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does anybody have a problem that Vidors depiction of the deep South, is completely devoid of white people.
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No because the point of the film was not focused on the White South.
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Due to Jim Crow laws of the day, Blacks and whites could not be appear in films together where black people seemed to live normal lives. Blacks did appear in films alongside whites, usually in subservient roles. This was done to appease white southerners, who would have taken offense otherwise. This film was an attempt by King Vidor to romanticize, even "normalize" black culture and family life. I would as your question this in this way: "does anyone have a problem that most films of this era were completely devoid of Black people?"
shareI would as your question this in this way: "does anyone have a problem that most films of this era were completely devoid of Black people?"
A much better question.
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Now, here's an example of stereotyping. Blacks were not relegated to such roles to appease only "white southerners." Bigotry was (and sadly, still seems to be) rampant in all areas of the US. I can't tell you how many Midwesterners and Pennsylvania residents I've heard use the N word (I hate that word like poison...).
Open your eyes and ears. Bigotry is not limited to the south. Projectionists in the North cut scenes they found "questionable", including the footage of the great Bill "Bojangles" Robinson holding hands with little white Shirley Temple, as well as depictions of black people kissing and behaving sexually.
Racism can never be successfully dealt with until people realize that it's not a mere regional problem. It's freakin' *everywhere*, sadly. And frankly, I prefer a person who admits up front that they're bigoted to a hypocrite who says, "I'm not bigoted, but I wouldn't want my sister to date one of them," like a black man is some sort of lesser being.
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Due to Jim Crow laws of the day, Blacks and whites could not be appear in films together where black people seemed to live normal lives. Blacks did appear in films alongside whites, usually in subservient roles. This was done to appease white southerners, who would have taken offense otherwise. This film was an attempt by King Vidor to romanticize, even "normalize" black culture and family life. I would as your question this in this way: "does anyone have a problem that most films of this era were completely devoid of Black people?"
shareActually, white people do appear indirectly. In an early scene, everyone is sitting around the table in the yard eating dinner. Suddenly, the dogs start barking and everybody scatters. The paterfamilias comes out on the front steps with a gun, and this is the only, indirect, reference to the presence of random violence and its perpetrators. I was glad to see the old man had a gun!
shareI wonder how many American movies released in 1929 didn't have any black people? I don't think HEARTS IN DIXIE had any whites,either. So maybe two out of oh, 400 movies released in '29 didn't have any whites? Lawd, hab moicy!
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A long tima ago I donated a VHS copy of this movie and many other early black movies to the South Dallas Cultural Center. The director, at that time, was scheduled to teach a class of teenagers about early black movies and had only a copy of Spike Lee's first movie.
Anyway, I read several books on the subject that King Vidor argued for a long time with Fox Studios about making this movie. He got it made by using his own money as a guarantee against financial losses. He also shot it on location in the south.
The result was he was lamblasted from both sides by white and black so called leaders. No good deed shall go unpunished.
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I played semi-pro basketball in NYC in places where there were not a lot of whites. We would go out afterwards for a few beers and laughs.
I moved to Dallas and played at rec centers. There were several blacks who did not want to play with a white guy. They would choose up teams and pick some guy with half my ability. A racist white guy will choose a black if he feels he will help him.
Blacks are extremely racist. If the blacks captured Africa, we would still be slaves. My forefathers gave their lives in a war that when it ended the black were free. Does anyone mention that?
Quit living in the past. If a black guy wants to change his position in life, get educated and get a job, work hard and honest and you will succeed.
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