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There are many religions being practiced today. Do you concern yourself with the Muslims being right, or Jews, or Mormons...

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You do? Does it keep you up at night worrying that you aren’t obeying the right Holy Book?

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Well, I'm about as concerned about Christians being right as you are about Muslims or Mormons being right.

Not at all, that is.

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Wow, I feel like a positive conclusion to a religious question was actually reached for the first time in he history of the internet.

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No.

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Do you ever think about if you had been born in India, you would most likely be Hindu and believe that you had the truth whilst Christians in the West are lost?

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The point I was trying to make is that people of other faiths are just as convinced that they have the truth when it’s largely due to where you were born and what you are raised as.

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Just curious, where in the Bible Does it say that?

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Not a single one of those verses say ‘anything’ like being spared judgement if you are born into another faith.

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So convert or burn. That doesn’t remind me of a mob boss AT ALL.

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Because people should not be punished for using their intellect, that’s not a crime. It’s not devastating to me because I don’t believe it, what bothers me is that you justify the never ending torture of people for not believing in your god. It’s SICK.

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You WORSHIP a god that tortures people eternally for not believing in him and you are just fine with that . . .you don’t even question the morality of something so horrific. Accept my gift or BURN! That sounds a lot like the morality of Middle Eastern men than a perfect and moral god.

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Who says God is morally excellent? Or that God exists, at all.

Someone who describes my good deeds as filth can hardly be called moral, let alone morally excellent. Sounds more like an ignorant, angry prehistoric guy, than the creator of quarks and leptons and billions of stars.

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Who says Bible came from God? MY good deeds are good for other humans, sometimes at the expense of mine, as well as other animals and beings. What kind of fair judging god would call those good deeds as filth? How does someone who believes that live with themselves?

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Where does God say the Bible came from God?

A good deed done with good intentions is still a good deed. A true god should have known that.

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I'm not talking about that. I'm asking you where God says the Bible came from God, and you say in the Bible God says Bible came from God. Next logical question is who says that in the Bible God says the Bible came from God, and you will answer that God says that in the Bible God says the Bible came from God.

So let's skip that question and let me ask this: Where does God say that in the Bible God says the Bible came from God?

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Then how do you differentiate the Bible from all the other false books humans have written but claimed to have come from God?

What happens if i come to your door with a written note that says it is the word of God and you should gift your car to me?

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Yes i would, that's why you have to repent and accept Xenu as your only Lord and savior.

He wants me to tell you that he lives inside an active volcano and if you leave the false gods behind and hereby declare that you accept him as the only true creator, will take you to his spaceship and fly you over to paradise.

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So what? What makes bible more real than Xenu's story?

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That's the same the other way around.

Anyways, may you have a long and prosperous life. Peace :)

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That's quite a reach you have there. A deranged lunatic will probably not do anything for the sake of charity.

But in the case of someone who is otherwise harmless, for instance someone who drinks on the weekend, it is ridiculous to believe in an unjust God who will ignore this guy's helping the poor.

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You digress. You still haven't answered how a so-called just god can ignore a good man's deeds because he has a drink here and there.

And why did some dude die for our "sins"? And are we supposed to owe him for something?

And, if he is the son of the god and he also is the god at the same time (which is, in case you failed to notice, insane), then how is him dying any kind of sacrifice? Me scratching my ass when it itches is a bigger sacrifice than an immortal god dying on the cross.

How can you believe a creator who supposedly created the laws of physics to have a such a nonsense backstory?

I'm sorry, you are free to believe any kind of utterly ridiculous bullshit, just don't keep trying to sell it to people with reasoning skills and functional brains.

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There you go again. If there was an honest, morally just god, he would not spit on a person's good deeds just because he consumed alcohol, or watched porn or blasphemed (read: used his brain). If you can't understand that, you are beyond help.

It is insane because splitting into multiple personalities that converse and interact with each other belongs in an asylum. Why would god want to become human and "die for our sins" (which serves no purpose btw) and cry out (to himself lol) why he had forsaken him? Nowadays, you can see more logically sound people in mental care facilities.

And no, it is not a sacrifice to die on the cross if you are the immortal, invulnerable creator of the universe.

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A drunk may show compassion to some being in need of help. Your moral compass can't. Your moral compass is inferior to a kind hearted drunk.

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It’s a heinous crime to not believe in your god? Because that’s all that is required for him to send a person to eternal torment according to the Bible.

I have more morality than your god because I don’t believe in slaughtering children and infants or taking virgin girls from their murdered tribe as a sex slave.

1 Samuel 15: 3Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.

Numbers 31:17So now, kill all the boys, and kill every woman who has had relations with a man, 18but spare for yourselves every girl who has never had relations with a man.

I have enough morality to know how despicable that is and yet you are perfectly fine with it from your ‘morally excellent’ god.

Absolutely disgusting.

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What did those children do to deserve vengeance? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that you are okay with the rape and murder of children but that doesn’t make it less repulsive.

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Yeah, I'm certain those girls WANTED to have sex with the men who slaughtered their families. As for the slaughter, its okay with you because the infants would go to Heaven?

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To illustrate my point that your religion is immoral.

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Yes Jinx, apparently, God is a prick and hates your guts for using your brain. (Ho-hum 69:24-7)

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It’s infuriating just how toxic religion is and how believers will defend the most heinous acts in the name of it.

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Exactly, there is no moral bottom for people who claim to follow what should have been "the ultimate moral beacon".

