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If John Kerry had beaten George W. Bush in 2004 Obama would never have been elected.


Odds are that Kerry would have been a one-termer. McCain would have likely won in 2008. He would have been a one-termer too because of his Liberal leanings alienating Republicans. Obama's window of opportunity would have closed by 2012 and Hillary likely would have gotten elected and also served one term only to be beaten by Trump in 2016.

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If his people hadn't exposed Jeri Ryan and her husband's private life he probably wouldn't have been elected either.

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If a frog had wings...

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So 3 one termers in a row? First of all Kerry DID beat Bush; there was election fraud in Ohio. 2nd Kerry would have been a 2 termer, and then maybe Obama. McCain was the Reptiles' last hope. Now they are finished as a party.

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Sorry kid but Kerry did not win, Bush won fair and square and it’s almost always the left who tries to steal elections just like when Hillary had death threats sent to electors from states President Trump won.

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Kerry won in Florida, and may have done better in other states as well. The voting machines were certainly tampered with in Florida, while voter suppression and gerrymandering were used in many states, and it all went Bush's way. The Republican majority in the Supreme Court, against all precedent, ended the recounts early and gave Bush the victory.

As far as the Democrats or Republicans, they both do it. The DNC had rigged the primaries for Clinton and Biden in 2016 and 2020. It is hard for them to cry foul when it is done in the general.

If you believe there is a huge difference between the Democrats and Republican party elites, you are mistaken. They are funded by the same corporations and oligarchs, and the differences are small. America has an illusion of democracy, and there are no winners - except those corporations and oligarchs that can fund the parties with huge donations (bribes).

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Looking back at how worthless W’s second term was it might have been a good thing. We could’ve avoided the 8 year Obama recession.

“Is this where I get me hunting license? - John Kerry”

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Is COVID19 giving deplorables the equivalent of the Mandela-effect with regards to Obama? LOL

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Kerry would have still have the Great Recession to deal with and he'd probably get the Repubes to go along and bail out the banks. Trump would have been on board and supported Kerry in this regard as well so his current manifestation would never occur. Hillary would be an obscure outlier since the Democratic brand would be just as tarnished by the market crash as it was on the Republicans.

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