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Michelle Williams's 2020 Golden Globe speech


https://www.datalounge.com/thread/25293198-michelle-williams-s-2020-golden-globe-speech

Not only did she look and speak in her usual glass-eyed Stepford wife fashion, but she didn't even mention the series for which she won the award, nor her fellow cast members or the director; she starts out the speech by saying she is glad that she is "recognized for her choices" before going into an abortion diatribe and trying to tie into the success of her career—which, good for her—but an odd choice?


https://www.vox.com/culture/2020/1/5/21051186/watch-michelle-williams-golden-globes-2020-acceptance-speech-abortion-rights-choice

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/alexa-moutevelis/2020/01/05/pregnant-actress-shouts-her-abortion-golden-globes-tells

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/golden-globes-2020-watch-thread-nominees-presenters-how-to-watch.3105835/page-32#post-53541840

https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/14-the-annual-golden-globes-topic/page/84/#comments

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She’s a PHUCKKing parasite

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http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/2020/JAN.html

95. ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER 01/08 **8**

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/01/blind-item-8_8.html

One of the things that is just coming out about the A/A- list mostly movie actress who is seemingly an Oscar nominee every year is that she got pregnant the first time she hooked up with her new guy which is not what they were expecting or their respective spouses. Michelle Williams/Thomas Kail (Why Pregnant Michelle Williams and Thomas Kail’s Relationship Started Out ‘Messy’) https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/michelle-williams-thomas-kails-relationship-started-out-messy/

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Kill your child and you can be a successful Hollywood star! Absolutely sick.

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Just heard that.

It’s a real shame cuz she’s beautiful.

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Apparently winning a gold trophy is more important.

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Apparently reaching the pinnacle of your profession takes sacrifice.

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Never even heard of her until this. She's at the pinnacle of nothing.

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She's an extremely successful actress in an amazingly competitive field. If you've never heard of her you are not much of a movie buff. Do you just come on this site for the politics?

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"Do you just come on this site for the politics?"

The overwhelming majority do just that.

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I came to this site specifically to talk movies. I had no idea it had a political sub-forum.

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Same. And while I never go into the actual politics area, I must admit, I get baited by radical allegiance on the occasional individual thread. When all of the other monkeys are flinging shit, and the occasional brave soul tries to pepper you with some, it can be hard not to pick up a handful, yourself.

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Lay down with dogs.....

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Yep. And I find myself itching every now and then. The difference is - I know how to work a bottle of Dawn.

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LOL. I also clean up well.

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Charlie work - it never ends, friend.

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She worded her speech in a very odd manner. Technically, she didn't say that she has had an abortion. I'm wondering if she worded it very carefully to give off the impression that she was admitting to an abortion when she really wasn't.

Here's part of her speech with two parts highlighted:

"I'm grateful for the acknowledgement of the choices I've made and I'm also grateful to have lived in a moment in our society where choice exists, because as women and as girls, things can happen to our bodies that are not our choice. I've tried my very best to live a life of my own making, not just a series of events that happened to me but one that I could stand back and look at and recognize my handwriting all over, sometimes messy and scrawling, sometimes careful and precise, but one that I carved with my own hand.

I wouldn't have been able to do this without employing a woman's right to choose. To choose when to have my children, and with whom. When I felt supported and able to balance our lives knowing as all mothers know that the scales must and will tip towards our children. Now, I know my choices might look different than yours." But thank God or whomever you pray to that we live in a country founded on the principle that I am free to live by my faith and you are free to live by yours.

Now, notice that she first said "I wouldn't have been able to do this without employing a woman's right to choose", then qualified it by adding "To choose when to have my children, and with whom." Here, all she outright states is that she couldn't have made it to where she has in her career without "employing her right" to be able to choose when and with whom to have her children. She doesn't state how she "employed" her ability to make this choice. Contraception? Abortion? Both? She deliberately doesn't say.

Then she states "I know my choices might look different than yours". So they "might" look different. So maybe they also might not? And who are the "you" she is referring to? "Might" her choices look different from those of women who chose not to have abortions? Or to those who choose to have them? Again, her wording is deliberately vague. Vague enough that I'm too suspicious to take the speech at face value.

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That's true, it was vague. But it is very clear she supports abortion if the child gets in the way of a career.

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It was intentionally vague because deep down she knows how terrible it would sound had she explicitly said that she wad an abortion.

