Where Are They Now?


I thoroughly enjoyed this ancient film, finding it neither racist nor melodramatic (both of which it has been accused of.) There is one thing that does puzzle me. Many of the actors who were in this film seem to have vanished from the face of the Earth after they appeared in it.* I am speaking in particular about Victoria Spivey, a vibrant, quite beautiful and sensual actress who played Daniel Haynes' spurned fiancee.

If anybody has any information about what happened to this woman, I would greatly appreciate hearing about it. You may contact me directly at
[email protected].

My thanks in advance.




*At least, according to the IMDB database.

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I remember reading somewhere that Harry Jackson, who played Pops, was a former slave who made his film debut in this movie at the age of 86.

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Excuse me, I meant Harry Gray, who played the Parson.

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Exactly, the guy who played the Dad was an 86 year old former slave. He was dicovered in New York City working at a newspaper.

Everett McGarrity (Spunk) was discovered in Chicago.

Fanny Belle DeKnight (Mammy) was discovered in New York City where she was a veteran on black theatre.

The Dixie Jubilee singers were Fisk University students.

Nina Mae McKinney in real life was a tragic Mulatto.

King Vidor travelled to different cities across the US searching for talent for the film.

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i found the production/presentation racist.

what is it Robert Townsend said, making fun of "negro screen dialect": "Buts Petunia, Mezzanine sez to me that youse owes huh a qwawtah..." lol

i found the actual performances to somehow rise above the production values. most ABC films are that way, imo. in fact, i can't think of one that isn't.

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Loudspeakin' Papa,
You better speak easy to me.

--Ethel Waters, 1929

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The film was made in 1929 long before Civil Rights and polictical correctness.

It was also not to long after the truly racist Birth of a Nation.

Its a miracle the racist studio even produced it.

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According to the IMBD bio, she passed away in 1976, before her 70th birthday.

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I remember writing to you a while ago about Rita Christiani, who played the part of "Ice Cold Katie" in the musical number of the same name in the film "Thank Your Lucky Stars."

I recently finished a mammoth article on filmmaker Maya Deren, who used Christiani in two of her films. I tried to get an interview with Ms. Christiani but was informed by a reliable source that she was suffering from Alzheimer's and dementia. As of this writing, I am not sure if this captivating, beautiful woman is still alive.

I got some sketchy information about Rita Christiani from doing research on Maya Deren (who passed away in 1961.) I would greatly appreciate any information about Ms. Christiani's life, as she has been sitting near my heart since I first saw "Thank Your Lucky Stars" on TV in 1964.

My email:

[email protected]

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Daniel L. Haynes was discovered understudying in SHOWBOAT on Broadway. He played two or three roles in the original production and a revival of THE GREEN PASTURES on Broadway. He may have made a few recordings, but I haven't been able to track them down.
And Victoria Spivey had a long career as a blues singer; she and her husband were vaudeville team and I think they also appeared together in the stage version of HELLZAPOPPIN. In the 60's she ran her own blues record company for a while.

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What an incredibly fine-looking figure of a man Daniel Haynes was.

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Victoria Spivey was primarily famous for her blues singing. She began recording when she was about 17 in 1926 & wrote such seminal blues songs as The Black Snake Blues & T. B. Blues, covered by Blind Lemon Jefferson & Leadbelly respectively. She did duets with arguably the 1st genius of the acoustic guitar Lonnie Johnson. She was the cat's meow. I strongly urge people to seek out her recordings. Bob Dylan did his first recording accompanying her. I stumbled across her music in the early 1990's & have since become a really big fan. I also play a number of her songs. Although in popular recognition she is often overshadowed by Bessie Smith, Ethel Waters & Ma Rainey, Spivey was no second fiddle & her sexily insinuating voice comes across really well even today.
Here is a page that has a lot of Spivey's early recordings for free, in RAM format.

http://www.redhotjazz.com/spivey.html

Altho' many of the records are in poor condition you'll find some real knock-outs here . . . check out her 'Dope Head Blues' with Lonnie johnson on guitar, a classic. There are also several that are in the racy vein like the two part 'Toothache Blues' & the 'New Black Snake Blues Pt. 1-2'

'In my path lay a black snake
'bout eight or nine inches
hear my screamin'
man, I ain't dreaming'

She also recorded with such luminaries as Louie Armstrong, Tampa Red & Georgia Tom & King Oliver.
Also, check her out as an older but still fiery & sexy lady from this 1960s version of 'T.B. Blues' on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56femgj90E&feature=related

I just purchased 'Hallelujah' this evening after having heard about it for years. Can't wait to watch it.

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i found the production/presentation racist.

what is it Robert Townsend said, making fun of "negro screen dialect": "Buts Petunia, Mezzanine sez to me that youse owes huh a qwawtah..." lol

But almost every famous Black entertainer today with a few exceptions has embraced this type of presentation. Putting every negative stereotype in their films.shows and music. The women all come off as sexcrazy (Beyonce/Janet)or whores and skanks in videos. The men being presented as pimps or being pimp-like is still being done. Watch "Boondocks" or anything by the Wayans or Ice Cube. Catch the shows dome by the Black comedians male & female. We know the reason it happened back then. Why is it still being done now?


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Precisely.

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Victoria Spivey had a long and successful career as a blues singer. She co-owned Spivey Records, on which Bob Dylan made an early appearance as a session harmonica player and singer on the album _Three Kings And The Queen_ (Roosevelt Sykes, Big Joe Williams, Lonnie Johnson, and Victoria Spivey).

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