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Do black people even like this guy?


I doubt if black people will even vote for him after that shit he said about slavery being a choice. Though I won't put it past black americans to vote for him based solely on the color of his skin.

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What's Kanye running for?

My son loves his "music". I'm old school big band and Motown, so his stuff sounds like noise to me.

I admit I voted for Obama in 08 because I couldn't help myself. I never thought I'd see a black president in my lifetime. I wish my grandmother saw that. I'm sure most of us did the same.

I didn't vote for him in '12 because the party moved left from underneath my feet and continues to do so more each day.



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Maybe Kanye is running FROM, as in from the Kardashians! Who knows?

But a fellow Motown fan! I love that old music. (I like the way you put Kanye's "music" in quotes. ha!) I haven't heard any good, new music in decades. There are no singers like the ones we had. No one, and I mean NO ONE, can touch David Ruffin's voice or musical skills. NO ONE writes music like Smoky. It makes me cry.

I pity today's generation. They don't know what good music IS! They have been sold on shallow crap for so long that they think it is actually good.

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There’s still a lot of good music being made today, you just have to look for it rather than sit on your ass and listen to the radio.

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Well then Nicko, please point me to some good music that is being made today!

Seriously, I like good music, but I have not heard a good band, group, duo or single artist who can even begin to hold the microphone of the talents from the fifties, sixties, seventies and eighties.

If I am "on my ass ", it's because when I turn on the radio in my car, I am sitting DOWN. LOL

I have listened to the radio in my house, VH1, MTV, etc. and nothing has impressed me so far in the last twenty years. Other people play their music for me too. But it's hip hop and I can't stand that stuff, especially the way it refers to women. Maybe I am an old fogey, but disrespecting women and cursing which is supposed to pass for "lyrics" is not for me.

I'd like to listen to talented musicians. So where do I find them? Seriously. Point me in the right direction.

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No one, and I mean NO ONE, can touch David Ruffin's voice or musical skills.


I cannot believe you mentioned David Ruffin! Two weeks ago, a single song lyric popped in my head. I spent all day trying to search lyrics on the web. All I had was the three notes at the end of the chorus with the falsetto "breaks my heart". I searched lyrics for that snippet. Unfortunately, there are almost an unlimited number of songs that use that lyric or some close form of it, and I gave up.

Today, my wife and I were out in the car doing errands, and because it's a holiday week, Sirius is free (we don't subscribe). We were listening to 70s on 7 channel and Walk Away From Love came on. I haven't heard this song in maybe 30 years, had the snipped pop in my head two weeks ago and couldn't find it, and today I heard the song again.

Some young folks understand good music. My youngest son is a musician and singer, and he knows all the Motown as well as half or more of the American Standards book. I'm not sure there are many Sinatra or Cole songs he doesn't know. He also writes "beats" for his young friends who are aspiring hip-hop artists. Not sure what a "beat" is but they love what he does.




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Wow! Coincidence. You could've asked me. I have that song on a CD, David Ruffin "The Ultimate Collection".

Some of my favorites on the CD are "My Whole World Ended (The Moment You Left Me), I've Lost Everything I've Ever Loved, Pieces of a Man, and Statue of a Fool.

The beauty of his voice brings me to tears. I also cry because this whole young generation has no idea who he is.

My son was also a musician (sort of). He started studying guitar when he was eight. He played with small (local) bands. He went to music school, but it was too hard to make a career out of it. Now he's a nurse, still plays guitar though!

Is your son a name I'd recognize?

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LOL, if I said there was an old song and all I could remember was "breaks my heart" without giving you the artist, would you have known it was Ruffin? There was an episode of Married With Children when Al was trying to remember a song and all he knew was a couple of notes. He finally learned the song, bought the record, placed it carefully on a pillow on his coffee table to get a box to put it in, and one of Kelly's idiot boyfriends came in and put his feet up on the table...

Is your son a name I'd recognize?


No. Maybe someday, but it won't be as a performer. He's been working with a singer for about a year on a demo album. My son wrote most of it, plays every instrument on it, and they are recording the demo in sessions lasting a couple of hours one or twice a month. The singer has actually opened for big acts in Brazil but is hoping for a record deal. My son works a regular job and only plays in bands for fun.

Who knows what will happen.

My father was a musician before WWII and he was worried when my oldest brother became very proficient with the trumpet by 10 years old. He played in our city's symphony for a year. My dad was thrilled when he just stopped playing to take up other pursuits than young men take up because my dad knew that there were hundreds of thousands of top quality musicians who struggled just to eat, no matter how good they were. More of a matter of luck than talent in many cases.


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I wish your son a lot of luck. The music business is like every other part of show biz. You really have to have that 'fire' in the belly to make it. Talent helps of course! But the competition is so stiff.

LOL Recognizing a song from three words? Well, no. I would need a hint, like the singer's name.

I sometimes remember a bit of lyrics from a song and it takes me a while to remember it.

This reminds me of a specific incident in high school. One morning my best friend asked me if I knew what song had a particular opening. She said the lyrics and I could NOT place it!

It was a Stevie Wonder song, definitely before 1975. It was so familiar but we could not remember the song. It was one of those rare intros where the first few lines are spoken, not sung.

Took us days to remember it. Now I can't remember it at all. I've been trying to remember all morning. Thanks a lot for bringing up this topic buster! LOLOL

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LOL Recognizing a song from three words? Well, no. I would need a hint, like the singer's name.


This was literally me two weeks ago with trying to remember "Walk Away From Love" Funny scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EyadKDhgBU




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Well that's pretty presumptuous and condescending. I doubt this latest attention seeking scheme lasts more than a couple of weeks.

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He isn't wrong. Many slaves could have easily revolted had they been able to work together. Unfortunately, they were more interested being crabs in a bucket.

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Ok Kanye.

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So you think they were powerless? You should read up on history.

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Oh, there were slave revolts, and in the US none of them ended well (the slaves won in Haiti). The slave masters and their white allies had all the weapons, and used them.

As for Kanye, he's going to get exactly one vote, if he bothers to vote himself.

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You know why they failed? Because they were never unified. The slave owners would 'reward' those that ratted out the rest of the group.

Kanye is going to get way more than one vote. Jill Stein and Gary Johnson tainted the Green and libertarian parties in 2016, its going to take a few elections to recover.

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You know, now that I think about it, I don't think a slave revolt could ever have succeeded in the continental US, not in the long term. Even if the slaves in some black-majority region rose up and killed the masters and formed their own government, the white power structures of the 18th or 19th century would never have let them get away with it - even the people who were against slavery would have been horrified by the presence of a black revolutionary state on their continent. And the white power structure had armies and weapons. Yes, Toussant succeeded in Haiti, but that was an island and not a continent with a non-black majority, and they only got away with it because they made a financially crippling deal with France to avoid reconquest.

Anyway, I still think Kanye will just get one vote. Of course all his employees and hangers-on will claim they voted for him... and he'll fire them all when the tallies are in and nobody voted for him but himself.

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If all African-Americans were like Kanye I would definitely be a racist. Luckily he's a small minority of idiocy.

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like Kanye


Explain.

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I'm pretty sure he has a raging case of bipolar disorder, and he goes off his meds frequently because he loves the Mania. That's really common with bipolar people, life is so fun when you're manic, and so flat while on meds.

I don't think his issues have a damn thing to do with race.

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He's rich AF. Yes black people like him.

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Do any black people still like him now, now that he's attacking Harriet Tubman on top of everything else?

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No.

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