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Gina does one-hour sitdown interview with Ben Shapiro


Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxObG659Sc0

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Poor thing has to spend time with Shapiro.

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She loves playing the victim.

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She has been fired and blacklisted by the mainstream industry for not sharing the political-religious woke beliefs.

She's not playing the victim. She is a victim.

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true........she is getting bullied by cowards that preach tolerance and practice hate. Its disgusting.

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She's in the Entertainment business and people aren't Entertained by her.
If I don't like my Pest Removal person's Politics, I don't go to this Pest Removal person.
Free Market Capitalism. They can still do their job, we just don't have to cater to them.

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"She's in the Entertainment business and people aren't Entertained by her."

Right, because she's not absolutely a fan favorite in Mandalorian and there is absolutely no backlash after her being treated like that......... oh wait.

Fucking idiot parrot.

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Many viewers do not feel a need for performers to be leftwing. Actually, I find most shows to be far too leftwing for my taste, but there is a dearth of centrist tv. But the people who control the money and the production of entertainment are rather good at ensuring that anything that fails to indoctrinate with leftwing ideas, or participants who fail to adopt leftwing ideas, are removed from the industry. It's disturbing but there you go.

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Like your idol AOC?

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Dude, she actually IS a victim.

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Yeah. Of the Nazis. I heard.

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Spoken like a Brown Shirt!

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So I'm curious... what do you think of Pedro Pascal doing the same thing? Is he a Nazi?

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When did Pedro claim to be persecuted like a jew in Nazi Germany?

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I don't think she was claiming to be a jew in Nazi Germany. I don't think you do either but it fits your narrative. I'm wasting my time here so I'll just leave it for you to twist into whatever rebuttal makes you feel like you've got some moral high ground.

She was making a comparison to cancel culture and narcing on people and mob mentality being similar to how Germany started changing their mentality on Jews and how hatred grew from that.

Looking at how BLM marches went into neighborhoods and restaurants adn screamed at people, and how being a conservative is like a Scarlett letter that people are 'outing' in social media, I can see where she is coming from.

To me, what she did was try to explain how she sees America acting like pre-Nazi Germany in the way people are persecuted.

That's exactly what Pedro did.

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No she said that "republicans" like her were being treated for their opinions they way the jews were treated for being jews in Germany.

German's views on Jews weren't changed by the nazi party. They were exploited. Jews in europe had been persecuted at regular intervals. Nazi's used them as a scapegoat for the hardship people faced at the time and promoted the idea that Jews should be officially excluded in order to make Germany great again. Sound familiar?

If what you say is true though, then it implies that she already knew she had no future in Mandalorian, if she was already talking about being cancelled before she was "cancelled".

Pedro drew comparison between photographs of people placed in cages at different points in history. He didn't claim that he himself felt like he was in a cage because people responded negatively to the stuff he posted online or any of that crap.

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"Pedro drew comparison between photographs of people placed in cages at different points in history. He didn't claim that he himself felt like he was in a cage because people responded negatively to the stuff he posted online or any of that crap."

This is hair-splitting.

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I'm not Shapiro's biggest fan, I appreciate what he's doing here. While Carano didn't navigate Twitter in the smartest way when she became controversial, she certainly was never what people are accusing her of (transphobic, anti-Semetic, etc.).

I am bummed that she's out of Star Wars, because that will effect a show I enjoy. No matter how people try to spin it, they are going to have to adjust the storyline to accommodate the loss of the character. If the rumors have any credibility, it seems the plans were for her to have a pretty big part in all of it. So it's not just a small adjustment.

As for the Daily Wire providing a movie-making alternative to Hollywood, it depends how they go about it. If they just try to make conservative themed films, the movies will go the way of faith-based Pureflix films (e.g. God's Not Dead) and Hollywood won't give a shit. If they just focus on making good movies, they may actually shake up the system a bit.

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Agreed. The alternative to Hollywood shouldn't be differently flavored political movies.

They should be either just good fun or thought provoking movies (not every movie has to be a pop-corn one). However, they should be politically neutral. People are sick of entertainment being just political/religious propaganda.

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I think what you'll see is that the films will subtly reinforce conservative values, with the ideology carefully woven into the themes of the stories.

Did you see Run Hide Fight?

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I haven't seen it yet. But if it's as obvious as it was in Dragged Across Concrete, they won't get far....

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but DAC had a black man as the main character

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So?

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Nope. I feel curious, though. I'm gonna watch it. I checked the trailer and it seemed to pander both sides, pandering the left with the bad guys being male and the mc being a female, and pandering the right with some slightly military feeling.

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I would say that assessment isn't totally off-base. Give it a watch. I liked it.

Daily Wire did not actually produce this film. They only distributed it. If they get into actual production--as I think they will be with Gina's project--it's going to be really interesting to see what the results are.

