My Students Called This 'Racist' -- Your Response?


Hi, I'm hoping that there are enough "Broken Blossoms" fans out there to offer some input that will give my students some pause for thought.

I showed this film to my class and they responded that they thought the film racist. I think that that impression of the film may have cancelled out their ability to see the artistry of the film. If that is the case, I think it's a shame, because I do think that any worthy evaluation of "Broken Blossoms" would have to take into account its beauty and its technical achievement.

Anyway ... I will be offering the students my own take on the film, but I'd really be interested in reading any fans of the film out there who would care to comment.

I will invite my students to read here; I don't know if they will.

Oh, PS, we're going to see "Son of the Sheik" next, so if you have any thoughts on that, toss them in, as well.

As ever, my humble thanks to all the incredibly well informed movie fans who read and post messages here.

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Well, I'm Asian and I watched this film in high school for my Film History class. I found it quite racist. Having a Caucasian shave his eyebrows a little and squint his eyes and the filmmakers think that that will convince the audience that he is Asian is very racist to me. Also the actions and the mannerisms, to me, are basically what I believe to be how Americans perceived Asians (eating tea and noodles and smoking from a long pipe).

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''...are basically what I believe to be how Americans perceived Asians (eating tea and noodles and smoking from a long pipe).''

People actually from China do not eat noodles or drink tea? Well, you need to tell them that. Not all Chinese people drink tea or eat noodles, but noodles are a popular dish in China. In fact Chinese noodles spread to Korea, Japan and South East Asian and remain, along with rice, a staple dish.

As for that long pipe, it was a common Chinese type of pipe for that era.

And ''Asian'' doesn't exist as an ethnic group. All humans are related, but take Japanese and Chinese. They are not ethnically related closely at all. And what about Indians? They are hardly related to Chinese also.

So what ''Asian'' are you? Chinese?

Also having non-''Asians'' playing ''Asians'' at that time is not due to racism, it is due to the fact that there were not that many Chinese actors available, at least not very accomplished ones. It is racist now, but not then as it was usually just a necessity. And what I find more offensive now is when they cast Chinese as Japanese, or Koreans, or Thais or vice versa as if they are the same group when they are very diverse and some are more related to ''white'' groups genetically and linguistically than they are to Chinese etc. The construction of an ''Asian race'' is true racism and denies many groups a unique culture (though most cultures are inspired by China and its wonderful achievements...though the same can be said, to a lesser extent, for Europe).

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I don't excuse the inherent racism of the movie, but you've got to put it in context. Not to mention, to dismiss outright as racist is to completly ignore the beauty and tragedy of the story, which in fact is brought about by the hateful racism of the characters. The two most innocent people suffer because of it, thus exposing it. I think it's an easy out for people who don't really want to take a closer look.

On that note-hello? The movie was filmed in 1919-not a lot of Asian actors to choose from, not to mention Hollywood wouldn't have hired them if there had been. Think of the mental state of most of the country towards foreigners-not too enlightened. Most leading men were totally All American. At first the studios didn't even want to cast Rudolph Valentino because he looked too foreign-good for them that someone came to their senses. And speaking of which-

Son Of The Sheik is fabulous. Of course, your female students will probably like it a lot more than the male ones.

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I don't excuse the inherent racism of the movie, but you've got to put it in context. Not to mention, to dismiss outright as racist is to completly ignore the beauty and tragedy of the story, which in fact is brought about by the hateful racism of the characters. The two most innocent people suffer because of it, thus exposing it. I think it's an easy out for people who don't really want to take a closer look.



Also understand, at that point in cinema anytime there was to be a lead character in a film who was anything but Caucasian, the director always had a Caucasion dress and get made up to be Asian, or Black. If you pay close attention to the film, while in the Opium den, there is a man in there who is sitting and looking at a woman who is laying beside him (or near him). He is really a Caucasian man, but has dark face paint on so as to portray a Black man.

There were actually some Asian men in this film but they had tiny roles. The men playing Fantan with Cheng Huan, as well as the man where Lucy tries to buy food from. (I think there may be a couple of others I left out).

Having Chang Huan be portrayed by an Asian man would have also been extremely controversial again not just because it was completely unheard of at that time having a non-Caucasian play a lead role, but also because of the inter-racial interaction between the two characters. As it was at the time the film opened, it was greeted with great controversy because of all the inherent racism, and that was even having with Barthlemess' character being portrayed by a Caucasian man!

Even for tiny scenes, it was controversial at that time to have anyone who wasn't Caucasian in a movie.

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"Also understand, at that point in cinema anytime there was to be a lead character in a film who was anything but Caucasian, the director always had a Caucasion dress and get made up to be Asian, or Black. If you pay close attention to the film, while in the Opium den, there is a man in there who is sitting and looking at a woman who is laying beside him (or near him). He is really a Caucasian man, but has dark face paint on so as to portray a Black man."

That's not entirely true, Sessue Hayakawa (born in Japan) was able to have leading roles. He had 2nd billing in Cecil B. DeMille's "The Cheat" in 1915 and had top billing in some Laskey/Paramount movies.

