are people that obtuse she is US Citizen she deserves to back with her friends & family, Drugs you saw you did, or probably did some I one point, Ill admit i did
shareI've done my share of drugs. But I never smuggled drugs into a foreign country while representing America in international sports. She's a national disgrace.
Let Miss Bleached Dreadlocks do her time just like every other drug smuggler. She deserves what she got.
YOUR DICKLESS PREJUDICE IS SHOWING AGAIN.
shareIn 2020, Griner, along with teammate Brianna Turner, called for the WNBA to stop playing the United States national anthem before the games.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/07/28/brittney-griner-brianna-turner-call-wnba-stop-playing-national-anthem-this-season/
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE HER RIGHTS AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN...GETTING HER ASS OUT OF THE SHIT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS AMERICANS.
shareSmuggling drugs isn't though.
shareTHAT ISN'T DRUGS...AND IF YOU HAVE SMALL ENOUGH BALLS TO SAY OTHERWISE...WELL...YOU DO YOU...PROBABLY FREQUENTLY AND WITHOUT LUBE.
shareIt was DEFINITELY the drugs that made her do those things.
shareALCOHOL IS MORE DESTRUCTIVE,ADDICTIVE AND DANGEROUS THAN ANY AMOUNT OF WEED COULD EVER HOPE TO COSPLAY AS...AND THEY SERVED THAT SHIT ON THE FLIGHT IN.
shareStoners are fucking losers bro 🤣🤣
shareCOOL...OFF TOPIC...BUT SUPER COOL,BRAH.
shareJust shut the fuck up with your stupid view points and all cap posts.
No one gives a fuck about her. Its not our responsibility to get her out of anything. She made the choices to go to Russia with an illegal substance. She was arrested for a crime. Regardless of what you believe to be right or not doesn't change the fact that she didn’t follow the laws of the land that she chose to visit.
She made her bed now she will lie in it.
Lol. Weed vape juice. Lock her up!! Herp Derp
shareHerp derp. Illegal substance in Russia. Break laws in foreign shit hole country and and cry about being locked in shit hole prison. Herp derp.
shareAlcohol isn't being discussed here, but both are a blight on humanity. Weed paralyzes peoples lives and saps all abbition. Don't believe me? Look in a mirror.
shareYOU SEE HOW NAIVE AND IGNORANT YOU ARE?...SOME OF US HAVE ACTAL CONDITIONS AND DISORDERS THAT WEED TREATS...I AM 1000% MORE ACTIVE,ATTENTIVE AND SANE SINCE I STARTED TAKING IT FOR TREATMENT...MY 20'S(BEFORE I STARTED SMOKING)...I WAS A COMPLETE FUCKING MESS...I COULD ALMOST PASS FOR HUMAN THESE DAYS...MAYBE GROW THE FUCK UP,CHONGO...NOT EVERYONE IS THE SAME.
shareAnd I never said they were. If what you say is true (I have my doubts), then you are an outlier. You and every human on planet earth knows that the VAST majority of marijuana users just want to get high.
shareAGAIN YOUR IGNORANCE IS SHOWING...MY GRANDMOTHER SMOKED FOR TWO YEARS BEFORE SHE DIED TO HELP TREAT HER CANCER...I KNOW A GUY WHO SMOKES TO RELIEVE MIGRAINE PAIN.I DO THIS AS WELL...IT IS LITERALLY A PLANT FROM THE EARTH AND IT CARRIES HEALING PROPERTIES...YES,OF COURSE IT IS FUN BEING HIGH...BUT HEY,AFTER SMOKING REGULAR FOR OVER A DECADE...THERE ISN'T MUCH OF A HIGH ANYMORE.
shareAgain, your ignorance is showing. I have stated many times, I'm not talking about medicinal use. Morphine, fentanyl, codeine, Oxycontin, Demerol, Xanax, etc,. etc,. etc,. are also a blight on humanity when they're abused. They are also incredibly beneficial in the medical world. Same as weed.
P.S. Opium is also "A PLANT FROM THE EARTH".
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Alcohol isn't being discussed here, but both are a blight on humanity. Weed paralyzes peoples lives and saps all abbition. Don't believe me? Look in a mirror.
SAID TO ME...A MEDICAL USER...EAT MY DICK.
Like I said, I have my doubts, but be that as it may, even used medically, there are potential negative effects and from what I know about you, you suffer from some of them. Eat your own dick. 🥒🍆
shareYOU DON'T KNOW SHIT...THAT IS WHY YOU SPEAKING ON ANYTHING IS SO RIDICULOUS.
shareWhatever. I know more than you.
shareASSUMPTION IS WEAKNESS.🍌
shareTake a few more bong hits. You'll completely forget this conversation. 🌶️
shareAS I SAID.🍑
shareWTF Kowalski? She broke the laws of the country she was in, why should it be *our* responsibility to get her out of the mess she created for herself?
