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She offended people!


https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrity/gal-gadot’s-seemingly-innocent-tribute-to-stephen-hawking-offended-some-people/ar-BBKhcO7?ocid=spartanntp


Let this be a lesson Gal - if you don't want to offend people in this age, never say anything. Ever.

I should probably take my Stephen Hawking bobblehead off my dashboard.

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LOL! She's now called an "ableist" because she dared say that he was constrained by his disability. Someone tell me with a straight face that Hawking wouldn't have wished to be NORMAL physically if he could have had that wish granted.

I remember I innocently used the word "midget" when describing a person of uncommonly short height. Some SJW flared her nostrils at me for being insensitive. I of course immediately apologized and rephrased it as "vertically retarded". Boy did that cause a sh**storm!!! LOL.

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That's awesome! Some people are offended by anything and everything today. For me, unless there is malicious intent behind it, then what people say or joke about shouldn't be such a big issue. And it's usually pretty easy to discern when humor is meant to be hurtful. I like South Park type humor myself, so I've got no problems with that kind of stuff. I don't mind being the butt of a joke if it's done in fun. I'm a 2 foot tall, 650 pound Jewish transgender werewolf. And I'm nearsighted, so have at me. (I hope I didn't go too far with that myopia reference)

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It's not just Gal, apparently it was a big thing for people to say that Hawking is now "free" and it was pissing off a lot of people who use wheelchairs.

Just put yourself in their shoes and think about it: Someone who knows nothing about wheelchairs and disability basically implies that your only freedom is in death, even though the wheelchair is exactly what gives you freedom and allows you to have a life.

Celebrating that he's "free" of physical restraints really is a pretty twisted statement. Just stick to regular mourning. Saying that wheelchair-bound people can only find freedom in death really is pretty offensive.

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Saying that wheelchair-bound people can only find freedom in death really is pretty offensive.


Well then don't say it. Those who commented on Hawking didn't.

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"Those who commented on Hawking didn't."

But they did, that's the thing.

I outlined two excellent tests:

-Imagine someone celebrating the passing of Rosa Parks by saying "Now she's free from racism! She'll never have to sit in the back of the bus again!" It's not a good sentiment.

-Find someone who is disabled to the point of needing a wheelchair, or being bed bound, etc. Talk to them for a while. Then see if you would say this: "Just think, some day you will be free of your disability, because you'll be dead. Won't that be wonderful?"

Again, not a good sentiment. These people would have NEVER said anything even close to this while Hawking was alive, suggesting that his death will be a good thing. NEVER. That's the ultimate test.

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"-Imagine someone celebrating the passing of Rosa Parks by saying "Now she's free from racism! She'll never have to sit in the back of the bus again!" It's not a good sentiment."

I know I shouldn't be responding to you any more because you use circular logic, but let me ask you this: other than the bus incident and other acts of racism (which as a black man I have plenty of firsthand knowledge), did Rosa have any good days? Did she laugh, did she dance, did she hold a child, did she walk barefoot in the grass, was she able to wipe her own ass? I never knew her, but I'll bet that in general she enjoyed her life.

Hawking was never able to do any of those things. He lived his last years with supreme indignity.

"-Find someone who is disabled to the point of needing a wheelchair, or being bed bound, etc. Talk to them for a while. Then see if you would say this: "Just think, some day you will be free of your disability, because you'll be dead. Won't that be wonderful?"

Locate my post responding to your toy post an hour before you posted the above. That says it all.

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You're generalizing! I'm so sick of generalizing.

She didn't mean EVERONE in wheelchairs, she meant Hawking, who was crumpled up in that chair unable to do ANYTHING except type on a computer.

This is the biggest thing that pisses me off about snowflake SJW's. They think when you make a statement about an individual with a certain characteristic you lump in EVERY person who has ever had that same characteristic, much like a "one size fits all" attitude about people.

People are different, every single person, and shockingly to you, even those in wheelchairs. Some can live great lives even though they are disabled. Steven Hawking was very confined. Maybe he enjoyed that, who the hell knows except him and people close to him, but I'll bet a lot of people in his position, myself included, would not want to live the way he did, and would feel "free" so to speak upon death.

She was trying to give a positive sentiment about the man's death, and sure enough, the "offendeds" come out of the woodwork and take a simple comment and turn it into an insult to everyone who has ever sat in a wheelchair, demanding apologies, blah, blah, blah.

When the hell will this shit end? I'm guessing with the internet, never. But it's beyond brutal at this point. Some people just wake up every day looking for something to be offended by.

