Question: Is The Use of Tinted Film Original????

"Most TV shows, old and new, are unbearable."

As an adult, I like very very few. Watch the BBC imports on PBS on Saturday night sometimes....Even as a kid I hated "Andy of Mayberry" or whatever it was. "Mom do we have to watch this stuff or can we go outside????"

I just saw Andy Griffith in "A Face in the Crowd" for the first time the other month (first Andy Griffith movie as well), and couldn't believe how good he was in it....you may disagree. I do find it shocking seeing some of the actors in TV sit-com roles in their earlier movies. Joan Blondell, Donna Reed. Every time Fred MacMurray called Barbara Stanwyck "baby", in "Double Indemnity" it sort of made me wince a bit...."Father" knows best, or "Daddy" does????

"I do like "Wild, Wild West." In fact, I'd love to see that again."

Another I liked was "The Time Tunnel", as it presented history but also a bit of ethical thought and discussion with regard to the episode....probably too advanced for its time. I think shows like "Leave It To Beaver" may have had a negative impact on children who's fathers and mothers didn't fit quite right into the molds provided....either way I'm gonna sue someone

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I did see Andy Griffith in Face in the Crowd, and I agree he's excellent. Very good movie. I recommended it to my dad, though, and he didn't like it. He disliked that Andy Griffith didn't redeem himself at the end.

From the library, I once got The Andersonville Trial, a televised play about a real-life trial that took place just after the Civil War. It's very serious and very good. And it was very nice to see actors better associated with lighter TV fare in such a thing. William Shatner has a lead role as one of the lawyers. Buddy Ebsen, an actor I always suspected was capable of more than shows like "The Beverly Hillbillies" allowed him to do, played a doctor haunted by what he had seen at the notorious Andersonville prison camp.


... Justin

Agree "Face in the Crowd" was very moving, I 'don't like movies like this sometimes, but realize the movie has made an impact and is certainly a great movie (if that makes any sense....) The "Little Foxes" for example....horrible and wonderful at the sane time....

I will look for "The Andersonville Trial", as I like Civil War history, and like you say, I love it when actors trapped in some horrid (perhaps) TV show script, can show what they can really do. I did love Cynthia Nixon way back in "Amadeus", and was shocked she was even in a popular show, "Sex and the City" of which I watch reruns from time to time. Had not seen her in anything else up to that time....I do hear she has done very very well in other TV movies. I did like Buddy Ebsen in "Breakfast at Tifany's", and have him in Captain January (1936) dancing with Shrley Temple, but thats about it....

I do wish they wouldn't have the banner "News Flash » Harvey Korman: 1927-2008" on every page, as it makes me very sad. IMO he was "one of a kind" but you might know better. He himself might say...."Yes one of a kind, but what kind would that be....????"

I finally watched "Grand Hotel", and it gave me the same kind of feeling as "Dinner at Eight"....as in I loved all the individual scenes, but when put together I only liked it....????

So, I liked it but didn't love it, but have only watched it once. Joan Crawford was great!!!!

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I can understand why it would depress you to keep seeing bad news over and over again. Maybe IMDb should have an option to allow users to block the news flash.

I like the news flash idea, though. I hate finding out belatedly when a famous person dies. My mom just told me that Sydney Pollack died on May 26th. I'd like to have known earlier. Not that I would have sent flowers or written condolence letters or anything. I never met the guy. I just to like to be up on who's dead.

I was listening to Pagliacci when I saw a post about Korman. (I saw the post before I saw the news flash.) You should be grateful you weren't listening to Pagliacci when you heard the news. Now that's sad.

Grand Hotel and Dinner at Eight are great favorites of mine. I'm glad you appreciated them, even if you didn't love them.


... Justin

"I like the news flash idea, though. I hate finding out belatedly when a famous person dies."

I guess, and yes you are right....I just change pages too often....perhaps a pop up that one can minimise....(I can't believe I'm asking for a pop-up....

"I was listening to Pagliacci when I saw a post about Korman."

Hummmm....now that is a classic I would like to see. I was happy on of the "Godfathers" offered quite a lot of "Cavalleria Rusticana", (which is recorded along with Pagliacci a lot as they are short). I did like the 10 seconds of it on "The Untouchables"....

"Grand Hotel and Dinner at Eight are great favorites of mine. I'm glad you appreciated them, even if you didn't love them."

I need to see them again though, I did think 'Grand Hotel' was grand, perhaps it is the luxury included in both that "puts me off" a tiny bit (for lack of a better phrase)

OK saw Valentino in "Camille" and speaking of opera....I had no idea, as it is the first verson of it I have seen....that "Camille" is "La Traviata" or vise versa....talk about spoilers.... I thought it was good, but not as good as Placido Domingo & Teresa Stratas' version....