Yeah, it's harsh of me, but I'm sick to fucking death of seeing rich and famous people think they're above the law.
SHE IS AN AMERICAN...SHE BROKE MILD LAWS...RUSSIA CAN SUCK ON A DEAD COWS ANUS....WE DON'T LEAVE MEN OR WOMEN BEHIND.
shareYes, Russia sucks. Yes, the law is unjust.
But no, Americans aren't above the laws of the countries they choose to visit.
10 years? Bro.. really?
shareLike I said, the law is unjust. That doesn't give Americans the right to flout the laws of whatever country they visit.
If you don't like the penalty, don't do the crimes.
10 years for something that is legal in some states...
What if she didn't know the penalty? Do you read up on all the laws for countries you visit?
Murderers get less time. Who was she hurting?
For the 20th time, YES, THE LAW IS UNJUST. You don't have to tell me that again.
And yes, if I liked recreational activities that are legal in some countries and not in others, such as wine, sacramental peyote, or same-sex BDSM, you bet your ass I'd look up the laws of the countries I was about to visit! Because AGAIN, TRAVELING AMERICANS ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAWS OF OTHER COUNTRIES. That is the point I keep trying to make, and which nobody else even wants to discuss.
This isn't the first time I've seen people assume that laws don't apply to American tourists, look up the story of the teenager who literally got his ass whipped in Singapore for littering. As with this case, most of the chatter in America included the assumption that Americans were above the laws of other countries, and ever since then I've seen why some places might want to make an example of some thoughtless American who assumes they can get away with anything.
UNJUST LAW MEANS FUCK THEM IN THEIR FACES...WE NEED TO GO GET HER AND SHOOT A COUPLE DOZEN DICKFLAPS IN THE PROCESS...THIS PLAYING BALL AND TUCKING OUR DICK BETWEEN OUR LEGS FOREIGN POLICY IS GARBAGE...IT GOES LIKE THIS...RUSSIA ARRESTS HER...WE TELL THEM TO GIVE HER BACK AND IF THEY ARE LUCKY WE DON'T KICK THEIR ASSES...I AM AN AMERICAN...AMERICA IS NUMBER ONE...AND EVERY AMERICAN IS DUE THE SUPPORT OF THE REST OF US...WE STOP SUPPORTING AND AIDING OUR OWN AND WE BECOME RUSSIA.
shareExactly
share^^^THIS^^^
shareGood post. And no one is talking about the possibility she got hammered by the court for trying to sell the excuse that she didn’t realize she packed hash oil due to “stress packing.” Then you see the images of her carefully organized suitcase. Some courts show no mercy when you plead guilty and then sound arrogant in refusing to accept responsibility for breaking the law.
share[Jack Nicholson voice] YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!
shareWe don’t leave men and women behind in WAR. Not leaving anyone behind has zero to do with some dimwit basketball player going to Russia with illegal drugs in her bag.
shareWE DON'T LEAVE PEOPLE BEHIND AT ALL,VLADIMIR.
shareOh ok. There’s millions of Americans locked up abroad. You give a fuck about them? Do you know about them? Know their names? What about Martin Franfurt? Locked up in China since 1996. You care about him? Or do you only care about this black gay athlete?
shareTHIS IS NOT A CRIME WORTH PUNISHMENT...YOU KNOW IT TOO...THIS IS NOT A CASE OF SPECIAL TREATMENT...AND BLACK AND GAY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ISSUE FOR ANYONE BUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU...WHO THINK BLACK AND GAY ARE NEGATIVE TERMS.
shareYou refuse to acknowledge that it doesn’t matter what we view as a worthwhile crime. The FACT is it is a crime in RUSSIA. Where she was. If a Russian citizen was caught with it they too would be locked up. So in Russia she should be above the law of its citizens? Why? Because shes her? Because shes an AMERICAN she should be treated special?
shareDoesn't matter if he is an american citizen. That doesn't give him the right to break the law in another country.
PERIOD.
I AGREE...AND THEN I DON'T.
shareNobody cares if you agree.
Don't want to be in prison in a foreign country?? DON'T BREAK THE FUCKING LAWS. Simple.
NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR OPINION EITHER...SO...LET'S DO THIS...GIVE IT A FEW MONTHS...WE WILL SEE WHO'S UNCARED FOR OPINION TURNS OUT TO BE THE BASIS FOR REALITY.
share"OPINION TURNS OUT TO BE THE BASIS FOR REALITY."
