MovieChat Forums > Frankenstein (1910) Discussion > Anyone with experience with the DVD vers...

Anyone with experience with the DVD version?


Has anyone had the opportunity to view this DVD:

http://iofferstores.com/i/Edison-s-Frankenstein-1910-Rare-lost-Movie-2 6887086

How does it compare to the Graveyard release?

Kind of like the way they've used the original release artwork on this one. Graveyard's looks rather hokey, in my opinion.

reply

The Ioffer store version actually looks A LOT better than the graveyard release! Graveyard is trying to tell people they have the "Authorized Version" of a Public Domain film you can see for free online(!!!????)

Stay clear of The Graveyard version! It's a crappy version with crappy artwork that looks like it was created by a 10 year old with Photoshop!

reply

Mr Carey seems to have a problem with Mr. Dettlaff's release and spends an inordinate amount of time pontificating on it here.

I have no experience with the other release. Most people selling copies of the film sell DVD-Rs. Graveyard Records obtained some of the last of the DVDs from Mr. Dettlaff's run of 1,000. As such, it is a real DVD and not a DVD-R or other copy. All copies trace their source to that DVD.

reply

[deleted]

Well, if a negative has turned up in a vault, that's great! No one else has heard of this, so perhaps you could enlighten us? Until your message, Al's print was the only one known to have survived. The other was in the collection of Charlie Tarbox in Los Angeles, which was apparently destroyed by a fire in the 1970s. Perhaps you could tell us who has the negative. It would make for an interesting piece of information, and I'd like to interview the owner for an update to the story I did on Al and the film five years ago.

You are wrong about his putting a piece of nitrate in his pipe. He Apparently did it ONCE in order to make a point with someone re: how once the film had oxydized it was not explosively flammable. The incident was reported in an obscure comment that was available on the web. Mr. (or Ms. -- there apparently are two) Carey blew that way out of proportion in his/her comment here and implied that Al made a habit of taking RARE nitrate off of a reel of film and then put it in his pipe. The piece of film he used for the demonstration was from a reel that had already deteriorated.

No one ever claimed that Al was perfect. he wasn't. Did he think that his print was worth much more than it was? Absolutely! Was he eccentric? Yes.

I love the way folks like you like to say that if YOU owned the film, that you would've done all the things that you claim. Perhaps you would've, but we don't know that. Al sumbled upon a one-of-a-kind item and thought (mistakenly) that he had an original piece of rare art in his possession. Well, people value original art more than they do an original movie print. There's a simple way for you to release the film the way you'd like to: make the family an offer for the print and spend your own money to make it happen the way that Al did. Then we can all hail you as a hero and true altruist.

As for your comments re: my being from Wisconsin, or your other comments, I think they speak for themselves and go to your credibility.

reply

..and please tell us about the other prints. Except for Charlie Tarbox's print (destroyed in a house fire in the 1970s) Al was never able to find another, and no one else has ever come forward with one. Since you "work in the film industry" you must have all kinds of information on those prints. Please share it.

And I would like to know about the negative that someone told you has turned up. If it has, I'd like to interview the owner. (Al had a negative made in 1978 by Eastman.)

reply

While you're add it, would you please provide information on the other prints that have turned up. No one else seems to know of any. (Clips that found their way into compilations all trace their origin to those released by Al to a British company in the 1970s.)

I'm serious. If there are other prints out there, I'd like to document them.

All of the knock-off DVDs being sold were copied from Mr. Dettlaff's release. They didn't come from some other long, lost print. (Incidentally, wouldn't those folks be guilty of hoarding the film too? Do you feel the same way about them? It's amazing that they suddenly began selling copies after Al released his DVD. Coincidence I guess. But...you work in the industry and so know more than i do about such things...)

reply

Who cares if there are other prints. Anyone has the legal right to extract the video from Detlaff's DVD for any purpose they so choose. Again, it is in the public domain, even though the old headcase tried to make money from it, and infer that he had some sort of exclusive right to.


And what do you mean by "knock off"? Again nobody owns the film. What was it knocked off from? I'm proud that I prevented, persuaded, and discouraged many, many people from buying the "exclusive" DVD during Al's lifetime. I was happy to point them to online resources to see the film, and even to sites where they could download the entire public domain film to their desktop, menus and all.


Al was trying to bully people into thinking he alone had rights to the film itself.

reply

I personally don't know how to two of those compare. I do know that there's another site to buy a copy of the movie from.

greatmoviereview.weebly.com

You get the full screened film. Not a zoomed in copy to try to cut out the watermark. (The watermark isn't even all that noticeable any way.) Also you get a nice quality copy of Nosferatu to go with it. All for only $6.00, shipping included.

Edison's Frankenstein is a classic silent film. A film that should be seen by all, and should be a part of any silent film buff's collection.

reply