"I don't remember yesterday. Today it rained."

Guess what I went to see today. Sex and the City. A friend drug me to it. It wasn't as bad as I feared. Good plot, good dialogue (mixed in with painfully bad dialogue), good acting. It's all too vulgar, self-satisfied and phony (even in its attempt to parody phoniness). But it has some genuine wit and maybe one or two moments of insight. The worst thing is the running time. Two and half freaking hours! Geez. That seems way too long for anyone, not just someone like me, who had only seen a couple of episodes and not liked them particularly well.

Anyway, I saw the title has no plot summary on the database. So I wrote and submitted one. It should be up in a week. I recommend reading the summary and skipping the movie. The summary is shorter.


... Justin

"I recommend reading the summary and skipping the movie."



Two and a half hours???? I have not at all been following any of the hype on this movie as usual. Let me guess. At the two hour mark the entire cast lit up cigartettes???? (I do know this is going out) Or there was water slowly trickling into a sink....

I do like when older movies are shown an the 'intermission' frame is left intact. Sometimes ya get extra music....free!!!! I am a bit surprised some of the dialogue was poor. I do watch SATC from time to time, and I must admit some episodes "just sit there"(channel change!!!!), when others just zip along....

"It's all too vulgar, self-satisfied and phony (even in its attempt to parody phoniness)."

The same with this....sometimes yes, but sometimes the episode seems natural.

Well I do have to hand it to you....you gutsed it out....

"I don't remember yesterday. Today it rained."

Shouldn't I win some kind of award for watching the whole thing? Well, the award wouldn't mean much, because I'm sure a lot of husbands and boyfriends would win it, too. Women, of course, don't deserve it. They want to see it.

I skimmed through a few user reviews. One guy said that he and his wife got into a fight because he didn't like it (and, of course, she loved it). He ended up on the couch that night.

I don't think I saw a single cigarette in the film. Shame. Cigarettes look terrific on-screen. And they're a lot more shocking than the crude sexual jokes and bathroom gags we do get to see.


... Justin

"He ended up on the couch that night."

Maybe the wife should review the title of the film....(????) It almost seems a perfect scene for the follow-up flick....

"Shouldn't I win some kind of award for watching the whole thing?"

Agree very much....well there is some award called the Oscar, so why not a Justin???? T'would be a just reward after all....

"Cigarettes look terrific on-screen."

And as in films such as "Sorry Wrong Number" cigarettes figure in the plot a bit....great scene overlooking "Grassville" in ol' Leona's car. Have missed any number of Bette Davis' films but hear she might have used cigs to an advantage (????). "Gilda" is the smokiest film I have ever seen though, I thought the smoke might come out into my living room at a certain point....

"And they're a lot more shocking than the crude sexual jokes and bathroom gags we do get to see."

I'm very cultured and do not watch such movies....which movies has the most of 'em would you say. But seriously being raised an ultra-fundamentalist, I dislike things like this when they add nothing or have no part in the movie. I did think they could have cut a good 10-15% of the 'language' in the "Long Kiss Goodnight", for example and it wouldn't have been missed at all....

"I don't remember yesterday. Today it rained."

I don't deserve to have the award named after me. I'm becoming less and less patient with bad movies. I'll turn them off double-quick if they seem to be a waste of time.

Speaking of cigarettes (as opposed to smoking them; it's easier just to talk about them these days), I think it's funny that the writer Joe Eszterhas, who got lung cancer, regrets how morally corrupt Basic Instinct is. He's talking about the cigarettes, not the nudity, the killing, the blood or the homicidal lesbians. He regrets corrupting persons--adult persons--by having portrayed the act of smoking.

I can just imagine showing Basic Instinct to time-travelers from the 1950s. Show them the movie, tell them the film had outraged the public and given deep regrets to its screenwriter. Then watch their jaws drop when you tell them the public's main objection was the way it put lesbians in a bad light, and the screenwriter's regrets were the cigarettes.


... Justin

I have not seen it, but get your drift. Hummm....Time travelers from the '50s. I would say they are in for a bit of a shock anyway.

"I don't deserve to have the award named after me."

And why not???? Why be patient with bad movies, as there are so many good ones out there to watch or re-watch. I've been on a Hedy Lamar kick, with the assistance of TCM as usual, but then discovered one after another (none Hedy) movie I taped in the middle of the night....