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I watched it live and most of what she said went right over my head, how she worded it. It was only after the twitter outrage that I went back and picked it apart and I think that is what she was saying.

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She thinks that winning a little gold ornament is more important than human life. These people and their values are disgusting.

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Her speech was ridiculous. She didn't actually thank anyone, she sounded extremely rehearsed, she obviously planned this occasion solely as an opportunity to make a political stand, and it didn't strike me as the time or the place. It was especially hard to see the point of that speech considering she didn't mention any abortion of her own.

It was a very strange lead-in - if the HFPA are giving me this award, it means they are approving of my choices. Who gives a f about her personal choices, how would they have even known??


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Super rehearsed. She knew she was winning that award. It struck me funny because she was a year or two late. We've already done all this, you missed your window. Nobody else was piling on with her like a year or two ago. Like the drunk crazy person who crashes a party that's already over.

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"It was especially hard to see the point of that speech considering she didn't mention any abortion of her own."

It's hard to tell. She worded her speech in a deliberately vague way that might or might not be referring to her having had an abortion. (I detailed this a few posts above in this thread).

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Yeah, I am sure the HFPA had no way of knowing either way (also don't see why they would have cared either way), thus making her "approving of my choices" argument entirely inapplicable.


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A shame none of the celebrities listened to Ricky and just took the trophy, said thanks and thing fucking left.

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As seen on Reddit: Michelle Williams' Globes speech

https://i.redd.it/tedimfy41y941.jpg

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Brilliant! Really hits hard though...

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I agree. Any person whos focus is on killing babies has something wrong with them. She is actually championing killing babies. She may have just said "Kill your babies."

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Pretty much. I will never understand the casual stance leftists have when it comes to killing babies, some (many?) even arguing a mother should be able to kill a baby RIGHT BEFORE giving birth... some even go further and say it should be "the mothers choice" if the kid gets to live AFTER being born.

these people scare me, honestly. These fucked up people drive cars, vote, have workplace responsibilities...

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A fetus isn't a baby.

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Of course not... at least not when we want to kill it. This has been established now, you can stop repeating your doctrine like the NPC that you are.

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When does a fetus become a "baby" exactly per you, pray tell?

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When is can survive out of the womb.

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So then tell me why it's considered a double homicide when a pregnant woman is killed?

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Because the mother was murdered? Don't ask me ask a lawyer. I don't make laws.

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Yeah, the mother is one homicide and what is the other homicide for, pray tell?

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Oh I get your angle and I agree with the law. I also firmly believe a woman should have the right to receive an abortion.

Have a nice day, Sandy.

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So the law considers killing an unborn baby as murder and you AGREE with the law. Thus, by your own admission, abortion is murder.

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When the future mother is murdered, yes. It's not that hard to wrap your head around. You just want that "gotcha" moment. Sorry for the letdown, Sandy. Have a nice day.

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Ignorance is Strength especially when you incriminate yourself and your argument falls apart, yes?

If you don't believe abortion is murder, then the death of a pregnant woman should only be considered as a single homicide since the unborn baby is not alive yet, yes?

Yet, you AGREE WITH THE LAW, and the murder of a pregnant woman is a double homicide. One for the mother and one for the unborn child, even though you believe the child is not a life yet, yes? So why is killing an unborn child a homicide if it isn't a life yet, pray tell?

Your hypocrisy is endless. Your Ignorance is endless even when it comes out of your own mouth. Clearly, you're not too smart, are you? Then again, what else is new?

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You have a hard time differentiating two totally different situations. I'm done with you for now. Your total lack of understanding context and verbal assaults on me is boring and predictable. Pound sand.

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The situations are different, but the results are the same. Yet, in one instance you consider it murder, but on the other you don't. Why? Willful Ignorance. And we know for you that Ignorance is Strength. Then again, what else is new, yes?

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A person dead from cancer and a person being stabbed to death has the same result as well. Context is hard for simpletons. Poor Sandy. Again, pound sand.

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Abortion is not the same as dying from natural causes or due to an illness. It's done VOLUNTARILY by the hands of another. You know, like MURDER. That's why it's called a HOMICIDE, dunce. Talk all you want, your WILLFUL IGNORANCE is a fact. But then again, what else is new?

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"Homocide" is a legal construct. Abortion does not qualify. It is you that is willfully ignorant.

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I misspoke. You are just ignorant.

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Why do you keep responding? You said you were done, but like a cockroach, you keep coming out when the lights are turned off, but whatever.