And, they have zero arguments when they are asked what makes their violent religion right and the all other violent religions wrong.

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The good news is that everybody has a chance to convert, which is why I am here talking to you now.

That is exactly what Jinx says. Either you accept two thousand year old tales as facts and let them organize every aspect of your life (that is akin to pushing a cube through a smaller circular hole), or you deserve eternal punishment, regardless of your contributions to humanity or your kindness and charity against all beings.

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I don't believe Mormons are Christians. Their religion was founded by a false prophet Joseph Smith who lived in the 1800s. Over 90% of their religion is based on the Book of Mormon; the book Joseph Smith created. Joseph Smith claims that the Book of Mormon is another testament/ book of Jesus Christ. That's not true. The Bible even warns against false prophets and said "Whoever adds to this book (meaning the Bible) shall be taken from the tree of life." Joseph Smith added words and another book to the Bible which the Lord warned us against. Joseph Smith was a fraud and a trickster. Their only claim to Christianity is that they believe in Jesus but, their beliefs are way far fetched from the real teachings of the Bible.

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How can the Bible say "whoever adds to this book..." when the Bible wasn't a book until it was compiled from various texts around 400AD ?

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Oh dear, the God of the gaps strikes again.

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The Bible was completed when the New Testament was completed after Matthew, Mark, John and Luke followed Jesus. Meaning that if someone adds additionally another book to the Bible (such as Joseph Smith created another aka The Book of Mormon), it's not the true word of God. Joseph Smith created the Book of Mormon in the 1800s long after the Bible was completed...

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No the Bible was "completed" as you say hundreds of years after the Gospels were written.

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Regardless of when the Bible was finished is not the issue. The Bible is the word of God and that's it. The Book of Mormon was a book created by a boastful trickster and a con man (Joseph Smith) and is a complete farce and a falsehood.

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Regardless of when the Bible was finished is not the issue.

You are wrong, it is exactly the issue. The Bible could not have been referred to as a book hundreds of years before it was compiled and became a book.


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This is such lazy thinking. God is magic therefore God explains everything.

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Dan Brown isn't right

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Which parts of it? The Bible is incredibly contradictory.

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If you don't mind my saying that is a silly question to ask.

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Why do some Christians talk about evolution when they don't believe it's true ?

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Wasn't that your question? You asked atheists "if Christianity is right, would you be concerned at all about how you lived your life, your non-belief and how you would be judged?" My initial thought is that I have no idea how I'll be judged because The Bible, a.k.a. the rulebook of Christianity, contains many contradictory elements.

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Why can't the Bible be true sometimes and not true at others ? Why this all or nothing position ?

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That is a circular argument. You might look into reading up on critical thinking. I could be described as an agnostic Christian myself so I am not trying to undermine Christianity. But insisting every word in the Bible is THE TRUTH really makes things very difficult.


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Perhaps I should have said a secular Christian which is the common term I think. A small "c" christian by cultural absorption.

And it's not true to say of the Bible that "either you believe it or you don't". That is a dogmatic position which is to say a position where a person has painted themselves into a corner. If one thing in the Bible can be shown to be untrue then the whole thing collapses.


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Soooo many places.

Act 5:30 - The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you had killed by hanging Him on a tree.

Luke 23:33 - When they came to the place called the Skull, they crucified him there, along with the criminals—one on his right, the other on his left.

Which is it? Was he hung or crucified?

If we're talking specifically rules:

Ephesians 2:8,9 - For by grace are ye saved through faith…not of works.

James 2:24 - Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Do I focus on works, or shoot for grace?

Let's go straight to the boss, or to his son, anyway:

Matthew 26:52 - Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

Luke 22:36 - Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Do I need a sword?

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All I would have to do is ask for forgiveness.

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If christian god was real, he would have had to ask me for forgiveness.

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Haha, good one!

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that's a big if.

if Christianity is merely a doctrine built atop a fable, how would that change your values - would you turn into a raging savage?

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You can't ask this question to agnostics, because we have no opinion. It all may be right, it all may be wrong...we don't care either way.

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It would depend on the situation...and we wont know until it happens.

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Nope, and that's best part of being agnostic... I don't have to think nor worry about until it happens, if it ever happens while I'm alive.

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Athiest here.

If god is real, then we are taught he loves us all. Shouldn't matter what our earthly choices are. Its a bit judgemental otherwise.

The basis of most religions, in a nut shell, is to treat others as you wish to be treated and just generally be a good kind person.

I totally agree, and live my like it. I dont need a book preached at me to do that.

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When I used to go to sunday school. Stopped believing when I was 6.

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I stopped believing when I was 11.

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No where in the Bible does it state that god loves unconditionally.

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I've never read it so I wouldn't know. Just going off what I was told as a kid.

Wait, you mean that wasn't true either? 😏

I've no prejudice against religion whatsoever, just dont preach to me. If I'm wrong and getting judged when I die then that's all my own doing and I'll fully accept it ✌

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I'm not preaching, just stating a fact. Nothing more. Kids are fed a lot of bullshit that isn't true. ;)

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It's a story made up by people to make themselves feel better and to control others. To this day, it's told to the gullible masses by guys in funny costumes. I have nothing to worry about. After I die, I'll be nonexistent, and so will you.

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How pious of you Billy.

This is why people have trouble with bible thumpers.

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Like Trump/Russia collusion.

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With all the cherry-picking going on, Christians should sure as hell be worried, lol.

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