"Ekstase" from 1933. So old, Ms Lamar wasn't even Ms Lamar then....I beleive this movie is rather "rare"....I do not suppose you have seen it????

"I don't remember yesterday. Today it rained."

Someone put Ecstacy (the whole thing) on YouTube, and I watched part of it. But now I can't find it. I did find this clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5tGLyNHzrU I'm glad that's Hedy Lamarr and not Hedley.

In fact, I don't think I've seen a Hedy Lamarr movie. The closest I've come is Blazing Saddles.

I no longer have the assistance of TCM myself. I miss that channel.

... Justin

I do love that line...."Well this is 18(whatever) and you can sue HER".... What!!!! Have not seen one of her movies????

IMO she is very pretty, but do not like her acting style most of the time as an adult, if in fact she has an acting style....(some suggest she can't act at all, White Cargo, and Samson and Delightful suggest this to a point, like I am an expert.

TCM had a birthday salute to her the other day, and taped some in which she was very beautiful, and IMO acted in a more convincing way as well.... They were "A Lady Without Passport" from 1950, and "Lady Of The Tropics" from 1939.

"I no longer have the assistance of TCM myself. I miss that channel."

Well that is horrible news.... I rely on it very much as I hate TV shows, have grown to dislike pro-sports (too much of a buisness, still watch local scolastic stuff), and etc....

"I don't remember yesterday. Today it rained."

Luckily, I have a public library. And it will be awhile before I exhaust their treasure of old movies. Especially since I don't seem to be watching many movies lately.

You won't believe it, but I have a topic related to Beyond the Rocks (1922). Which I need to see again, since I've forgotten so much of it.

My sister just told me the theme of Adam Sandler's Spanglish is self-sacrifice in love. Sandler falls in love with a woman, but won't betray his wife. Wasn't that theme the topic of the thread (now gone) where we both started our first outrageously discursive conversation? It's certainly the theme of Beyond the Rocks. I don't think we brought up Now, Voyager or Brief Encounter; but those movies have that theme, too.


... Justin

Well my library is very small, go often and help out there doing volunteer type stuff.... They have a few classics, which includes the "Thin Man" series (which I had never seen), and a lot of the Marx Brothers series, the which I never saw as an adult....

Hummm....Have never seen "Spanglish" but think it is offered from time to time. Yes that would be the most modern film to fit the threads requirements!!!! Only have seen part of "Now Voyager", and have not seen "Brief Encounter" I did think of a title the other day, which may have worked but have forgotten it....

Am on a Virginia Mayo kick , watching "A Song Is Born" and taping something called "Colorado Territory" as we speak....(with Joel McCrea, and Dorothy Malone both of whom I like).... Have never seen Virginia Mayo in a dramatic role, seem to keep missing "The Silver Chalace" when offered....

"I don't remember yesterday. Today it rained."

I did think of a title the other day, which may have worked but have forgotten it.... Oh, you're a lot of help.

Virginia Mayo? I checked my vote history, and it seems I've seen her in four movies. But the one I remember clearly (because I saw it less than a year ago) is White Heat. Now that's the one to see. Of course, while Mayo is good, the real reason to see it is Jimmy Cagney.

I'm still not watching many movies these days. I did just see The Giant of Marathon, an English-dubbed Steve Reeves sword-and-sandal film from 1959. It was the featured film from a new DVD series called The Film Crew, written and performed by three of the guys who worked on "Mystery Science Theater 3000." Which means, of course, that they are making fun of the movie the entire time. Otherwise, I don't think I could have borne more than a few minutes of it.


... Justin

"Oh, you're a lot of help." Yaaaaa....Fighting at last!!!! That is should I wish to play 'network news' and spin this a bit....

Yes "White Heat" is supposed to be her best movie, but have not seen it. "Colorado Territory" was pretty good, but as above am biased with regard to cast. Henry Hull billed 4th....did he ever give a bad performance???? Every time I see him he is great IMO...."Lifeboat" and all that.... Yes have only seen ol' Virginia here, in "The Pricess and the Pirate" and Danny Kaye movies, so it was great to see her in something different. IMO she did very well....

I think I have seen a bit of a Steve Reeves movie....I wondered what the line from "Rocky Horror Picture Show" (which I have seen exactly once) was all about. "We could take in an old Steve Reeves movie" I still don't know....but am a little slow.

Am depressed as my 'regular board'....you know the one....has turned into a kiddy playroom, and not that I would really mind dumping it, but it has been a habit for a few year now, and....I don't have any money to go back to eBay

"I don't remember yesterday. Today it rained."

I feel ya. Too many of the boards have become kiddie playrooms. That's why I'm saying things like "I feel ya."