Sorry if my post offends anyone. Lol.

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There's nothing wrong with Hawking toys:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XE5cUO53ajg/TjNQHd3Rl2I/AAAAAAAAC9g/aG2d5G7qPo4/s1600/shawk.jpg

But yeah, celebrating and suggesting that a disabled person can only find freedom in death... It's really not a good sentiment.

Her heart is in the right place, but it's no good. It wasn't just her, either, it was people all over the world, on Facebook and Twitter and yadda yadda. Here's one little article about it:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/tribute-cartoons-of-stephen-hawking-free-from-his-wheelchair-are-deeply-offensive_uk_5aaaa297e4b073bd8292c707

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You think paralyzed people would want to be free of their wheel chair if there's an afterlife, or no?

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That's not the point. Here it's easy to see how it can be a bad sentiment... The old "would you say it to them" test.

Find someone who is disabled to the point of needing a wheelchair, or being bed bound, etc. Talk to them for a while.

Then see if you would say this: "Just think, some day you will be free of your disability, because you'll be dead. Won't that be wonderful?"

All of a sudden the real implication is clear: The statement MEANS that disabled people can best find freedom and happiness in death.

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You're basically taking the worst possible interpretation of what people meant by these comments. Which is what the recreationally offended tend to do.

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There is no real alternative interpretation, the sentiment is very clear: The belief that disabled people should look forward to the freedom of death.

It's weird how topics like this are literally people being offended at other people expressing their feelings, basically... While complaining about people being offended.

I always find this stuff to be an interesting learning experience, it lets me better understand the way I say things and how they might come across. It also gives me insight as to deeper reasons that I'd never say something, like for example this "freedom" sentiment: I found it creepy but I couldn't really articulate why until I looked into it.

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You think paralyzed people would want to be free of their wheel chair if there's an afterlife, or no?That's the crux of the whole argument.


Those who are "offended" are offended at pretty much anything. I've found that those easily offended by condolences that reference a release of suffering though death are hyper-atheistic in general.

One of my clients suffered and died from ALS, and she told me she couldn't wait to be free of her vegetative body and *walk* along the lake shore with her previously deceased husband. I'm agnostic at best and wish I could have her faith, but I do hope she made it.




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One of my clients suffered and died from ALS, and she told me she couldn't wait to be free of her vegetative body and *walk* along the lake shore with her previously deceased husband.

There are also healthy people who look forward to death, and even those who take their own lives. That doesn't mean that we should assume other people also want to die.

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Here's another good test: Imagine someone celebrating the passing of Rosa Parks by saying "Now she's free from racism! She'll never have to sit in the back of the bus again!"

It's just... No. NO. Not a good sentiment, when we think about it.

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There's nothing wrong with Hawking toys:


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XE5cUO53ajg/TjNQHd3Rl2I/AAAAAAAAC9g/aG2d5G7qPo4/s1600/shawk.jpg

How offensive!!!!

That toy shows Hawking operating the wheelchair with his left hand, something he's been unable to do for many years. And smiling? When was the last time he was able to smile???

And a helicopter wheel chair? Implying that he could only find freedom through an apparatus that doesn't even exist? A mechanical boxing glove? Demonstrating with great clarity that he's unable to use his own hands for defense???

It looks to me like that toy is more for making those not so afflicted feel better about that poor man's condition..

I hope you're ashamed of yourself.

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"operating the wheelchair with his left hand, something he's been unable to do for many years"

Actually, that makes me wonder if he was able to use a joystick when that Simpsons episode was released, and that's why he was portrayed that way. But yes, in the Simpsons, they gave him full facial expressions.

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Ridiculously overly sensitive pc crap.

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I am a Liberal, every morning i wake up looking for things to get offended over.


I live alone, yet i still have Men, Women, and Transgender Icons on my bathroom door

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Once again: This topic is obviously run by people who are offended about others expressing their feelings... And yet complaining about people finding something offensive, ironically.

Now the disabled have become the target of the "You're a PC liberal snowflake and I wish you would just shut up" sentiment... Coming from people complaining that "We can't say anything anymore, waaah."

It's all so very ironic and hilarious, to me. Some people are apparently just sick to death of the feelings and opinions of others.

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You can have whatever opinion you like, and we can think what we like about it.

People are free to disagree, at least at this time.

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What a load of BS! she said nothing wrong.

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Even that doesn't work. Look at how much shit Taylor Swift has gotten into by literally not saying a word against her president.

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