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Easily one of the worst Best Picture Oscar winners


What an old-fashioned stinker. I was going to write an article listing either it or "Cimarron" as the worst film to ever win an Oscar (which is getting harder and harder to qualify, as so many recent Best Picture Oscar winners are such crap), but I watched them both and they were better than I remembered. But like "Wings," they are old-fashioned and suck. At least Cimarron has Richard Dix's surreal performance.

Critics with a limited knowledge of movies like to point to Cecil B. DeMille's "Greatest Show on Earth" as the weakest Best Picture Oscar winner, but "Calvacade" makes it seem like "Citizen Kane."
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Wings is a brilliant film; I don't know what you're talking about. I also really enjoy Cimarron. You especially have to place Cimarron within its proper historical context. Sound films were new then and the technology wasn't yet refined. The fact that they were able to shoot such an expansive film with limited sound technology is a feat unto itself. It also touches upon such hot-button issues of the time in a favorable light: such as women's rights (the female protagonist is elected to Congress at the end! and there is an inter-racial marriage).

I also did enjoy Cavalcade to some extent. Yes, it's a bit stuffy but in an historical context it gives us a look at attitudes of turn-of-the-century events from people who actually lived during the turn of the century. It was also an immensely popular play of the time. The film suffers from coming at a crossroads in motion picture history: 1933 is around the time that the early talkie period gives way to the Classical Hollywood era (notice that 1934 Best Picture winner of It Happened One Night is considered an absolute classic.)

I have seen all of the Best Picture winners and I don't believe any of them are "crap." They are all good films, many of them are of course undeserving of the prize Best Picture but in and of themselves they are not terrible. Most of them cannot withstand the limelight they're put in after the winning the prize and thus become horribly under-rated. If I hear one more person knock How Green Was My Valley...I swear!

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Do you really think this is worse than Titanic, Crash and Chicago? Seriously?

I actually thought this film was fabulous! Why is old fashioned bad? I can't understand that. Give one reason.

Sure it's not the best film of the year but when did that actually happen? Once? Twice? The winners have been far worse recently IMO.

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i thought cavalcade was rather boring and fairly incohesive. didnt like it much so I agree with you there...

disagree with the shots you take on Wings too. that is a really well done movie.

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I just saw this film against the advice of my neighbor who strongly dislikes it. IMO this film is unfairly maligned. I see this in the same "time capsule" mode as younger people will see "Forrest Gump" when they grow up. The characters are merely a reflection of the times and it's a bonus if you wind up caring about them. I wound up understanding how someone could wind up terrified of the very rapid change in the world from 1899-1933. It's no accident that the play uses a war as bookends.
That said, I believe the strengths of this film come from the performances of the "downstairs" family. Uma O'Connor is absolutely brilliant as the just-as-harried wife whose husband goes off to war and then struggles to be seen as an equal to the "upstairs" Diana Wynard when they become proprietors and later, a showbiz family. I was also drawn in by the fates of Wynard's sons and was surprised that both would wind up..well, I wont spoil it. I also enjoyed the period songs and the scene on the beach.

As an aside, there's also an odd homosexual shot of two men exchanging what appears to be a bracelet while sitting next to them is a stern-looking monocled woman with a cigarette holder during Fanny's post-war nightclub scene. Was this picked up on back in 1933 or didnt the audience just not care?

The weakness: It's hard to know who I'm supposed to sympathize with. Wynard's character says she's loving but it's hard to tell. She just worries a lot, so much so that about half of her performance is cross-eyed. I wound up liking the downstairs family but they are not the focus if the film. The younger son is a brat and grows up to be a brat. I felt the film would've been stronger if he had married Fanny and then see the class conflicts that would come into play as the film wound down. Coward's pedigree suggests I'm supposed to admire the upstairs folk but, by the end, Wynard's character has become a museum while her husband looks to the future. Ignore Wynard and you'll be just fine.
That said, this is NOT the worst Best Picture winner as many have claimed.
It is not incohesive or boring. It's a snapshot of the British turn of the century experience and what the movie focuses on has a lot to offer for discussion. I liked "Cavalcade" a whole lot better than "Chicago" and some others from recent years. Granted, younger kids will find it boring and insohesive but if you have an attention span and TCM is your kind of station, give this movie a chance.



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Was this picked up on back in 1933 or didn't the audience just not care?

In 1933 a lot of themes or situations in movies were considered ok until the Hayes Office put an end to it all. The time even has a name. The Pre-Code Era. Pre-marital sex,rape,prostitution,homosexuality,unmarried couples living together, and abortion all were common themes in pre-code movies with no problems until The Motion Picture Production Code was put in effect in 1934.The code was written in 1930 focusing on material that was inappropriate for the movies, but also contained a moral system that the movies could help to promote — specifically a system based on Catholic theology. It was written by Father Daniel Lord, a Jesuit priest and instructor at Saint Louis University on March 31, 1930. Bu the code was not enforced until 1934, a year after this film came out. TCM even has a boxset of Pre-Code movies you can buy where you see how directors had a free reign soon to come to an end. Mainly because of complaints by Churches, parents, theater owners and the government.

