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I didn't know who this guy was before, but what I do know now....


is that he's a Knucklehead!

That speech at the BET awards is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen in my life. He should be embarrassed about it for all eternity....Good God!

I graduated from the college of the streets, I gotta Phd in how to make ends meet.

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@iceman


He said all those things because he's also an activist involved in the Black Lives Matter movement---he just produced a documentary about them last month.

Explain yourself---exactly what the fck was stupid about his speech? No ONE damn thing was "stupid" Since when the hell is discussing police brutality toward black people, and criticizing white supremacy "stupid"? You're just a pissed off white person who thinks black people should shut the hell up and say ONE damn word about racism, as if it dosen't exist. Fck that---we're gonna talk about when it happens to us. We're not going to stay silent just because some ignorant-a** white punk like you dosen't want to hear about it. The problem with you and other white people is that y'all can't stand to hear that your precious America isn't this perfect place you're always tried to pretend it was---and it never has been. He simply spoke about what have been everyday realities for black people for decades, and a lot of us can relate to everything he said. The speech wasn't "stupid" just because YOU couldn't understand it. That's your damn problem, because it's not like he was saying anything black folks hadn't heard before----it's just new to you and other white folks who aren't used to hearing straight talk from black folks really challenging the status quo like that. He talked about issues that matter to US as a people. It's not "stupid" just because it's not about you, it's alll about us.


Another thing---how come white folks never try to look at certain issues from black people's points of view for a change, instead of getting all defensive and pissed off about the mere fact of racism being discussed? Would it kill y;all to do that for once. Aaah,never mind.



The only stupid person here is you because you obviously don't know anything about the issues he brought up, but instead of even trying to understand where he was coming from, you just call what he said "stupid" simply because you can't stand white folk getting criticized or critiqued about anything y'all do. And why the hell not? What the hell makes white folks so damn special they can't be critiqued on what they do and think? Especially since white folks have shoved their way of life and thinking practically don everybody's throats for the last 500 years or so ( which is what white supremacy is) Any little pinprick in the wall of white supremacy disturbs the hell out of your a****---no big damn surprise there.


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You see, speeches like the one that knucklehead gave, spawns knuckleheads just like you. What I'm going to do, is address ALL your points, and you will be just as embarrassed as that knucklehead should be.He said all those things because he's also an activist involved in the Black Lives Matter movement---he just produced a documentary about them last month. So what? I haven't seen it, but judging from his speech, it's incredibly dumb, and actually does more harm to black people. And if he's so involved in this black lives matters bs, why doesn't he attack the people who are killing black lives - black people? Oh, but that's not so politically correct, is it Jesse?Explain yourself---exactly what the fck was stupid about his speech? Well, he said this, and I quote:"This is for black women who have spent their lives dedicated to nurturing everyone before themselves. LOL. That is not only stupid, but that's a straight up, lie. Black women are some of the most selfish human beings on this planet. And it's also stupid because he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. He's a white boy raised by a white mother in privileged society. How does he know what black women do? I think you're just some pissed off black bitch who is so desperate for compliments, that you will believe anything that's complimentary, even if it's a lie!

And the stupidity continues....

He said something about how the police disarm and don't kill white people everyday. Well, stupid Jessie, if you would have looked at the statistics, you would know that the police kill more white people than black people. The people who are most killing black people, in record numbers, ARE BLACK PEOPLE. But it's not politically correct to think that, is it Jesse?

And don't worry, I got some more stupidity to add to your dumb ass....

I graduated from the college of the streets, I gotta Phd in how to make ends meet.

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...he said something about Tamir Rice's birthday, and how tragic it was that he died. Yes it was tragic, but what he failed to mention was that Tamir Rice was running around pointing what appeared to be a real gun at people. Instead of being at school, and under supervision by his MOTHER, he's running around playing stick up. So because of that, why didn't he encourage black families to be more responsible for their children? Because no one wants to hear that, do they Jesse? He also mentioned names of other black people killed by the police. Well, death is death, and as I mentioned before, black people are being killed by other black people in RECORD NUMBERS. Do you know any of the names of those vicitms, Jesse? Oh I forgot, nobody cares about black on black crime. Still, if black lives matter so much to him, you'd think he'd mention that, at least once, don't you? I mean, black people ARE THE ONES who are killing black people. How about telling black men to pull up their pants, not put tattos on their faces, get an education, and not act like thugs? Well, we all know the answer to that.

