If the last prints of this film have been destroyed, or as someone said in another post, only 45 seconds remain, how could this film be voted a 9.4 out of ten?
How did these people see the film to vote? I haven't seen it, nor can I, because there is no celluloid in my attic! I don't doubt that the film may be excellent, but how can anyone have seen it if the thing has been destroyed.
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Thankyou................I had wondered exactly the same thing myself!
Maybe there are some people out there that know more than us perhaps?! After all 75% of voters have given the film a 10 out of 10.............
After all 75% of voters have given the film a 10 out of 10.............
At this point the rating is down to 6.1, as 50% of the voters have given the movie a 1. While I'm betting it's a reactionary attempt to keep the film around an average of 5, it's actually a rather insulting thing for people to post a 1 on a lost work they've never seen. Rating a movie you've never seen makes no sense to me in either direction, but least the people who posted a 10 were showing well-meant appreciation for a lost piece of cinema history. A one is what you give to a film that should never have been made in the first place. Seems like a shabby way to treat a lost piece of art.
People should just bow out of rating lost films altogether, imo.
Exaclty. Well, 1917 is pretty long ago, but a lost film from the thirties may still have had some votes in the 90s from people who remember seeing it? It's theoretically possible. Or lost TV series from the 60s. It's not completely impossible.
There is someone who is preparing a photo-by-photo reconstruction of Cleopatra (1917). That may give a good enough impression to vote.
Very good question!
Cinema is a good way of escaping from problems and sorrows of life.
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Yes still no answers unfortunately...........
There was a poster on this board who was going to ask some 97 year old if he had seen the film as a kid (a long shot him remembering I would have thought) but so far nothing.
I personally don't know many ninety-something people "au fait" with the Internet either unfortunately!!!!!!!!!
The film is not completely lost though as a few feet (amounting to about thirty seconds footage allegedly) was donated to the International Museum of Photography & Film,George Eastman House in Rochester,New York for restoration but again I have heard nothing since.
As a substitute (& assuming you can obtain it) you may also find the 1912 film of "Cleopatra" starring Helen Gardner interesting.
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The 30 seconds of footage are featured in the documentary "The Woman With The Hungry Eyes". http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0997110/
I agree that people should note vote on a film they did not see, and people should not write reviews on films not seen, either. However, imdb shows an external review based on literary analysis of the film’s script, cast, crew, and production notes (http://www.filmthreat.com/features/439/) and a user review along the same lines (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0007801/usercomments). I think that people in the USA with access to national or regional newspapers with film reviews or comments dating to the original theatrical showings may have fallen on the temptation to vote for the film.
Having seen a few films with Theda Bara, I say they are not to blame. This may have been a portentous film, indeed.
Although not often, sometimes I vote for films that I do not see in their entirety on television shows (caught mid-way during broadcasting) or those which I fast forwarded on video (too terrible to spend 90 minutes on front of the telly)… I hope one day I may vote for this version of Cleopatra, too!
My best guess? Some folks are easily amused...
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