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Great movie, but be forewarned:


The Mask of Fu Manchu is a very enjoyable movie, with one exception.

The acting is great. The pacing and cinematography hold you at the edge of your seat. The special effects are very well done...

...and BOY is this movie racist.

Fu Manchu and his "race" of "yellow people" are depicted, by and large, as corrupt hedonists who despise the white race and want nothing more than to slay the white men and take their white women for their own. They practice human sacrifice, delight in torture, murder without a second thought, and pretty much do everything that 1930s Western society would consider immoral.

It's important to take the movie in context. Racism used to be almost completely pervasive, unlike our more enlightened times when it is socially shunned. It's amazing how far our society has come in just the short time since this movie was made.

If you can put up with the racism, The Mask of Fu Manchu is a very entertaining movie that I highly recommend. 8.5/10

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Looking at this from a modern viewpoint, the "good" guys aren't exactly all that good - stealing artifacts, which is becoming a huge issue. Many nations that we consider "developing" or "3rd world" that have had a long history are starting to want some of these artifacts back. Think about all the better known pieces in European and American museums - King Tut's sarcophagus, Code of Hammerabi, the Rosetta Stone, Venus di Milo, etc. Another thing that some museums are having to deal with, art stolen by Nazis that ended up in various museums or private collections.

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Well, the Venus de Milo was created in Ancient Greece, and Greece is a first-world country.



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"Racism used to be almost completely pervasive, unlike our more enlightened times when it is socially shunned"

If you really think that's true, I have a bridge to sell you. If anything, modern racism is as prevalent, just less conspicuous.

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"Racism used to be almost completely pervasive, unlike our more enlightened times when it is socially shunned"

"If you really think that's true, I have a bridge to sell you. If anything, modern racism is as prevalent, just less conspicuous."


He's right. Racism in the U.S. will never end as long men like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Barack Obama can profit from it.

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Hey Kev, kind of a racist yourself, huh?

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He's right. Racism in the U.S. will never end as long men like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Barack Obama can profit from it.

That clinches it. There is no board on imdb where I can escape from this kind of idiocy. Read a f-cking book.


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Here in the 21st Century, Americans are every bit as racist as they were in 1932, but their desire to conceal that racism led to their overturning Jim Crow and to turning a blind eye to interracial marriage and to electing more black politicians than ever before, including the first black President.

This pathetic desire to conceal their racism even led to their reelecting him four years later.

What a sick, vile, racist country.

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Saw this classic on TCM this week. Now I want ot see the series.

The "Yellow Peril" and fear of the hoards of China shine in this entertaining movie. Today Fu Manchu would be selling tainted toys and stealing 'Mer-can jobs.

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Heh heh heh.

I first saw this film over 30 years ago on campus at a student film festival. Most of the crowd enjoyed the "campiness" of the racist remarks (in both directions) and understood that although they were obviously already out of place in the 1970's, they were pretty standard for the time that the film was made, even if they were a bit "over the top" even for then (Sheila's "You yellow beast!" being more than matched by Fu's "You accursed white race!")

Still, there was a chilling moment when, at the climactic scene at the end, Fu Manchu utters the famous line: "KILL THE WHITE MAN...AND TAKE HIS WOMEN!" Just behind me, an African-American woman said in a cutting voice "KILL THE WOMEN TOO!".

That sort of reminded us that racial tension was not exactly over.

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I like how when the black woman talks about killing white women, it is "racial tension," but if a white woman would talk about killing black women it is "racISM." One brush; broad strokes people. Don't save the harsher words just for whitey, please.

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I still can't figure out why the fact that depicting the bad guy in this film as wanting to destroy the white race that this automatically means that it's racist toward all Asians.

If you use those same rules wouldn't any movie with Hitler as the bad guy become racist toward the German people? I've watched Irish in the movies being either drunks, priests and/or terrorists but I don't immediately think that the movie is automatically racist.

Why can't a psychotic bad guy and his minions just be this one psychotic guy and a few idiots with no lives and not always thought of as a swipe at the whole race?

And as for the "yellow devil" remarks...they suck. But then, Fu Manchu is the bad guy and they want to insult him....

Now I do understand why Asians are upset with movies that star Caucasians in make up (although Karloff is half East Indian which is on the continent of Asia so...). But isn't it throwing the baby out with the bathwater to ignore the films now? Not watching them won't get them re-cast.

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Don't insult the colored serial killers! The Bikini Killer in the 1970s wasn't all white. Maybe asian serial killers are better in not getting caught?



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"I still can`t figure out why the fact that depicting the bad guy in this film as wanting to destroy the white race that this automatically means that it`s racist towards all Asian".

Every single Asian character in this film was depicted as either a conniving evil bastard or a total moron (see the chef in the end).



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Hey, that "moron" was Willy Fung!

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The reason why this film is seen as racist towards Asians is not only because Fu Manchu is depicted as a fanatic who wants to destroy the white race. There are many elements in this film that suggest such racist and xenophobic sentiments. For instance, have you noticed that throughout the film Fu Manchu was never characterized as anything but an individual "from the East"? The costume and set design revolving around him also reveal a mixture of Asian elements - Chinese dragons, statues of Indian deities, the ninja-style fighting of Fu Manchu's assassins - that are not true to any particular Asian culture but to many. The gathering of different Asians at Fu Manchu's lair also shows that all Asians are typecast as one singular category instead of as peoples with unique cultures and beliefs. There is a lack of individuality that comes with the depiction of any Asian in this film and thus, it is obvious that Fu Manchu is portrayed as the leader of all Asians and not just some psycho who is acting on his own behalf.