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mojo2004 - wow thanx for the history lesson,that was interesting to read,didnt know what

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It is truly HORRIBLE! How they managed to ruin a Noel Coward play AND to make it drag so is beyond me, as his stuff is known for it's brisk pace. High School productions could do better.

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I don't agree. I find this movie wonderful!

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In Which We Serve dragged and did not have a brisk pace and he directed it! When TCM airs it one night, try to sit through it without getting up or falling asleep. can't be done.

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No In Which We Serve was a much better film than this one.

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Agreed, In Which We Serve is a much better film. Plus, Noel Coward didnt direct, he wrote the screenplay. The director was David Lean.

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CAVALCADE surely has its weak moments. Of the modern winners, however, I choose
CRASH. What a piece of overrated, pretentious crap! One cliche after another.
After the ending(mercifully)where Sandra Bullock trips over her cell phone, I
half expected Hattie MacDaniel to enter and save the day!

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jpbarham formerly known as jpcadets is talking through his arse. Five years on and he is still not over it. He's been spitting his drivel for years now.
You can change the name but not the intention.

Cavalcade was certainly not the best of 33 and looks very dated now but I don't think there was any political agenda involved!

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typical ad hominem attack by the one who got his posting history wiped out several times. He is still repeating the same old drivel, it is like listening to an old record.
When he doesn't know what to say he calls you an anti-gay bigot.
Boy, you are some tool.

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Why is it that almost all the people who claim to like CRASH become trolls
the minute you ask their opinion of BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN? Is it just honest dislike
or fear they'll be labelled anti-Gay? I can understand the heterosexuals that
feel threatened by BM. But then there are the closeted Gays that see the Ennis
character coming too close to home. Their drivel is worse than the hetero kind
we've all had to listen to the last five years. The trolls liking of CRASH and
trying to sound so sincere when they think it fully deserved Best Picture should
stay away from the BM board...we're sick and tired of you. As for the Academy
boosters who think they must defend a bad BP choice, please do so on the CRASH
board. This way nobody sounds like a broken record.

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Why are all the people who like Crash considered trolls and anti-gay. You are contradicting yourself. My opinion on Brokeback Moutain is pretty good but you wouldn't know because YOU'VE NEVER ASKED!! At a loss for decent arguments and with your 'polical agenda' fetish you prefer throwing accusations and insults.


(Btw if you want to repeat your hollow slogans do so on the appropriate board!!!)

Anyway you don't have anything constructive to say and act like a blind, frustrated fanboy.

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I said that my opinion on BM is positive. I consider it a very good movie but (according to me) it drags in the first half. On the level of editing it could have been better. As far as acting, directing and cinematography, music are concerned it is excellent. That is my opinion and how I view it as a whole.


I do prefer 'Crash' but not because I'm an anti-gay troll!!! I'm also of the opinion that the vast majority of the acacademy members weren't anti-gay like Mr. Borgnine. Saying that it is all a hoax because of anti-gay sentiment is a bit moronic.
How many had a grudge against Haggis? How many were pushing for 'Munich'? We don't know?!! There were a lot of activists who were against Crash and the Dave Cullen website,...! Michael Jensen who tried to make Ebert say he was wrong and that there was an anti-gay movement. His interview with Ebert is testimony of this.
Is Ebert wrong by favouring 'Crash' above BM although he'd given both a perfect score?

If they would have chosen BM some would have claimed (wrongly) the Academy members were a racist bunch?!!

Are you a racist because you don't like 'CRash'? I would say:'NO'!

The fact that you called me an anti-gay troll is proof of your fanatism. I prefer a more civilized debate. If I want a mudfight I would call ClancyPants, mr. slander himself.

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Well Schamus may claim that but I'll nod when I see the facts and the actual contents of those mails/messages. He was also the one who claimed that BM had a neglectable budget whereas they were backed by two majors.

Yes, 'Driving Miss Daisy' got the award but so did 'Philadelphia' and PSH (deservedly) won the AA with his portrayal of Capote. According to the writer of BM it was only brilliant ham and mannerism. A lot of BM supporters echoed her words and repeated their 'political choice' accusations.
Fortunately he played a gay character AND he won most of the awards going into the Oscars so the anti-PSH messages where not as loud as the anti-Crash ones.

Although I'm pretty sure there are still racists among the Academy members as well as anti-gay trolls, it will never have such an influence tocompletely change the result. It was a really close competition and 'Crash' won. It could have been 'BM' or 'Capote' (to a lesser extent).

The supporters of BM see every move of the Academy as a kind of conspiracy against their favorite. Truth is that BM won a series of major awards so I don't think the majority of the Academy were thinking:'Oh no, I can't vote for BM, it is too dangerous, it will give the wrong signal,..' This is total bull because the ballots are anonymous.