Is abortion similar at all from dying due to natural causes or illness? If so, how? If not, why did you even make that correlation to begin with other than Ignorance and stupidity?

You know what the colloquial term for homicide is, right? MURDER. Did you see me mention that in my previous post, or did your willful IGNORANCE prevent you from reading that too? Rekt much?

Really, you should just shut up because you are only making yourself look dumber by the second. But then again, what else is new?

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When the mother decides she wants to keep it, if she wants to kill it, it's a fetus.

It's all about magical thinking when you're a broad, princesses one and all.

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She was highlighting the fact that the U.S. gives a woman the choice. She wasn't "celebrating" killing babies you dolt. To come to that conclusion you have to mischaracterize what she said.

Do we as a society want to go back to the days of back-ally abortions? Making it illegal will not stop the practice, it will just endanger the woman.

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Its a movie awards show, I dont want to be preached to or propagandized. Whats so hard to understand about that? Like Ricky said...

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Then don't watch. You have free will, right? Awards shows are stupid anyway. It's just a bunch of people patting themselves on the back.

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I didnt, yet I still complain. Lol. I am a paradox. :-)

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We all are in our own ways. No worries. Thank you for addressing me with manners even though we seem to be on different ends of this argument.

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Absolutely! Respect to you. I just don't agree with the glorification of abortion.

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Abortion should not be glorified. It is a very serious decision not to be taken lightly. I also feel strongly that the procedure should be legal and readily available.

You watching the Nat'l champ game tonight? The NFL playoff games have been great so far! Good time to be a football fan.

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My Ravens lost man. I am really bummed that they didnt even compete or make it interesting. The Titans destroyed us. Its ok though I am over it. There is always next year and we have a talented young QB but it sux cause I was expecting to watch 2 more Ravens games this year and now I have to wait 7 months to see them again.

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Wow that was brutal for you! Don't worry the Ravens have a window of a few years where they can compete for a SB. The Titans put together a great game plan to stop Jackson and when they had the lead all they had to do was hand it to Henry who is the best RB in the league right now.

If it makes you feel better I'm a Raider fan. How's that for perspective?!?

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Lol, oh man. I feel your pain. Arent they moving to Vegas? Maybe a new start in a new city is what they need.

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New location and a brand new stadium can't hurt. Mayock(our GM) had a great first draft so the team is trending upwards. We will see.

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Right on. I hope to see your guys doing well.

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The league benefits when the Raiders are good. Fans love them with a passion. Haters are just as rabid. It helps viewership. And thanks for the encouragement.

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One of the best logos too. Maybe THE best. I hope they don't even consider changing it.

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Yeah it's a classic! No way it ever changes. Thanks. What's your team?

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Don't really have a pro team that I pull for; I watch them all. I just follow my guys from Alabama (my college team) really closely. So, it's nice seeing all of my guys, especially Henry, have such great seasons. Really excited for the draft, to see where Tua goes.

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I have a close friend attending Alabama now. That football program is a farm system! I hope the Raiders draft Jeudy if CeeDee Lamb is not available. Tua will probably be a Dolphin which will be fun to watch.

Who are you pulling for tonight? I'm assuming you are going SEC with LSU. I'm an ACC guy so Clemson for me, although I think LSU will win(probably big).

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Yeah, CeeDee is something. Jeudy is a good one, too. It's really hard to find a cleaner route runner, especially in college, but he has had problems with drops. He'll run a picture perfect route and then put it on the ground. It's not so bad that you wouldn't take the chance though. Everyone knows him and Ruggs, but I think Waddle will really be the one to watch in the pros. Even if he's just a return specialist. I usually hate the term "x-factor", but he just does things that blow your mind. He's just had so much talent in front of him. And, Smith is underrated, IMO. He's the "old reliable" type. He doesn't have the flash of the others, but he has great hands and is clutch. He'll make some QB look better.

As for tonight, yeah, SEC, LSU, yada yada. lol Still bummed about all of our injuries and the way we lost our two games, but... Back in the spring, I told friends and family that I wouldn't be surprised at a 10-2 season, and most of them laughed at me. Most people just kind of run their mouth about it and don't actually watch as close as I do though lol. I knew from all of the early LB injuries that it would probably be a tough year. I didn't know that, despite such an injured defense and (later) losing our offensive MVP, we would be ten points and a few more than questionable calls away from 12-0. That really made it tough.