WTF??? Are you high or stupid or both??
WELL...AREN'T YOU A RUDE LITTLE SHIT...IT'S COOL THOUGH...I HAVE BABYSAT BEFORE...WE CAN STILL BE FRIENDS.🙂
shareWell, I'm rude when i meet idiots.
Opinions are NOT the bases for reality ;)
Unless you live in some magical hobbit shit world.
TELL ME...IS IT FUN PURPOSEFULLY MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT SOMEONE HAS SAID SO YOU CAN FEEL SUPERIOR?...IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE A DICK THING TO DO...WHY NOT JUST COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE?
ALSO...WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE MOVIE?🙂
This is what you said: "WHO'S OPINION TURNS OUT TO BE THE BASIS FOR REALITY"
Maybe you fail to understand your own words, I've seen quite a few of you.
And it's funny that usually you don't event clarify your point, you just keep saying "you misunderstands" like that makes YOU superior somehow.
Communicate what? When you cannot express your ideas clearly ..
YOU KNOW VERY WELL WHAT I MEANT BUT CONTINUE TO WHINE ABOUT IT...IT'S QUITE SILLY.
share...GETTING HER ASS OUT OF THE SHIT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS AMERICANS.
where are your other posts about other USA citizens in foreign prisons?
KEEP LOOKING.
sharein other words none exist. poser
shareIN OTHER WORDS....THIS IS MOVIECHAT...WHERE I COME TO CHILL AN CHAT ABOUT MOVIES AN TV AND SHIT...NOT THIS KIND OF TOPIC...HOWEVER WHEN HER FACE IS FOREVER PRESENT ON THE FEED ACCOMPANIED BY SOME OF THE SHITTIEST RESPONSES POSSIBLE...WELL...I FEEL COMPELLED TO RESPOND.
shareThanks for confirming you don't care about other USA citizens in foreign prisons and that you are a poser.
shareI did advocate for bringing her back. I really wanted her to be able get of Russia. But then OnanThe Barbarian pointed out that she has bleached dreadlocks. I now advocate for her remaining in the gulag. Thanks for that enlightened thought.
share☝🏾
shareMaybe she'll hang herself from the rafters with her bleached dreadlocks and then we can forget about the drug smuggling cunt.
shareWHY?...YOU COULD BE FAIRLY COOL...BUT INSIST ON SOUNDING LIKE A SCUMBAG ASSHOLE.
shareDude, she beat up a pregnant woman. Lock this thing up and throw away the key. I have no sympathy whatsoever for this animal.
shareDude, she beat up a pregnant woman.
IN RUSSIA?...OTHERWISE I DO NOT GET THE CONNECTION...YOUR LACK OF SYMPATHY IS KEY INGREDIENT IN THE SHIT COVERING OF THIS COUNTRY.
Hmmm. So the President is supposed to intervene in the arrest of every American when they break the law in foreign countries?
Or is this more about the self entitlement of a privileged athlete?
She's a woman beater, an anti-American who disrespects the flag, and now a drug smuggler. Quite a resume! Throw away the key. We owe this monster nothing.
"We owe this monster nothing"
Some would say the same of you.
It's a fucking vape cartridge. Oh mah gawd. The horror.
You sound like a monster to me...
You seem to not be able to comprehend that it doesn’t matter how insignificant the charge seems to us. In Russia it is an illegal substance punishable by a a prison sentence. If you choose to go to another country, especially a shit hole one like Russia, then you better follow the laws of the land.
shareYOU SURE LIKE THE TASTE OF RUSSIAN COCK,HUH?🙂
LOOK AT YOU....JUST SUCKING AWAY.
IT WOULD BE SAD IF YOU DIDN'T LOOK SO HAPPY.
Alot of American haters on this thread... showing true colors
shareMY GRANDFATHER SAT IN A JAPANESE POW CAMP FOR OVER TWO YEARS...BEING FRIENDS IS COOL BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE ON DIFFERENT TEAMS AND RIGHT OR WRONG,YOU SUPPORT YOUR TEAM.
shareUp to a point. Like if she killed someone I'd be fine with her rotting in jail... but we are talking about weed...these people want her to hang for this and it's just plain wrong
shareIT IS NOT A DRUG AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT...THE CRIME DOES NOT FIT THE TIME...PLUS RUSSIA IS A SHITHOLE FULL OF TURD BAGELS...YOU GUYS WITH YOUR PUSSY FOREIGN POLICY OPINIONS ARE THE EXACT REASON WE SEEM SOFT AND SHITTY SO OFTEN THESE DAYS.
sharePlease never post again
shareThis.
