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SEE! One of the WORST perfomances in screen history!


I refer of course to Jimmie Eagles as the young deserter, whom Lincoln pardons as "a leg case."

Eagles' is one of the most embarassingly bad performances ever captured on film. He performance is so painfully wooden, he is so obviously reading his lines, and he makes no attempt at all to "act" in anything but the most theatrically artificial manner that even in an era of so-called "bad" silent movie acting, his performance -or lack thereof- stands out as jaw-droppingly bad.

I would put Eagles on a par with the unidentified child actor playing Mary in the 1931 Dr. Jekyll & Mr Hyde, who injects the only blot in an otherwise flawless film classic.

He also rank just behind the supremely wooden performance of Mary Philbin in the Chaney Phantom of the Opera -a performance remarked on at the time as being 'old-fashioned' and 'artificial.'



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Yep.... Have to agree... between that guy & the lady that played Abe's first love, there was enough bad acting in this film for 3 movies. but the funny thing is, in spite of all of that, I really enjoyed this film.

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Swan

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I think the wooden acting is really a product of the acting style of the day and the directions that the actors got. If you saw Una Merkel (the lady that played Abe's first love) in anything a year or two later, you would have seen a whole different actor. It's amazing how acting styles changed so quickly. By 1931-32 most of the wooden acting that you saw in the first talkies are pretty much gone. Thank goodness.

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You are referring to Una Merkel--a big star! I thought she was terrific! I am guessing here, but wonder if the idea was to contrast her bubbly performance as Ann Rutledge with the persona of Mary Todd Lincoln, later in Lincoln's life...the depression she suffered? And then, after he was assassinated, a man (who had always hated Mary Todd) released information to the effect Lincoln always mourned Rutledge and losing her, loving her throughout his marriage to Mary Todd. So they needed to make a stark contrast between the women, making Ann someone Lincoln could have loved and missed ever after.

I'd always seen Una Merkel's name, but never seen any of her movies. She was fabulous--so cute. I see why she was so popular! Things were awful back then: WWI, Spanish Flu epidemic, Stock Market Crash in 1929, and then the Great Depression. Movies were the big escape, and that giggling and cheery demeanor must have been a welcome relief. Tickled me!

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It's the acting style of the time. The exaggerated style of the early talkies was a carry over from the silents and stage acting.

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Yeah, he was bad. However, I would rank Mad-Eyed Mary from the Jekyll film slightly ahead of him in a bad-acting contest. That's partly because the dialogue he was given to read was pretty poor in its own right ("No, no, sir. Not alive.").

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I'm glad you mentioned that particular line. It perfectly summarized everything that was bad about Eagles' 'performance.'

Why exactly did he say it? Taken in print, out of context, one might naturally assume that he was responding to something Lincoln had said.

Hearing (and seeing it) spoken in the film, however, one is presented with a painfully static wide shot and Eagles blankly reciting his radio-drama lines like a dull-witted schoolboy declaiming from some presumably off-screen blackboard.

As he recites, he never once looks at Lincoln and similarly, Lincoln never moves a muscle.

Consequently, when Eagles gets to the floridly purple prose about his "boyhood chum," neither character interacts with the other and so it is all the more jarring when the deserter 'reacts' and 'responds' to a question which has neither been asked or implied.

It's a truly painful scene to watch, not just because the so-called performance is so astonishingly bad (even for the period) but because what could have been an especially powerful scene is gutted and left impotent.

A similarly poor script (worse, even, in some respects) is that of Dracula which would come out the following year. It started life as a very poorly-written stage play and watered down even further for its screen adaptation. However, we are given the rare opportunity, through the two simultaneous versions filmed -the English- and Spanish-language casts- to see how good acting can elevate even a poor script.

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Acting back in the early days of the talkies is much different then it is now. A lot of the actors come right from the stage so they look overly exaggerated. The writing has a lot to do with the acting too. They write like they were writing for the stage. I would not call it bad acting, but different. Walter Houston one of the best actor ever even looks stilted, but after a few films he was much better.

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I must disagree to an extent.

Houston's performance in this film does indeed come across as a bit artificial, but at the same time, the script makes the character out to be something of a plaster saint, so there really wasn't much room for Houston's talent as an actor to show.

Despite this, I still feel as though it is one of the more "human" portrayals of Lincoln. I especially liked the business of Lincoln walking barefoot at midnight in the White House; kicking back on an upturned chair to take a nap and even the almost simple-minded expression of delight he takes in the play just before he is shot.

Notice also the scene with General Lee. A devastatingly heartfelt performance. Certainly the single best scene in the film. The old man's desolation, grief and agony are heart-rending.

And then you get Eagles' and his "No, no, sir. Not alive."

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