Back on point though - I always pull for the team that beat us to win it, if possible; it just looks good that we were banged up badly, yet only lost to the champs by five. And, I really want Dabo to come on over and Saban become the AD, at some point in the future. I'm afraid that if he keeps having so much success at Clemson, he might not. He might not, as is.

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Of course I am going to assume drug abuse and a case of chronic mono.

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"Rather than empowering women, Williams is telling them that they won’t be able to fulfill their dreams without exercising the right to kill their own unborn children, that they must use violence against a vulnerable human being in order to get ahead...

In a speech of several minutes, Williams didn’t once say the word abortion, even as she asserted that, without having had one, she wouldn’t be where she is today.

The abortion debate exists not because a large faction believes women should be deprived of the “right to choose” but rather because of the choice in question: to end the life of a distinct human being. Abortion-rights supporters such as Williams aren’t part of the debate at all because they are intentionally deceptive about the heart of the argument."
- by Alexandra DeSanctis, staff writer for National Review
Full article: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-right-to-choose-what-michelle-williams/

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Killing babies is nothing to be proud of.

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She's proud to live in a society that gives a woman a choice as to what happens to their body. Don't mischaracterize what she said.

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She had the choice to not have sex in the first place and thus take the precautions to avoid getting pregnant.

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Females carry an extra burden when it comes to sex. I stand firmly with a females right to her body and her health.

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Killing a baby is killing a baby is killing a baby. No amount of fancy words or brain washing will ever change that.

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A fetus is not a baby.

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LOL. You funny man.

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It isn't.

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Screech louder.

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Just pointing out a fact. I know you guys don't like facts, but buck up and deal with it.

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Then why have "baby showers" long before the ""fetus"" is born?
How come it is "Oh! The baby is kicking!" and not "the fetus is kicking"?

Only when talking about KILLING it - it suddenly becomes... just a fetus.

Depriving the child of its humanity makes it easier to go through with the more convenient choice of killing it.

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People don't usually have baby showers for a fetus that is going to be aborted. And a fetus can't enjoy any of those gifts, LOL. It is only when that fetus is born and becomes a baby human being that is gets to wear those onesys and play with those baby rattles. In short, that was a weak ass argument.

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"I don't like your argument, so I just say it is weak and to throw some smoke I myself make the weakest argument one could think of, but that's okay because I am right and you are stoopid!"

Really? Killing a new life (baby, fetus, doesn't matter what term you need to make it easier on your conscience if you have any) is okay because when aborted, the child doesn't know what it's missing out on, essentially?

Baby showers are for the PARENTS you idiot. Of course the gifts are for the baby, because it is all about the baby and you make baby-related presents to show your anticipation for that BABY that is already in its MOTHERS belly.

Oh my fucking God, some leftists are beyond hope.

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You sound angry. Relax. We don't agree and that's OK.

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Thank you Buckswope......I think the speech was inappropriate for the time and place but everyone else is misrepresenting what she was actually trying to say. She was only talking about choice.
If they think she is too extreme they ought to be listening to their own words.

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It was an odd time to bring it up. But as you said people are misrepresenting her. Thanks for the comment.

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When will people understand that the phrasing "choice" is nothing but a synonym for extinguishing a new life that already exists?
Why are these Hollywood leftists never speaking about CHOICE when it comes to having sex in the first place? Answer me that. If you have sex with someone, a baby might be the consequence - so either accept this or don't have sex!

Killing it just because it is inconvenient is just horribly wrong, why cant you see that?

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"Choice" is Orwellian language as it means almost exactly the opposite nowadays. It's a coverup for the real meaning which they are not bold enough to say.

Now it might be hard for white women in America to understand, but in many parts of the world women literally don't have a choice. They are coerced and then eventually forced to have abortions for various reasons, particularly during the one-child policy in China. Women who were pregnant with a second baby would be followed and harassed on a daily basis by "community organizers" or something along those lines who would actually be in these women's workplaces to harass them and lead them towards the 'choice' of abortion. Can you imagine the outrage if we had such community organizers following women around in the street and going into their workplaces to harass them in a western country? That's the reality of 'choice' that women who aren't privileged enough to live in the developed world have to deal with, and that's what white American liberal women call "empowering." Disgusting.

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I want to thank you guys for helping me to see why the left has gone to such extremes when I thought the last 40-50 years had more than overcome past prejudices and lack of rights for certain groups of humans (I urge you all to do a little research of how things were historically before that time).
But you guys are the other side of that coin.
You are the very reasons for the other extremes.

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