I think whether a movie is racist comes down to not only the race of the antagonist, but many other elements. In Schindler's List, Hitler is depicted as the ultimate bad guy, but this movie is definitely not racist and does not stereotype all Germans. The protagonist Schindler is also a German and so are many other characters that are conflicted by Hitler's rules and show sympathy towards the Jewish. Unlike the Asians portrayed in the Mask of Fu Manchu, these German characters are treated as individuals with individualistic reactions towards the malignant doings of their leader.

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It's not the idea of an Asian villain that's problematic. What becomes dicey is the way they depict Fu Manchu. He is a complete distortion of countless eastern stereotypes mashed into one, and presented to the viewer practically painted on the face of an English actor. The problem comes not from the idea that there is an Asian character in a movie who does bad things, but that many of the things he does that are bad somehow relate to the fact that he's Asian.

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I had a history professor in college who, in each of his history classes that I took, made sure to devote time to making the point that it was specifically NOT a part of the class, and was completely unprofessional as a historian, to drag people from the past out of their dusty graves, stand them before us, and judge them and their actions by our modern values.

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Good assessment of the racism quotient in "The Mask of Fu Manchu". I just took it for what it was, a period piece that was a product of it's time. Although if I were Asian I think the film is just too over-the-top with the racial stereotypes to sit through without getting somewhat irked. But it's not just Asians that are wracked through the coals in this film, the Negro slave servants, the "Arab" hordes in attendance at Fu Manchu's self ordination ceremony. It's just unbelievable how badly entrenched the stereotypes were in Hollywood cinema.

But, if you can get past all that, "The Mask of Fu Manchu" is kind of a fun pulp adventure!







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This movie impressed me as an attack on Hitler.The scenes where Fu Manchu harranges his followers, the implied "master race" argument he uses,seemed to be reminescent of Adolf,even though he was not yet in power.

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Late in his life, at the height of the 1960's social revolution, Karloff was asked about the racist overtones in this film. He reportedly grimaced and spat out something to the effect of "It was a movie. Fiction!!" and had nothing more to say. I agree with the master.

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Fiction or not, it is a hell of a great show!

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"But, if you can get past all that" is probably one of the best things I've read on here. It's great that you acknowledge the extent to which racist Orientalist imagery permeated the film industry (something that has hardly ceased to occur in today's world), but the number of stereotypes portrayed in "The Mask of Fu Manchu" hardly dilutes the negativity of each individual case. Sure, it's laughable to view the absurdity in a 21st century lens, but you have to realize that films like this set a precedent for Hollywood that has continued to operate well past the 1930s. From the coolie hat-adorned laborers who worship the tomb of Genghis Khan to the "frightening" visual of a Buddha statue outside Fu Manchu's lair (take a moment to let that representation sink in), this film is a handbook on how to Other the Asian. You don't have to be Asian to realize that you can't get past all that.

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"... this film is a handbook on how to Other the Asian. You don't have to be Asian to realize that you can't get past all that." FlawAndDisorder


Lol, yeah it is pretty bad.

Off topic it is amazing how synchronicity works as I had just discovered THE FIENDISH PLOT OF DR. FU MANCHU. I have not watched it yet but apparently this is a comedy film starring the very non-Asian actor Peter Sellers in the title role.

The Peter Sellers movie was made during the seventies but you can't help but wonder if it were made today would there be much difference in the approach to the material. My guess would be not by much.

Yes, Hollywood has a long way to go.







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Racism used to be almost completely pervasive, unlike our more enlightened times when it is socially shunned.
Racism used to be completely acceptable, unlike our more enlightened times when it is publicly shunned (yet privately and widely practiced). I believe that's more accurate ;-)

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I agree with the others that say that we haven't really come that far in terms of racism, or really any other basic evils that are associated with the human race. I believe that we are led and encouraged to PERCIEVE that we've come a long way in those regards and to try and note that -- at least publicly -- it's very uncouth, but remember -- many of the generation that saw and lived in a time when legislated racism was normal and acceptable during Segregation, and those that saw and were upset with the the Civil Rights Era are still alive. And they had children, some of which were undoubtedly raised in bigoted households; and think, if that's the case, how their kids in turn were/are raised. To say that we're past it is a nice idea, but a bit of a fantasy. We still have much, much further to go, I'm afraid.

But then again, I'm a pessimist by nature.

EDIT: Also, keep in mind that even when 'Birth of a Nation' was made, many criticized it for its racist overtones, to the point that Griffith made 'Intolerance' as a statement against racism. So it's not like people living in the early-20th Century had not the slightest notion that racism was bad. They did.

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What we presently lack is COMMUNITY. A place to call our own. If we had that, we would have standards that members would be expected to observe. We also would soon find that our levels of tolerance for our own folk are greater than we expected. If there were certain groups we didn't care to associate with, we wouldn't have to, nor them with us. In time we'd realize that everyone has something to contribute.

Now we are isolated targets scattered about the landscape, easy pickings for our enemies. In a real community, no group would stand out apart from the rest, and we all would have each others backs against outsiders. Teachers, doctors, engineers, businessmen, tradesmen, white collar, blue collar, all pulling together for the benefit of all.

Pie-in-the-sky idealism? No, there was a society working on achieving exactly that when certain people decided they couldn't EVER be allowed to succeed. Class must be pitted against class and a man must be defined by money alone. That is the law of our present masters.

Let's not play into their hands by pointing fingers at our racially aware fellow Whites who may not conform to our preferred style. If they want to label that as bigoted and racist then so be it. The lion cares not what the sheep think of him.

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