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They just released their first film a few weeks ago -- produced by another company but distributed by Daily Wire. Have you heard of it? It's called Run Hide Fight.

Here's a trailer:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kh3jccZocc

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Trailer looks like a promo piece for 2nd Amendment rights. Not saying it can't be good, but it's only going to appeal to a certain audience.

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As I said earlier, I think the films will "subtly reinforce conservative values." So in this respect, I think you have correctly judged the situation.

Still, I think it's a movie first--a piece of entertainment--and a propaganda piece second. I watched it and it's actually quite well-made.

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The trailer isn't subtle. No one left of center would watch that film based on that trailer.

They need to make good movies where the only "agenda" is to make a good movie. Only then will they have a chance to make a dent in the problem.

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How would neutral films have an influence one way or another?

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Because if there's an alternative to Hollywood that appeals to wide audiences, it removes the power from Hollywood to cancel celebrities who go against the narrative. It may even attract celebrities away from Hollywood if the films are good enough....

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I see your logic there.

What I do know is that we definitely need an alternative to the ultra-political, Leftist Hollywood machine. Even mere neutrality would be a nice change of pace at this point, yes.

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I agree with that, but I would settle for a reduction in the titillating sexual content. A couple of years ago, my husband and I were watching a miniseries and two teenage boys started making out. Both of us are heterosexual but the way it was filmed was designed to be titillating and it was quite explicit. It just was so inappropriate (even if the actors were adults, the characters were meant to be teenagers) and manipulative of the viewer. I don't want to watch material that throws near-p(rn at me when I am just hoping to see a nice detective show. I would love to have an option where I could be confident that a nice detective show was going to be just a nice detective show.

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You know.... these days, the Hollywood has gone so woke, that if you make films similar to films from 15-20 years ago, and they are successful, you'll shake the system a fair bit.

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Yes. Like I said, just make good movies.

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My understanding was that Daily Wire is not planning to be like Pureflix (though I have nothing against Pureflix). You have to allow characters to be flawed and to do things wrong in narratives, otherwise the narratives don't work as stories. You can't punish every bit of wrongdoing in a story or make them overly moralistic because, again, then they fail to work as stories. You have to let people do wrong things in stories (as, actually, people do in the Bible all the time! The Bible is full of terrible people, which actually makes it quite a gripping read, except for all the "begats."). So I doubt Daily Wire will fall into that trap.

At the same time, I think two things will work against them. First, the conservative/religious audience is splintered in a way that I don't think the progressive audience is, because there are areas where their theologies differ and they are really invested in those points of difference! I think it will be difficult to create shows that will be tolerated by a big enough subset of religious viewers to recoup their investment. Second, IMHO, corporations have it in for anything conservative (this is my perception). Ryan Anderson's book about gender ideology is no longer available on Amazon; same with Carrie Gress's book about feminism. (Such removals have a significant effect on the bottom line of authors and publishers because Amazon has so much of the market share now.) Parler was de-platformed by their access to servers being removed. Elsewhere, there have been cases where banks refused to allow organizations to have bank accounts. The Democrats are trying to get conservative news organizations de-platformed by carriers unless they hew to a Dem-decided version of "the truth." I doubt that a conservative entertainment company will be allowed to exist. I think that is pretty terrible but I'm just one person.

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If Run Hide Fight is any indication of the content they'll be making, they're already on the Pureflix path....

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Daily Wire didn't make it. They just distributed it.

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My point still stands.

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True, but this could be a function of who is willing to sell content to them rather than of what sort of content they are willing to buy.

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the critical issue at hand, not caring what SHE thinks, or what DISNEY did, is that some ONE person misinterpretting ANYTHING you say online, could get you deleted from your life.

THAT is some scary 1984 shit, that we ALL need to put a stop to right now.

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Agreed. And in fact, since you reference 1984, I'll mention that I think it is one of the most relevant texts to our current era and we should ALL be reading it. Nay, not merely reading it, but studying it and its themes intently.

I often think that social media has been an overall net negative for society and wish we could roll back to a time before Facebook and Twitter.

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right there with you. I do feel this craziness is allowed because people like me don't bother pointing it out or speaking up against this new practice. well, that ends now. I will be voicing this everywhere. it's not racist, it's not offensive to anyone, its not bullying, it's just politely explaining that cancel culture WILL cancel our culture and humanity if we DON'T speak up now, for our freedom to be flawed human beings with opinions that dont always match up. Like it has been since man first walked the earth.

My close friends are about to get annoyed with my new loudness about a thing. :)

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I support that.

It feels like these days it's the loudest ones in the room who get their way and the Leftist have been the loudest ones for a little while now. And somehow their Marxist thought--from which this era of "cancel culture" springs--has infiltrated all eras of life--the media, the entertainment industry, our universities, the government and so on.

It's time for the other side to get loud.

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yes it is. that is US

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