Black and a woman


Evidently, these are the only qualifications necessary to be a democratic VP. Good for her for not being afraid to except the role based in on her race and gender alone.

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for sure

https://youtu.be/uBQ4PAT1hTg

Biden: If You Don't Vote for Me, 'You Ain't Black'

May 22, 2020
191,868 views

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Isn't it crazy that qualifications and viewpoints are never even discussed? Nope, just what color is your skin, and what's between your legs, that's all that matters when you are a liberal.

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And isn't hypocritical that you are dismissing her for the same reasons.

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Did i say I dismissed her? I don't remember saying that.🙄 It seems pretty clear, if you actually read my post, that I don't think skin color or gender should be a factor in choosing an elected official.

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Good for her for not being afraid to except the role based in on her race and gender alone.

If that isn't dismissing her, I don't know what it is.

You don't have to agree with anything that she's done in her time as attorney general, or while being district attorney, but to dismiss this to only focus on her skin hue, and her genitals in your post is hypocritical.

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Ok, you're obviously purposely being obtuse so you don't have to admit how stupid you sound. My focus was CLEARLY that the only qualification to hire her was her skin and genitals, based on the words by the man who selected her. There was no discussion around anything else, so my statement is 100% accurate, and literally impossible to be hypocrisy, but that clearly triggers your
lefty sensibility, which is often the case when facts are presented to liberals. Nice try cupcake.

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Where did Biden say that he chose her solely on the colour of her skin, or the fact that she has a vagina? I'm not saying that those didn't factor in, of course they did. You are the one implying that there were absolutely no other reasons, and that's not the truth.

Not American, not a Democrat, and I am looking at the facts.

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Well it certainly couldn't have been for her "qualifications"

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I clearly remember Biden's pool of candidates was limited to women because I remember thinking he automatically dismissed half of the viable candidates. It was widely speculated that he would choose Harris because she was other than white, which eliminated 70% more of what was already eliminated.

If a candidate was chosen because that person was white and male and excluded all others, the shit would have hit the fan.

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I guess my thoughts are if he was decided on her, does it really matter? Why was Sarah Palin really chosen? There are agendas behind why every vice president is picked. My issue is that any accomplishments she has are being dismissed because she's a woman, and her skin colour.

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I suspect Palin was chosen for the same reason, and the reasoning is faulty. We're talking about running a country - only the very best qualified candidates should ever be considered. Selecting a VP by first winnowing out candidates by gender, age, color, religion, sexual orientation, height, looks, etc. is ridiculous and is clearly pandering - the reduction in qualified candidates is obvious.

My issue is that any accomplishments she has are being dismissed because she's a woman, and her skin colour.


Too easy. I was called a misogynist because I didn't vote for Hillary, and a racist because I didn't vote for Obama the second time (I'm black BTW). I'm also a homophobe because I don't think humans with dicks between their legs should be allowed to use the same bathroom where my wife, daughter, or mother might use. I discovered I'm also a xenophobe because I believe in protecting our borders from illegals. It's just too easy to dismiss criticism by assigning it one of the "ists" or "obes".

I think every president who ever took office was unqualified when they first were sworn in. Most grew into the job, and I hope that Harris grows into the job when Joe is "retired" next year. If not, we're screwed.


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Again, all I'm saying is that whether you like this woman or hate her, she has accomplished things in her life. It's not like she was picked off the street as someone with a vagina and dark skin. You also don't know that Biden didn't consider anyone else before he made the decision to go with a woman of colour. Honestly if she wasn't a woman we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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It's not like she was picked off the street as someone with a vagina and dark skin.


No, not off the street (nobody said that), but the pool from which Biden picked WAS limited to candidates with dark skin and a vagina. To choose anyone except the best qualified candidate is not only wrong, it's screwing the country and it's screwing *me*, which is what I care about.

Honestly if she wasn't a woman we wouldn't be having this conversation.