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Well, put it into context and it was still racist back in 1919. HAHAHA.

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It's certainly racist by today's standards. As a teacher myself, I would be uncertain of showing it to students without first having a long discussion about the film and its context. But it WAS 1919 and although the film does play for every single stereotype about Asians (and has a white man play an Asian character) I would not say the film is deliberately hateful...

On that note, how did your students react to some of the other "stereotyping" seen in the film? The character of "Battling Burrows", I think, plays into the stereotype of working class men being drunken and violent. The helpless Lucy is the stereotype of the weak female who needs to be rescued by the man. Did your students bring this up? If not, why? Are some stereotypes considered more worthy of outrage than others? You might want to introduce this into the conversation.

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I believe that this is the most intelligent comment about this film made on this board so far!!

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May I say, first, your own comments are intelligent and ... well, heck, you must be a very good teacher. Bravo.
Second, most of the other comments and replies are also intelligent.
Casting a Caucasian as a Chinese could work, I suppose, if the makeup were better, but I think of others, such as Edward G. Robinson, who were equally awkward as Chinese but given great praise.
On the other hand, perhaps we need a stronger suspension of disbelief when we watch movies like this.
No, the movie itself is not racist. That's become such a general and therefore meaningless word anyway. (Often it means nothing more than "how dare you disagree with me!")
If the movie were "racist," the Chinese character would not be so admirable, and he IS admirable.
I have seen this film many times over the years, once, at a FILMEX showing, with a live orchestra! And what an exciting experience that was! (I wish someone would remind me of who the conductor was. He was a brilliant and capable musician, so good at his job that when the projectionist got a reel out of order, he was able to keep the music correctly accompanying the action. An amazing, astounding feat of musicianship. The score, by the way, was by Louis F. Gottschalk, and I wondered why his original score wasn't used when TCM recently presented this film.)
In closing, let me call attention to this proof the film was in no way racist: The hero is going off to England to try to convert the natives ... a delicious slap at the self-righteousness of Western "Christians" who think missionarying goes only one way.
I do hope your students can think outside of the box that simplisticly labels such a work of art.
With such a great teacher, surely they will.

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I would agree that while it is racist to cast a Caucasian as a person of Asian ancestry I do not think it affects the artistry of the movie. I am sure the film would have been boycotted had actual Asian actors appeared in the movie. You could have a discussion about racism towards Asians in Hollywood Cinema, which I think would make an interesting topics. Your class could view scenes from this film, the Mr. Moto series (Peter Lorre as an Asian still is absurd to me), Charlie Chan, Breakfast at Tiffany's (1961), and other films with Caucasians as Asians. You could even look at a modern film like Memoirs of a Geisha, which had Chinese actors playing the main Japanese roles. You could also compare these films with those that have Asian actors like Bridge on the River Kwai, The Steel Helmet, or House of Bamboo, which was filmed in Japan.

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http://imdb.com/title/tt0009968/trivia
I believe it was gish's attitude, don't always blame griffith for this or that
didn't tarantino say, it's all the actings that matter??

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My Students Called This 'Racist' -- Your Response?
by nichcola (Mon Apr 16 2007
Son Of The Sheik is fabulous. Of course, your female students will
probably like it a lot more than the male ones.
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Gish and Buster Keaton were my favourite silent film stars. And
the few times Keaton actually parodied Gish (for instance, in Go
West he actually does the Broken Blossoms 'smile') are priceless.

Keaton admired Griffith as a film maker but deplored his sentimentality.

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http://imdb.com/title/tt0009968/trivia
I believe it was gish's attitude, don't always blame griffith for this or that
didn't tarantino say, it's all the actings that matter??


The thing with Gish not wanting to do the film has nothing to do with racism. She said that, being 20-something, she didn't want to portray a 12-year-old. However, Griffith convinced her by saying that the role was too heavy for a girl that young.


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Are you really from Florence? A dear friend of mine lives in Rome!

This thread theme is so ironic because Griffith chose BB partly to
exculpate himself from the (only too justified, I'm afraid) charge
that his Birth of a Nation was racist. Silent films are wonderful
but there are a lot of teeth-gritting racial stereotypes that make
us cringe today. Still, I don't approve of editing them out to
make them more palatable to audiences today; the sole exception being
films shown to young kids who might be embarrassed by caricatured
representation.

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racist, racialized...yes. The portrayol of the Asians is very stereotypical. But not without its merits. I don't think it would be fair to have a discussion of this film without acknowledging how very different the attitudes towards race were in its day.

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Two of the racist things that bugged me about the movie:

- Lucy couldn't be bothered to learn Cheng Huan's name, she called him *c h i n k y* even though he took care of her and asked nothing in return.

- Mr. Richard Barthelmess played Cheng Huan as a crouched over, slinking man. As if he had something to hide or was up to something. Kind of plays into the stereotype of Asians being deceitful.



>>Oh, well that's different. Nevermind!<<

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