MovieChat Forums > Un chien andalou (1929) Discussion > Surrealism = stupid.

Surrealism = stupid.

posted 18 years ago by killerlamb
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Want to see a good "shock" film. Try "Freddie Got Fingered", it's actually more simular than you would think...except, instead of lamely splicing scenes together in an obvious way that only fools idiots. (The Pseudo-Artistic below average intellect people who are so stupid that they think they're smart), he actually touches the cow's penis and the movie actually does work on a comedic level. (ESPECIALLY if you watch it with old people!)

This movie was stupid and had no purpose.

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[–] sunformiles 18 years ago

Freddie Got Fingered is a movie made for fifteen-year-old boys.
That's why he touches an animal's penis, and humps people, and does other stupid Tom Green stuff.
Please, don't regard Freddie Got Fingered as a "shock film," because you obviously don't know anything about cinema, shock, or surrealism.

[–] Cyrus420 18 years ago

When I first read the topic title, I kinda figured out that what kind of message this post would be. And when he mentionned the movie "Freddie Got Fingered", I knew I was right: useless.

[–] Wickidforreal 13 years ago

Well actually, you're wrong, Freddy Got Fingered is a shock film. It shocked me when I watched it; and I am shocked by nothing, usually.

At the time of its release, society was still somewhat 'innocent' compared to how it is now, due to the majority of people still not having Internet access, or if they did have internet access they weren't that clued up on it. Therefore the kind of images and content FGF contained were very capable of shocking the majority of people. Wanking off a horse, wearing the skin of roadkill and rolling around in it on a highway... Beating a disabled person... The list goes on. It was shocking. It could be argued that it dated quickly, as there are more shocking things that can be seen now (One Man, One Jar), but that doesn't mean it wasn't a shock film.

[–] flyingkandykid 18 years ago

Surrealism has no purpose, thats the point!! (And so does Buñuel said it in many interviews, only in the last edition of the screenplay he kind of accepts that he was trying to envelope the filling that you have when you want to kill somebody.. by the way, that comment is surrealistic too) Is only images of the subco. And it funny, because many of the Surrealism circle where before part of de Dadaist circle, that, as you said, where pseudo artistic (actually, they where not, they where anti-artistic, and thats another different story)

By the way...
Who the hell are you to say that something is stupid just because you are not in to it??

[–] prohias 18 years ago

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[–] ssrolo 18 years ago

Freddy Got Fingered is better than this.

Freddy Got Fingered doesn't get thes respect it deserves because Tom Green is an MTV person or whatever. GO Tom Green, wooooo.

[–] lomachrome 18 years ago

Freddy Got Fingered gets exactly the respect it deserves. Low-class acceptance for a juvinile and awful movie.

This film wasn't a "shock" movie. It was surreal. The point behind surrealism is to juxtapose the real with the unreal to create a desired effect. Experimental film making, dear. You have no idea where the film industry would be if it weren't for the first experimental film makers.

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[–] c_aur 17 years ago

Wow! That was in really bad taste. People who do the spelling/grammar thing on a message board are really irritating. Is this considered a formal document in any way? As far as usage of a term like "fag"? I would imagine I'm not the only one embarrassed for you.

[–] Pinguine 17 years ago

I think calling Un Chien Andalou a "bad" film is an uneducated argument; saying you didn't like it is completely legitimate. Un Chien is obviously not a Hollywood narrative, which is what most moviegoers are used to seeing. Surrealism was a legitimate artistic movement and the filmic medium was a particularly appropriate realm for the Surrealists to express their style. Hollywood narrative film, like "Freddy Got Fingered," is a completely different arena, and comparing the two, while offering a potentially interesting contrast, probably isn't the best of juxtapositions.

That having been said, it's perfectly fine to dislike Un Chien but enjoy Freddy. Just recognize that they are two very different works that used very different techniques to accomplish two very different things. And, at the very least, Un Chien evoked a strong enough response for this person to go and bother making a post on a website about it. I think that in itself proves Un Chien did accomplish what it set out to do, and in my opinion, that makes it a good film.

[–] Scottie_Burnham 17 years ago

Thank you for a dignified response, some people are just so ridiculous when they don't like or understand a film.

You have no idea what I'm talking about, I'm sure. But don't worry... you will someday.

[–] killerlamb 17 years ago

You're such a fagit.

Anyways, here's my response to everything in this thread:

Anti-art is just a euphemism for art that's too *beep* to be art, so it's "anachronistic", because most art just copies what's popular. The only true anti-artists are the ones who start a fad. Salvador Dali and surrealism doesn't count because it's a rip off of dadaism.

If you think this movie wasn't to offend at all, you obviously know nothing about Dali. Read more, look more, see more, then post a cromulent response.

Why do I need to give you a dignified response, *beep* face? You didn't even watch Freddy got Fingered, yet you condemn it to the level of cinema as such films like: "Tomcats" and "American Pie". It's actually an extremely original film, that if you broke out of your little bubbles of conventionality, you would see the brilliance of. Many people didn't understand the "beauty" of this film because of it's time. (See above).
You're ironically doing the exact same thing to Freddy got Fingered.

What I'm trying to say is quite simple: Art fags, you're all hypocritical *beep* heads.

[–] Pinguine 17 years ago

I disagree. I never condemned any film to any level. In fact, I think American Pie is actually a very solid piece of cinematic work. If you thought it was bad, argue with the box office. I have no doubts that "Freddy" also sold a few movie tickets, just don't forget that popular response doesn't have to be the only reason something has any sort of merit.

I think it's simultaneously accurate and absurd to accuse any artistic movement of "ripping off" a previous artistic movement. In case you didn't notice, Freddy Got Fingered is a complete "ripoff" of slapstick comedy, sex-related humor, and possibly social commentary (oho!) which was around long before you or I. Dadaism is a "ripoff" of something else. You can either call it "ripping off" or "being influenced."

When you somehow raise a child in a complete bubble and then present his completely original ideas to the world, then you'll be able to present the first idea that had no influence from someone else. And chances are, someone probably still thought of it first.

I don't really see what bubble of conventionality you're referring to, but maybe you should hop out of your own bubble instead of calling people hypocrites without founded argument.

So what, dislike a film. Like a film. I don't see what you're so wound up about. God forbid people form opinions of something!

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[–] nick-callis 17 years ago

This movie was made in the late 1920's. Obviously American cinema was not as developed then but the ideas were much more creative than an immature man who has sexual issues. Have you even honestly watched the whole thing of "Un chien Andalou" or any other Dali film. He was the CREATOR of this genre. You can't say the person who made it up knows nothing about the subject when h is the one who invented it.

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[–] strawlaneproductions 17 years ago

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[–] juza 17 years ago

The cow's penis? A transexual cow?