I'm not surprised "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" referenced a Steve Reeves movie. The film I saw was very homoerotic, which the Film Crew made much of.

Henry Hull! I only know him from one movie, but I was very impressed--with him, not the movie. Or rather I was impressed with his rich, mellifluous voice. Reminds me of Claude Rains, who also has a great voice. (The movie was Werewolf of London. Hull is the one who turns into the title character.)

Wait a minute! I've seen Lifeboat, too. I didn't realize that was Hull.

Oops, I almost pressed reply before I realized we're supposed to be fighting again:


... Justin

"Oops, I almost pressed reply before I realized we're supposed to be fighting again"

Putz!!!! Well, OK, that would have been an easy mistake to make of course, but I will make a big deal out of it....(I'm trying for a job on one of the network news channels, and need those types of things for my resume )

"I'm not surprised "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" referenced a Steve Reeves movie."

Well ya know I looked him up today, and I had him confused with some other, at least, semi-famous actor of yesteryear, which I had thought was the same person. (whom I think made a lot of westerns, gee helpful hint) Yes, reviewing Steve Reeves' credits reminds me of the old line from Airplane...."Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?"

Hummm....overnight I remembered the actor I confused Steve Reeves with was Randolph Scott whom I have no familiarity with, and have no idea....none, how I confused the two....(????)

Wait a minute! I've seen "Lifeboat", too. I didn't realize that was Hull.

I think "Lifeboat" was the first I had seen of him, as I rented "Lifeboat" thinking it was a movie I had seen part of when I was a kid, but it wasn't. Henry Hull also had a small part in "A Portrait of Jennie" (or is it "A Picture of Jennie", and "The Portrait of Dorian Grey ????" snicker snicker.....

I will have to look for "Werewolf of London". He did pop up just lately in the "Colorado Territory", and also "Deep Valley" the Ida Lupino film from a few weeks ago....more, more!!!!

"Reminds me of Claude Rains, who also has a great voice."

I must admit for the longest time "Casablaca", and "Phantom of the Opera" were the only flicks I had seen of his, but these past few years added a few more....one of which was "Mr. Skeffington" which I thought was great....I keep on stumbling on the last part of "Mr Smith Goes To Washington", have never seen the beginning, and "Here Comes Mr. Jordan"....he's another one, of course, that probably doesn't disappoint.

I am taping "The Red Shoes" today which I hear is quite odd....but am unsure if I will continue to tell you what I am taping/watching as it might be rubbing salt in your wounds, you being TCMovie-less. Hummmm....But on the other hand.... I just watched the opening credits, and whats this???? What with this color buisness???? Hurt my eyes....

"I feel ya. Too many of the boards have become kiddie playrooms. That's why I'm saying things like "I feel ya."

The only civil board I have seen is the Classic Movie Board, but it is way out of my league. I do enjoy reading over there from time to time, it is rare that a post is basic enough for me to comment on thought. Very nice people....it restores my faith in human nature....or whatever. But forget that and lets fight some more....

"I don't remember yesterday. Today it rained."

I was wondering why I hadn't heard from you. But I checked this thread and discovered -- to my ego's horror -- that you were the last person to reply, and that I can't blame you. I have to blame myself. Damn.

The moral of this story: don't rely on email notifications.

Where were we? A knock-down, drag-out battle? We'll have to work our way back into that one.

Recent movies watched:

What Lies Beneath with Harrison Ford and Michelle Pfeiffer. Terrible. It gave the appearance of being a good ghost story: few special effects, quiet scenes of dread, etc. But the plot is stupid, and the movie ends three or four times before it finally stops.

Santo vs. Lady Frankenstein. Yes, a Mexican wrestling/horror film. I saw one on "Mystery Science Theater" (Santo vs. the Vampire Women), and it was so hilarious, even aside from the commentary, that I thought I'd watch one by itself. Very funny, very entertaining.

Hangover Square and The Lodger. Two Victorian-era horror films made in the 1940s, both starring Laird Cregar, an actor who went on an unhealthy diet to lose weight rapidly and ended up dead before he was 30. Both very good; I liked Hangover slightly better, partly because it has a Bernard Herrmann score.

Live and Let Die and The Man with the Golden Gun. Two James Bond films I'd never seen previously. Neither are very good, and both were made weaker by an incredibly unfunny hick sheriff, intended for comedy relief. Still, there were good things in both films. I liked the voodoo ritual in the first and the belly dancer scene in the latter.

I just started Richard Attenborough's BBC nature series, "Planet Earth." So far, it looks great.


...Om