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How was Yancey viewed when this was released?


Just saw this, and at first I couldn't take the character of Yancey seriously, but as the movie progressed I found myself actively disliking him. "Hubris" is obviously not in his internal dictionary, the way he treats his wife was shameful, etc. I kept expecting/hoping he'd get some sort of "come-uppance" but alas, no. This makes me suspect that he was supposed to be taken seriously/liked.

Obviously, 70 years later our social standards are different, but still...

Any thoughts?

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Yancey bothered you but not the character Isaiah???

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He was meant to be a bigger-than-life character from the start.

The social standards for the flim (Isaiah aside) are actually pretty advanced I think for the time period. Keeping in mind that this film was released less than 20 years before women got the right to vote, Irene Dunn's character is strong, fierce, and resilient. Also, interracial marriage between the son and an Indian girl I think is also fairly ahead of its time.

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CIMARRON was released in 1931, which is approximately a decade AFTER the passage of the 19th Amendment in the US, which prohibited laws that restricted voting on the basis of sex.

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I suspect that the film was exposing the ability of women being able to "do it" if you catch my meaning. Like a kind of precursor to the era we think of as the major part of the modern woman's movement. Keep in mind, huge movements like that don't just crop up over night. When your dealing with huge amounts of people, you have to deal with them the way a cargo ship takes a u-turn, very gradually.

I suspect that Eleanor Roosevelt may have loved this movie??? And perhaps Hillary Clinton???

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No one who was responsible for this film gave a rats rearend about whether or not women could vote!

The movie was all about how it is good to be an idealist, and how bad it is to be a serious, resolute, and dedicated business person. Even Sabra, after she builds the newspaper into a great and successful venture, cares only for her lost husband, and the time she has missed with her son and his family.

Oddly enough (he said with tongue firmly planted in cheek), the movie I am now watching, “The Solid Gold Cadillac” is even more pointedly about how being in business is bad, and decidedly means you are a crook, but being a ditsy blond (idealist) is the pinnacle of life’s highest achievement!

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Based upon the rest, why would you think it even a bit strange that inter-racial marriage would be lauded? In the message of the movie, and its time period, her son should have married a Chinese woman!




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I grew to dislike Yancey over the course of the film. I thought he was sanctimonious, pompous, hypocritical, and generally quite irritating.

When Yancey walked down the street proudly displaying his oversized, symbollic white hat, I agreed with Lon Yountis that the man was being an ass about how upright and virtuous he was. And I know that I'm not the only one who was happy to see it shot into the dirt.

All throughout the film, we're shown that Yancey is a tolerant and forward thinking man. He fights for Native American rights and is delighted when his son becomes engaged to a chief's daughter. Furthermore, he defends the Jewish salesman from the town bullies and makes a note to include him into the multi-denominational church. (All of which is quite awesome, honestly.) However, his good intentions come across as insincere when he lies to Isaiah in order to the town's sole black man from attending church. Telling the racial caricature a lie which a five year old wouldn't fall for, he convinces poor Isaiah that he's needed back at the house on guard duty and excludes him from the church service. If he really meant what he preached, that should include Isaiah as well.

And then there is his complete lack of consideration for his wife. He thinks nothing of making her look small at every turn and, likewise, thinks nothing about abandoning her for years on end. When he returns, she's supposed to be at the front door waiting like a faithful family pet.

He's just an all around unlikeable guy. In the end, when he died, I couldn't bring myself to feel any pity for him. If he'd been a real person, there would have been some compassion, but with the understanding that he's a fictional character, I felt nothing for him. The Kid, I felt sorry for. Isaiah, I felt sorry for. Yancey, I felt nothing for.

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Telling the racial caricature a lie which a five year old wouldn't fall for, he convinces poor Isaiah that he's needed back at the house on guard duty and excludes him from the church service. If he really meant what he preached, that should include Isaiah as well.
Note that he also gave the kid a (presumably loaded) revolver, which was a significant act of trust.

