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I dont get kid music these days


Why is she being so praised?

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No clue. I will accept that the music has a catchy beat to it, but the singing and lyrics are mediocre at best. You could have had any other female singer sing her songs and they would be the same or better. She is just the flavor of the day, mostly because of how she branded herself. But she won't last long, hell her biggest song was made 5 years ago when she was 12 or 13... yet she claims to write the songs with her older brother? Sorry but those lyrics weren't written by a 12 year old I think we can all safely say her brother is the writer she's just the puppet used to sell his music.

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I agree, the catchiness comes from the beat which I understand is composed and performed by her brother. So why is she the star?

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She is the star because he looks like a computer nerd from a comic convention... worse yet he was too old. By throwing her out there as the centerpiece they could try to sell her as the young prodigy.

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He’s 23. How’s that too old? Since when has male musicans’ looks been an obstacle in the music world? But I get it. Edgy young teen sis can draw in the GenZ, whereas big bro is kind of cusping into the now uncool Millennial market.

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Sadly looks started to matter as soon as MTV came to be. No doubt there are a lot of talented singers and musician in the 70's that would have never gotten onto a play list once the music videos came to be.

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I remember Elvis Costello, Rick Astley, Aerosmith were all over MTV. More recently Ed Sheeran and Coldplay haven’t been hampered by their odd looks.

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surprisingly some of the greatest old ones had horrible lyrics. bruce Springsteen is praised for his "simple yet deep and profound lyrics". no they are just the former (simple) and not the latter.

WAP's lyrics look like Shakespeare compared to bruce Springsteens entire discography.

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Older people said the same thing about the stuff you listened to as a kid too.

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Nope. I was raised on a diet of classical and jazz, no pop music until I got to college... Nice try though. Of course the thread isn't about my musical background its about Billie Eilish, but since you aren't trying to contradict anything I said about her limited abilities I'll just accept that as a begrudging acknowledgement that it was spot on.

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Michael Jackson in the 80s was loved by children and adults. So were many other artist. Not the crap today though.

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Michael Jackson while obviously far more popular than Billie Eilish, he had his share of criticism from adults too. Some fans that preferred Prince or other artists of that time, and of course the older ones that preferred the music from their the 60s and 70s. There just wasn't any social media around back then for it to be seen as as much as now.

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You're so full of shit, I can't stand it.

Michael Jackson rose to meteoric fame IN THE 1970s as the lead singer of The Jackson Five and was CELEBRATED by young and old alike as the guy who was carrying on the tradition of the Motown sound into the 1970s and 80s. When Motown had its famous 25th century anniversary on NBC for the generation that came of age in the 1960s and 1970s--he and his brothers were the headlining act, and his performance of Billie Jean, when he did the moonwalk, was the highlight of the show. (I actually saw it and remember it to this day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXDwBoCs_lw) So, it makes no sense when you say "the older ones preferred their music from the 1960s and 70s." The older ones of the 1980s were the ones who grew up listening to him.

By the time Prince made his debut, Michael Jackson had been famous for almost a decade, and so was just a newcomer to the scene. There was no criticism from Prince fans. (WTF? I listened to both Prince and MJ; why on earth would someone who liked Prince criticize MJ?)

You're such a dope. Why do you posters do this? When called out on stuff you don't know about, just make stuff up not expecting to get called out on it? Do you not realize that there are people on this forum old enough to have lived through this entire period?

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Wow, clearly you don't read very well, and you have no room to call anyone a dope by making all of these assumptions. All I said was MJ had his share of criticism over the years as time went by, and as that time went by fans took more of a liking to other talents that were big throughout the 80s and the 90s which is 100% fact. MJ was still very liked but he did not have every single person out there kissing his ass. It's just the way it is.

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And you're an ignorant bigot. Why "I BE crazy?" Because we're talking about black artists? So now you have to trot out the fake ebonics?

Welcome to my ignore list. I think "ThrillerTalk" was just being a typical argument troll (just posting b.s. and then arrogantly posturing with more b.s. when called out on it), but gotta give him credit--I don't think he's a bigot (at least, I hope). You're just trash.

