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Griping about the musical numbers in the MGM era


I am new to the Marx Brothers movies, and I'm loving them! But I have a question.

I've read several people and critics griping about the musical numbers in the MGM movies. And perhaps I'm missing something, but both Animal Crackers and Cocoanuts also had musical numbers. Cocoanuts even had a Busby Berkely-ish dance number, so what is it about the MGM musical numbers that people are griping about? So far the only MGM one I've seen is Opera, and I like the music in that better than the music in AC and Cocoa. Except of course for when the brothers themselves are performing.


Let me say that so far I do prefer the Paramount zaniness to the more polished MGM movies. Who needs a plot when you've got Groucho, Chico, and Harpo?

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The difference I see is that the first two Paramount comedies were based on hit Broadway musicals, so it makes sense to include the music numbers, which really are an essential part of the overall work. The Marxes were musical comedy stars, of course, so it makes sense that they should continue to make use of that format in "Horse Feathers" and "Duck Soup" ("Monkey Business" is unique in not having any real music numbers, aside from the piano and harp solos).

The difference becomes very noticeable with the MGM films. "A Night at the Opera" makes extensive use of operatic numbers, although I personally think the other songs are fine. "A Day at the Races" is the one that gets really bogged down with the protracted "Water Carnival" sequence. Again, I like the other songs in the film, although it could be argued they detract from the overall pacing and framework of the comedy.

For me, it's the later films where the music numbers became obligatory song-plugging outlets rather than anything meaningful to the comedy. Of course, eliminating the songs completely would have meant no "Lydia the Tattooed Lady", which rivals "Hooray for Captain Spalding" as the most memorable Groucho tune. I can live with the songs in "At the Circus" and "Go West", but several numbers in "The Big Store" (especially the protracted "Tenement Symphony") really are carrying things too far.

I'd say anyone who gets bored with the musical comedy framework of the Marx Bros. pictures doesn't quite understand the show business background they were coming out of. I'm certainly sympathetic to viewers who don't care for some of the longer, more over-produced numbers found in the later MGM films, though.

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Song plugging was big business in the early talkies and the song selected for plugging was repeated endlessly. In The Cocoanuts, the song was When My Dreams Come True, not one of Irving Berlin's more memorable tunes. It was even played as a very dull and otherwise pointless clarinet solo by Harpo. Berlin had written Always for the show but Kaufman turned it down. (We all make mistakes.) The most annoying playing a song to death was in the Goldwyn Follies of 1938 in which Kenny Baker sang a great Gershwin song, Love Walked Right in, until you never wanted to hear it again. There was another movie where the hero (Dick Powell?) sang I'll String along with You until you wanted to tie the string around his neck and pull. Hurray for Captain Spaulding did not get that much repetition.

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