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Why exactly does she deserve to be released? She broke a law in a foreign country. Their house, their rules. Tough cookies for her.
what if she was your daughter though screw you man
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I don't think any foreign country would let a law breaker off just because she was my daughter. I mean, I'm a swell guy and a joy to be around, but I don't think any of that would impress any foreign nation, particularly the Russkies who I generally despise.
But she's not my daughter, and as a law abiding American, I find Griner an complete embarrassment and a terrible ambassador for the people of America. Ugly American? - it's Griner.
Honestly, anyone arrogant enough to intentionally break the laws of a foreign country (they are instructed before going) brought this on themselves.
Their house, their rules. Tough cookies.
Can’t disagree with this. The simplification of “their house, their rules” works well enough.
It’s not like she’s a POW. She broke the law in a foreign country, and faces the consequences like anyone else would in that country.
I mean, if I went to a foreign country, and I was made aware that getting caught with drugs in that country could lead to a “Midnight Express” scenario … I wouldn’t want drugs anywhere near me. Fuck that! I’d just drink my face off (which is oddly more destructive…but whatever).
I’d just drink my face off (which is oddly more destructive…but whatever).
THAT.👆🏾
THIS IS NOT ABOUT LAWS...IT'S ABOUT JUSTICE.
I'm surprised anyone thinks international relations and commerce is that simple.
Everyone's trying to make money off everyone else, and people shouldn't be thrown in jail for spitting on the sidewalk or not wearing a headscarf.
Really??
This must be the most idiotic argument.
"He killed a man"
"What if she was your daughter?? Let her go. Ah and she's black so let her go"
Plus: she couldn't be my daughter. For several reasons:1. It's a he. 2. My daughter would not be so imbecile to break the law smuggling drugs in a foreign country.
She spent the past few years lobbying against the national anthem being played at WNBA games. While I do feel bad for her, she did break the law in a foreign country. I think the US government should go through normal channels to try to get her released but I don't support a high-level prisoner swap or other deal. She chose to make big bucks in Russia and now she'll learn how lucky she is to live in the USA. When she gets released in a few months/years, she better stand for the US anthem.
https://www.theroot.com/wnba-star-brittney-griner-wants-no-parts-of-the-nationa-1844530979
I don't feel bad even slightly. She did the crime, she now does the time- what's the issue here?
shareIt's 10 fucking years for a vape cartridge... you think that's fair? Sparky...
shareWho am I to say what is fair for that society that I am completely unfamiliar with? My guess though is that the penalties were the same when she packed the drug as when they were levied against her, meaning she should have known better. You can't save people from themselves.
shareI agree that what she did was stupid on her part... but in the grand scheme of things, you are OK with a person losing 10 years of their life over some weed? Which hurts Noone else.. murderers get less for crying out loud.
share10 YEARS OF HER LIFE TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY WHO HAVE SHIT LAWS,SHIT GOVERNMENT AND ARE SERIOUSLY OVERDUE FOR A KICK IN THE BALLS.
shareYep. We should get her out especially with what's going on with Russia and the US supporting Ukraine. No telling what they are capable of doing to her...
shareYou’re aware there’s lots of people locked up for longer here who have done less, aren’t you?
Of course not. You can’t read and all you do is yell and emote. Stop smoking.
AWW...YOU GOT PISSY...AND HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU SPEAK ABOUT...ALL OF THE DRUG OFFENDERS IN OUR COUNTRY NEED TO BE RELEASED...I KNOW THIS FROM THE MULTIPLE PETTIONS I HAVE SIGNED,BOOKS ON THE SUBJECT I HAVE READ AND RALLY I ATTENDED...OH AND WHEN MY FATHER WAS ARRESTED AND DETAINED ON A 20 YEAR OLD AND ALREADY DEALT WITH WARRANT ALONG WITH THE THE MONTHS OF LEGAL SHENANIGANS IT TOOK TO GET THE GLITCH FIXED AND HIM RELEASED. ..WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THE UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE WHO GOT RAILROADED BY OUR COUNTRY'S DUMBASS WAR ON DRUGS?...OH YEAH..I FORGOT...YOU'R ATTACKING STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET BASED ON ABSOLUTELY ZERO INFORMATION.
share..but in the grand scheme of things, you are OK with a person losing 10 years of their life over some weed?
Also ten of her years are pretty wasted years anyway. We are better as a society without her.
shareI didn’t see where he said he was ok with it. Just said he didn’t feel bad.