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From the NY Times review when it was first released in Jan. 1931:

A graphic and engrossing screen conception of Edna Ferber's widely read novel, "Cimarron," was presented by Radio Pictures last night at the Globe before a keenly interested audience. In it Richard Dix plays that unique character, Yancey Cravat, poet, pistoleer, lawyer and editor, the man who is periodically attacked with the wanderlust....

Although it is episodical, it holds one's attention and Mr. Dix gives a fine impersonation of Cravat. Cravat's nonchalance and his impulsiveness may seem more than a trifle strange at times, but he is nevertheless a person to be remembered. He is consistently inconsistent. His sangfroid is remarkable, but he goes on until he comes to a tragic end.

From the first to the last scene one is often stirred by this chronicle. It has its subtleties and it has been most intelligently directed by Wesley Ruggles. ... There is the indomitable Sabra, Cravat's sterling wife, who sticks to the newspaper that he starts in the early days to the last. No matter how gallant Cravat may be during certain interludes, it is invariably his wife who enlists one's sympathy.

Imagine a husband who has deserted his wife and children to go to the Cherokee strip, returning five years later and asking his wife whether she missed him! And what's more, he discovers at the moment of his return that the notorious Dixie Lee, who tricked him in the first land rush, is on trial for her wayward conduct in Osage Sabra, like other women, is eager to have Dixie put in prison, but Cravat hastens to the court and offers Dixie his services as counsel and finally wins an acquittal for her.

In a previous episode, Cravat is asked to read the church services. There is no place of worship, so the biggest building in the community is sought. It is a gambling hall, with grotesque pictures on the wall. Lon Yountis, who is responsible for the death of the first editor who came to the territory, is at the service, and Cravat seizes that occasion to denounce the murderer. Quick as a flash the repellent Yountis pulls the trigger of his pistol, but like Wild Bill Hickok's victims, he is not quick enough, for Cravat ducks behind the table and then sends a bullet through Yountis's heart.

Cravat has other encounters, where it appears almost as though he alone fights a whole band of desperadoes. And when he kills the Kid, who had been his companion on other jaunts, he regrets that he had to do it.

There are moments when one may feel that Mr. Ruggles banks too much on Cravat's unerring aim, but it is pardonable license and last night's gathering was never quite sure whether Cravat would lay his man low or himself meet an untimely end. He is winged in one encounter, which is rather clever, for in spite of Cravat's charmed life, until a closing scene, one feels that after all he might be a target for some desperado's weapon.

... In the course of this lengthy film Cravat reveals his tolerance, not only in the case of Dixie Lee, but also when his son becomes enamored of an Indian girl. His editorial in favor of the redskin, which was frowned upon at first by his wife, is eventually reprinted every anniversary of its appearance, and when Cravat is away for several years, his name still stands at the masthead of The Wigwam.

In harking back over this picture one is tempted to describe one of the sequences and then revert to Yancey Cravat, for some further deed of his that escaped the mind for the moment is remembered. And toward the close of the picture the spectator will in all probability find himself waiting to catch the last glimpse of Cravat, gray, wrinkled and aged, the victim of an accident.
Irene Dunne is excellent as Sabra...

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=9A03E6D8173AEE3ABC4F51DFB766838A629EDE

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"Why do people always laugh in the wrong places?"
--Sabra Cravat

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I agree; Mr. Dix plays Yancy Cravat as written by Ms. Ferber. I much prefer his performance over Glenn Ford's performance as Yancy Cravat in the 1960 remake of "Cimarron". Richard Dix had a substantial film career which began in the silent film era and ended post-World War II, and his films are well worth seeking out.

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"There's a difference between giving a "hammy" performance and giving an excellent performance of a "hammy" personality."

Excellent observation. Thank you for your fine post.

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Had they read the novel the film is based on they would realize that Dix's performance is exactly as the character is written in the book.

I've read the novel and I agree completely. Richard Dix did play the character exactly as written in the book. Also of note is that Edna Ferber based Yancey Cravat on real-life gunfighter and lawyer Temple Houston:

http://www.texasescapes.com/TexasPersonalities/TempleLeaHouston/Temple LeaHouston.htm

As with Show Boat Ferber had a knack for writting novels about strong-willed heroines who married less-than-heroic men.

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