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How does this change your view on others?


I just watched this last night and I'm embarrassed that this one slipped through the cracks for so long. If not for reading about it on the Sight and Sound list, I'd probably never have seen it. Now that I have, I believe it to be the best silent film of all-time. As epic as The Passion of Joan of Arc and Nosferatu (my favorite horror film, still) are, this one surpasses it. I will most definitely have to change my all-time top 25 list after seeing this, but need to let it sink in. The one thing that has an immediate impact on me, is how advanced this was, even compared to many movies of the 40's, 50's and beyond. The city scene alone (you'll know what I mean immediately), is something that would be hailed even in today's CGI world. It really made me think about how even the "masters" of today are simply copying the likes of Murnau, Dreyer and Eisenstein (among others).

Truly magnificent.

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Nice post. And I agree. I've never seen a better movie. Period.


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Agreed. It would still be ahead of it's time if made today.

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Unbelievable movie. In a sense, it could be compared to Citizen Kane, Battleship Potemkin and The Cranes are Flying, for its technical prowess, but emotionally only Aurora and The Cranes are Flying actually stand out, hence why I gave 10 to both. Indeed it's of the best films of all time and though the city scene you mention is absolutely magnificent, the night time tracking shots, especially the one following the man in the middle of the mist, are sequences I will never forget. If only the movies of today had the passion, "balls" and subtlety of this masterpiece...

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Someone had mentioned tracking shots by Scorcese to me recently and I said "see the mist in Sunrise and get back to me." Not taking anything away from Goodfellas, but for me, it doesn't come close for me.

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Do you know the works of Kalatozov? If not, check The Cranes are Flying, Letter Never Sent and I Am Cuba. That man had one of the best DoPs that ever walked the Earth working with him, called Sergei Urusevsky and the stuff that both of them conceived together is mindblowing, hand-held tracking shots without Steadicam and other kinds of shots and techniques (besides the ubiquitous flawless framing and lighting) that will make your jaw drop, I'm sure. Scorsese is nice and all, but feels a bit underwhelming when compared with the stuff that Murnau, Eisenstein, Welles and Kalatozov came up with before him.

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Thanks for the tip. I know the name, but not sure if I've seen any. Netflix only has The Cranes Are Flying, so I just added it.

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Sunrise is , I think, the greatest film of all time, but "The Cranes Are Flying" is another masterpiece. You will have to hit pause several times, just to take in, and feel, and appreciate what you have just seem.






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I don't think Sunrise should ever be compared to The Cranes Are Flying, for technical aspects or otherwise. The Cranes is much too much a depressing and devastating film, with it's death, rape, destruction, etc. Sunrise is about sin, redemption, forgiveness, love.

The Cranes evoked too many emotions for my own good far too quickly. Sunrise on the other hand is completely different. It brings about just the right emotions at just the right times. The transitions between "moods" is gentle. Very easy to take in. It's perfect.

The way Boris and Veronika's "young love" was portrayed was absolutely beautiful! It brought a tear to my eye. Both because of it's beauty and because I knew what was coming. Or so I thought...

The scene of Veronika running up to the apartment was another long tracking shot. Unfortunately, (I think) it was ruined by the traumatizing site behind her apartment door. We see everything behind it obliterated, including her parents. It was too shocking for words.

One scene after another brought about too many negative emotions. Sadness, disbelief, anger, sadness again, etc. Too much of a bad thing way too soon. It was too harsh. As a result I've not been able to appreciate The Cranes for what it is. Technically speaking.

Film "buffs" and "geeks" often complain that Sunrise transitioned too fast, between seriousness, happiness, back to seriousness. "Hot, then cold, then hot again..." They think it's an "emotional roller coaster." They don't know what they're talking about.

They need to see The Cranes.


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The confusion may have arised from my post, as I'm not a native English speaker. I didn't mean to actually compare them directly, I was actually highlighting both of them (together with Potemkin and Kane), as films that for me particularly standout within the time that were made, on a technical level. Obviously they are all quite different between in each other, both thematically, emotionally and on many other levels, however I feel that all of them possess true creative genius on their technical aspects that have made a deep impression (and therefore influenced movies made afterwards) on the history of Film. Hope I've made myself clearer with that. In any case, I agree with every single word you've devoted to Cranes, hence why it's one of my favourite movies of all time.

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Thank you so much for mentioning The Cranes are Flying. The first 35-40 minutes are technically some of the best I've ever seen on film. The genius is seen throughout, but from the opening through Boris' leaving, the film is nearly perfect. Even the rough scenes, the painful ones are done beautifully. At times, one might say too much so, because they don't always capture the pain. One thing, which I did find interesting, was it didn't at all feel like a Russian film. Even Tarkovsky's later films feel Russian, where this almost felt French or Italian. The star, wow, a cross between Bardot and Audrey Hepburn and I'm embarrassed I didn't know of her on sight.

I will admit, I did find myself, as someone else suggested, stopping and replaying scenes. Honestly, the amount of planning for these shots must have taken days. It actually took my over 2 hours to watch the film. Fantastic piece of art.

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No worries mate, glad you've enjoyed it, it is indeed breathtaking. Try to get the other two films I mentioned, Letter Never Sent and I Am Cuba. The Kalatozov/Urusevsky partnership never fails to deliver.

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-You won't forget me now?

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I've actually been seeing a lot about I Am Cuba lately. Hopefully I can get that one soon.

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