You people are too stupid and can’t read. Stop smoking.
Might as well be the same thing.
shareNot even close to the same thing but
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's pretty close
shareTwo things can be true at once and appear to be so here. The OP is clearly not ok with a harsh sentence, not even close like you seem to believe.
Also it can be filed under Play Stupid Games Win Stupid Prizes.
It must suck to live in an either/or world.
Also a sentence can appear to be unjust and I give a rat’s ass about the fate of a woman beater.
shareIt's the LAW. Doesn't matter if it's fair or not. It is the LAW.
Period.
JoeJ: The NYT and Forbes report Biden has now offered to exchange Griner for Viktor Bout. Assuming this occurs:
* do you think this will indirectly lead to innocent people dying once Bout is back in circulation selling weapons to terrorists and other malefactors?
* do you think Griner will feel any sense of guilt that her moronic urge to consume hash oil in an authoritarian Russia inadvertently started falling dominoes that led to such deaths?
* if Griner acquiesces to being exchanged for a truly violent and dangerous convicted felon like Bout, do you think she will recognize the lack of credibility in any continuation of her claims about injustice in the U.S. carceral system?
* upon returning to America, do you think she expresses some form of contrition about her prior disparagement of America having experienced - first hand - the real application of injustice that occurs outside the relative safety of U.S. borders?
I’m genuinely interested in your thoughts on any of these you’re interested in addressing. You are always a straight shooter in your comments
You should should just STFU.
You present a series of shitty assumptions like they are the something other than that.
Shame on you for telling America to not be compassionate toward their citizens.
But I shouldn't be surprised. Ugliness is the calling card of the alt wrong these days.
America is no longer the Home of the Free. It's the home for those who want to disrupt and strip freedom and compassion and Christian love from us. Our house has been fouled by this calumny.
I will not shut up. You will have to accept that the internet does not cater to you. I accept your criticism that until the trade occurs, my list reflects hypothetical presumptions. But the purpose of a hypothetical is to predict the outcome to a presumed scenario. My questions are relevant and genuine. In our past exchanges, I’ve always been willing to expand my thinking from your posts. But I won’t address worthless ad hominems. If you have now become too fearful of discussing alternatives to your worldview, you should go to a site where everyone says the same thing as you. I suspect you will be bored with it and back here within 24 hours.
share* Griner being free means Bout is free to continue being a criminal? Seriously? Maybe you should exchange your own freedom so Bout can't do whatever apparently he will be able to do, since it's just like Juggling in the Park.
He's like some Justice League super-villain, and only He can do all those Bad Things, and no one came prevent Him from doing all those Bad Things. So you give up your freedom for the betterment of the world.
* Your assertion that BG might lead to such calamity is colossally unfounded in it's unapologetic hyperbole.
Whatever may come to pass, all BG is a convenient target and scapegoat. Sense of guilt? You have got to be kidding me.
* Maybe we should give Griner the chance to choose whether to thank the USA and all of her supporters for helping her out of a shit situation she shouldn't be in in the first place.
And what? Should she NOT acquiesce to being exchanged? What the hell world are you in?
All this mushy-mouthed talk of "credibility in continuation of claims of carceral injustice?" WTFRU talking?
* And that's what you want from Griner? Contrition? Her pound of Flesh?
You do things for people because it's the Right Thing to do, not so they show you the proper gratitude.
I'm sure BG would be very grateful for a hand up by her fellow US citizens. Extremely grateful.
That her fellow US citizens want her to genuflect for it makes me sick.
It’s 2 am where I am but I will read this and I will think about what you’re saying and probably respond in the next day or two. I do respect your point of view snepts.
shareI'm not familiar with Bout's various crimes aside from a New York Post article. I would think that Bout would not want to get involved in dealing weapons again after spending several years in the US prison system.
https://nypost.com/2022/08/04/who-is-viktor-bout-merchant-of-death-us-might-trade-for-brittney-griner/
I don't want to get inside her drug-addled brain so I can't speculate on her mindset/guilt/feelings. She's also a female and a woman's brain is hard to figure out. I still don't like the trade but one article noted that Bout would probably be released in five or six years.
If this trade happens, Griner should be forced to stand on the tarmac before the US flag while the national anthem is playing.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11084401/Russia-confirms-talks-swap-Brittney-Griner-Merchant-Death-arms-dealer.html
She and the others imo should serve as an example to anyone want to travel to a dictatorial/authoritative country that this could happen to them and that if they do go, don't expect help because YOU took the RISK. Not the governments job to have to babysit these folks.
shareBoreikon strikes again... zzzzzz
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