Roger Ebert didn't really let all of this influence his opinion on either film. I don't think his wife would have approved :-)).

Remedial folly? Resurrecting Harvey Milk?

The only big surprise is that 'Crash' made by a truly independent company won against all odds.

I like 'Crash' and the way it was conceived. I preferred 'Capote' and a couple of others that weren't nominated. Coming into oscar night 'BM' was my third pick, very good movie with a great central performance and a somewhat underated 'supporting' role by J. Gyllenhaal. I has its place in history and no one can take that away.

Thanks Jp for the exchange, we may not have a similar view but I do respect your point of view and your furious way of defending your take on the matter
:-))
I wish you all the best and I'm sure we'll meet again on one of the boards!! Take care,

Pat Cronenberg

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So long man, I sense your pain!
We'll have to screen everyone who voted for 'Crash' and destroy every competition where it won awards.


You are fanatic in your defense but I remember the wise words of RonTrigger: once a Brokie always a Brokie!!



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I don't know about worst but this has to be the Most Boring best picture winner I have seen





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For the historian this movie is a rare find. It contains details of life then that could only have been reproduced by people who had lived through that era. For someone who knows a great deal about the British experience in that time it is heart-wrenching, and it is extremely revealing of the reasons why the world dealt with Hitler as it did and the issues we have all struggled with since that time. It is one of the anti-war movies of the early talkies era but also deals with the discordant social upheaval. Clearly, dignity, greatness, and peace aren't going to be the keywords of the future despite the toast by the older generation. I'm sure for those who were aware of world events, this movie was a warning of what was on the horizon. We saw references to the Lost Generation we know so well through F. Scott Fitzgerald, the human toll the war took for what?--for national pride and apparently little else with tragic consequences, the battling ideas about morality and the nature of modern warfare, and the kicking over of the traces of Victorian values by the young who were changed and sometimes destroyed by the new technologies as represented by the Titanic and later the war, and opportunities as represented by a nice girl singing in a nightclub and dating a nice boy of another class, as well as by the cruel and disillusioning experiences of the war. It is a movie about the future and the past--what the people had gone through and hints of what might lie ahead.

This isn't an Americanized version of British life, which is what makes it so special. It is a treasure and I feel privileged for the opportunity to see it in such good condition on TCM. I would have given it the Academy Award that year, too. It has an epic quality that in many ways seems very modern for so early in movie history. It didn't rush. It let us get a real feel for that time and people. That is an era I love and I wasn't bored in the least. I was glad the movie didn't hurry from one event to another. I would like to get a copy of this so I could watch it several times, especially to really take in the montages, and pause to sort out all the various voices clamoring for the public's attention in Britain in the postwar era.

Judging by the comments here I would suggest it isn't a movie for young people or those with no historical or British reference points. And if you ignore or don't understand the montages you will miss a good deal of the movie's message which is in no way happily ever after! They were already discussing the next war. The men and women who had gone through The Great War had a conviction that they were going to have to deal with war again, and it was a matter of how they would do that rather than if it happened. As this showed, in the time of empires, distant wars were a frequent fact of life, as they illustrated with the Boer War, but WWI with its gassing and trench warfare and bombing of Britain was terribly different. Yes, the older generation was old-fashioned next to the Jazz Age babies, but that's part of the point, too. While we tend to think our own time has seen the most upheaval, in reality it was theirs that went from the carriage age to the air age, from strict Victorian rules to working out new ways of relating and living, from limited war mostly against underwhelming odds--the relief of Mafeking was a foreshadowing of the change in the easy assumption of British success, to world war. There is SO MUCH in this movie it is impossible to take it all in during one viewing, if you have the background to understand it as the viewers in 1933 did.

I would suggest reading The Forsyte Saga for more insight into this same era--no, NOT seeing the remake of the series that removes all of what makes it noteworthy and turns it into just another costumer soap opera.

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The film is widely considered one of the worst best picture winners by many film historians. As for that being American thing I doubt you will find this film on any Best British list either. It has a 6.5 on IMDB.

It has nothing to do with not being able to appreciate the time period. I usually love historical films like this. The historical aspect is compelling but that doesn't make it a compelling film.

As for a great 1930's anti-war film I'll take All Quiet on the Western Front & Grand Illusion over this.

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I stumbled on this on TCM last night about 1/3 of the way through. OMG,it has to be the worst movie I have ever watched. I only struggled through to the end so I could find out the title and then I couldn't believe it won an Academy Award for best picture. Can't believe people actually paid money back in the 30's to watch something this bad.

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^ "The worst movie I have ever watched."

Jeez, you haven't seen many movies. It was no Godfather, but it was OK. I've seen all of the 1932-33 nominees and I would put Cavalcade third, behind I am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang and The Private Lives on Henry VIII. And as far as the worst Best Pic winner, it was better that The Broadway Melody, Cimarron, Ordinary People, Out of Africa, Million Dollar Baby.

mekrev, check this fine film http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060741/ out and see if Cavalcade is still that bad.



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