Oh, OK. But what "ist" or "obe" are those of us who don't think Biden is qualified being assigned?

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I don't even know what you are getting at now.

Who was the best qualified person?

How is her being VP screwing you?

I haven't called you an "ist" or an "obe". I did say that if she wasn't a woman we wouldn't be having this conversation and I mean it. While you might not think that you are sexist (I can't judge, I don't know you), society is.

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I don't even know what you are getting at now.
Who was the best qualified person?


This couldn't be any simpler: when deciding on picking a VP, Biden eliminated *all* men, and *all* white folks from the pool. What that means is that statistically speaking, he eliminated most people from the pool from which he would choose. Odds are that the best candidate wasn't even considered. As an American, I'm pissed that Harris was chosen because she's female and something other than white, and not on any accomplishments that might indicate a possibility of being the best person to be VP and then President. That's how I'm being screwed, along with every other American.

No, I don't know who the best candidate would be, it's not my job to vet candidates. Is Harris the best candidate? Maybe, but the fact she was pulled from a very small pool and the fact she's never said or done anything that remotely makes her look viable to me is disconcerting.

You keep saying all the criticism about Harris is because she's a woman, and I'm saying that's a lazy way to debate. Most folks here don't if Harris is female. That ship sailed years ago. Most folks here don't care if she's not white (Obama was elected twice- *that* ship also sailed years ago). The only people who are making an issue of gender is those who can't defend her qualifications and reduce the argument to her detractors being misogynist, or sexist, or racist.

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Okay, so you don't know who the best candidate would be, and you don't know it's not Harris.

This is a quote from Biden "I am not committed to naming any (of the potential candidates), but the people I've named, and among them there are four Black women,"

No where does that say that he was only considering Black women. In fact he said that it will take about six weeks to complete the vetting and that his campaign is doing a "detailed analysis" of contenders to narrow the list before next month's nearly all-virtual convention in Milwaukee.

So again, where did he say that he was only choosing from those black women?

So, I will ask you, if it's not because she's a woman, why are we having this conversation?

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I wasn't going to respond again, but you asked me two questions, so I'll make this last post on this subject.

So again, where did he say that he was only choosing from those black women?


LOL, if you think Biden, even in his diminished mental state, would openly say he would not pick a white person or a male, you're fooling yourself. The rest of us knew how this would end. Vegas wouldn't even take odds that his VP pick would be anything than a woman of color.

Since Obama became president, we can't use the "racist" argument to defend her, so what's left?

Here's an interesting read that I picked because it's from NPR:

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/12/875000650/pressure-grows-on-joe-biden-to-pick-a-black-woman-as-his-running-mate

And another:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/08/10/open-letter-biden-lose-if-he-doesnt-pick-black-woman-vp/3335831001/

So, I will ask you, if it's not because she's a woman, why are we having this conversation?


Because she was chosen by her gender, and *you* are making this about gender in order to deflect legitimate criticism of her.



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If Biden had picked a man, there would be no discussion, unless it was Pete Buttigieg.

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Sort of blackish.

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I'll also accept if a person self-identifies being a black woman.

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One of her ancestors was a slave-owner.

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Maybe that was also a qualification, but asked in private?

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What qualifications are needed to be president? Seems not a lot.

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Hopefully more than just being black and female.

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lol

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Men and Women are apparently the same so I don’t understand why the Woman part matters at all.

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At the very least, have some expectations on personal and policy beliefs.

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Don’t be ridiculous. Those are secondary.

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It's sad how true that is.

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I’m sorry. 😞

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Its ok, not your fault. I'm starting to get used to being disappointed in liberal nonsense.

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Yeah, I just prefer to keep to myself and ignore the silliness of the World around me.

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I live in a small town of less than 1800 people. Its nice, and very little has changed here in 50 years. Let the cities burn, if thats what they want.

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Small town here too.
Yep, have your chaos. I’m just going to keep going about my daily life.

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