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how are my posts B.S but yours aren't? I'm not even the one that brought up MJ originally, I just added my 2 cents to the OP's opinion as I have a right to do so on this public message board.

If you can't handle the fact that MJ (or any other highly popular star in history) wasn't liked by everybody then that's on you to deal with.

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Merely doubling down on the bullshit is not going to make it stick any better.

Again, I don't understand why you people do this. I remember how a few weeks ago, a guy was contradicting someone about 1990s grunge, pretending that he was listening to the "underground sound" years before Nirvana broke out. He was saying stuff like, "My generation was the one that gave you your music." But then the more he talked, the more he kept mentioning bands at least a decade after grunge. So, as it turned out, he was just a guy who was born 20 years after everyone else, but was talking down to everyone, acting as if he was born decades before they were, in order to tell them how wrong they were about everything.

I get it. You're young, and playing games on the internet like this is fun. But at some point, you're going to have to spend more and more time interacting with adults in the real world in a mature fashion. So, why not develop the type of skills now--on the internet--to better prepare yourself when you reach a time in your life when you'll have to interact with people more offline instead of online? Instead of just being immature?

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Oh shut up. You are acting like an old fuck...

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She's new and uncontested. Not doing the pop diva Ariana Grande type of crap. We'll be awash in a million Billie clones soon.

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agreed. I feel like Grimes was elish before elish ever existed. she just got more popular and well known. and far more diverse and talented and not so "look at me and how anti mainstream I am!!"

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Because she is a little different..
At least it's a change from that generic bubble gum sounding pop that makes everything sound the same ..
She does seem very limited and without range right now but maybe she'll surprise us

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Good points.

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Who the Hell is Pearl Jam?

Because they are a little different..
At least it's a change from the generic hair band sounding ballads that makes everything sound the same ..

Pretty sure every generation can play this game.

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Best band from the 90's.

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to be fair, everything sounds the same and always have. when my grandparents listen to their "golden oldies" music channel that covers the 50s, 60s and 70s. There is a very clear decadal sound to each, or at least a clear segmental generational grouping as one bands sound influences the whole genre. and they all end up sounding similar and generic.

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Is she a little different or is 'a little different' what's in right now so that's what has been produced? Heh...

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I actually don't mind her.

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Terrible music. I tried to listen to some of her on Austin City Limits and couldn't stand more than a minute of it. The song sounded like it had a sample from a Throbbing Gristle "song" playing in the back ground.

She's somewhat cute. That's her only appeal in my opinion.

But she's nowhere near as cute as last year's sensation (don't recall her name). The half black girl from Canada who wears frumpy clothes. And her music is actually good (based on the little of it I heard).

Then there's H.E.R., she's phenomenal.

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My youngest daughter got me to watch some show on Eilish where she was talking about how they created one of her songs... and it was so overly sampled and manufactured it made me want to puke. She was happily admitting to doing hundreds of takes of one verse and then taking the best words from those and stringing them together to get the finished verse.. To me that isn't a sign of talented singer that just a producer, and not even up to the standards of a good DJ. I am hopeful her 15 minutes are about up so the radios can move on to the next fad of the day.

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If your talking about the Austin festival last year, I was there to see someone else and saw her show also. There was no band, just one guy who was a DJ or something. She’s a great performer but I guess we’ll just see how long she’s around for.

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I tried listening to her music, and I couldn't last more than a few bars. She is so BORING and derivative. Right off the bat, I thought, "Oh, Nelly Furtado, before she became trashy." Yawn. Been there, done that.

And she has this vocal style that I noticed became popular in the 1990s and has become more heavily used over time. It sounds as if the female is singing with a vocal fry. I absolutely can't stand it. Years and years ago, there was a female studio singer who had this style and you could always hear it in various radio and TV commercials.

I think she is popular for the same reason Adele and Lorde became famous. It seems as if any chick with marginal talent who isn't ghetto, trashy or slutty like Gwen Stefani, J Lo or Fergie and is backed by instrumentals is automatically seen as the next Tori Amos or Joan Baez, LOL. No. Being the opposite of trash doesn't also mean that your stuff is good.

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I dont get magnets and black holes

how do they work?

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