And I'm not done yet....

This dude is a half white boy, he ain't black. He don't even remotely look black! So how can he speak on behalf of black people? But knuckleheads like you say "yeah, yeah, Preach my brother" Because you despise your blackness, and wanna claim anyone with a drop of black blood, as being black. No other race does that. They appreciate the pure aspects of their race. Black people want to dilute it. This dude is just another white boy with a severe case of liberal white guilt, and it's nauseating.

I'm sure I can find more stupidity, if I watched it again, but all of that was off the top of my head.

And finally, why do knuckleheads like you think that anyone who doesn't agree with you, has to be white? Don't you know that asians hate you, mexicans hate you, self respecting black people hate you. Why do you think its only white people that hate you. Few people respect your silly ass pro-black, I"m a victim, cause. Gtf outta here with that nonsense.

So with that, I know you're dying to know what race I am. I'm not white, I'm black. So how stupid and embarrassed do you feel now?

I graduated from the college of the streets, I gotta Phd in how to make ends meet.

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@iceman-2


...he said something about Tamir Rice's birthday, and how tragic it was that he died. Yes it was tragic, but what he failed to mention was that Tamir Rice was running around pointing what appeared to be a real gun at people.

Okay, first of all, since you're not black, that shows your total lack of understanding of ANYTHING he said. It's not stupid to ME because as a black woman who's an activist myself, me and my colleaugues discuss the issues he talked about all the time, because they do affect out communities, and have had protests about the exact same subject he brought up. That's why I could relate to everything he said. Just because YOU didn't understand it dosen't make it stupid. He was talking about issues that pertain to US as black people---issues that are relevant to US. It's not about YOU,whatever the hell you are. And I don't care what color you are, you sound really ignorant claiming that talking about police brutality and racism is stupid. When he hell is it "stupid" to talk about those subjects. They're REAL and they have been happening to black people since we were first brought to this country in chains. Do you know anything about black history in this country, and the s** we went through and still have to, to some extent? Apparently, you don't, so why the hell do you even care. You sounds like an idiot going off about something you don't even understand, because it's coming from a black cultural point of view.


About Tamir Rice----Rice may have been tall for his age, but he was still a 12 year old CHILD. If you saw the video of what happened, the police drove up and literally shot Rice as soon as he jumped out of the car. He did not bother to tell Rice to put the gun down or anything liked he claimed---the video makes that pretty clear. Since when the hell does a policeman jump out of his car and start shooting point-blank at people without even seeing what the situation really is? That is NOT normal police protocol. The police should have stayed a few feet away, called to Rice with a bullhorn and told him to put the gun down. And then on top of that, they didn't even bother to give Rice first aid as lay on the ground bleeding. They wouldn't even let his mother and sister anywhere near him to help him out. It was said that if he'd gotten first aid right away, he would have survived. And the person who first called about Rice supposedly having a gun did, in fact, say that the gun might be fake, but somehow that was never told to the police officers.

The poilceman who shot Rice, an Officer Loehmann, as it turns out, had been forced to resign for the previous department he'd worked for because he kept fckg up on the job. His own supervisor told him that he wasn't fit to be a policeman at all, and ordered him to resign or he'd be fired. he was said to be possibly mentally ill and incapable of performing his duties. In other words, why was this guy able to get hired back on another police force, when he shouldn't even have been back on the street or in a uniform in the first place. It was his carelessness and stupidity that caused Rice's death, not the other way around. And one other thing---the police aren't supposed to just run up on someone with a gun, unless they want to get shot themselves. And as you can see in the video, Rice was clearly just playing around with his toy gun like ANY child would be doing with a toy. He wasn't doing ONE single damn thing that justified his being shot. Look at the video here:


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2014/nov/26/cleveland-video-tamir-rice-shooting-police



Here's an article about the case, since you obviously didn't bother to research it, like I did:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/when-a-12-year-old-boy-is-killed-by-police-and-no-one-is-accountable/2015/12/31/6970e528-afbd-11e5-b820-eea4d64be2a1_story.html



And Williams was giving props to black women for enduring and managing to raise families and keeping our communities strong and together despite all the hardships they have been through throughout history. When you call everything he said "stupid", you're basically saying that our issues are "stupid" and that my African American culture is "stupid" by extension. Fck you, you ignorant stupid fool. You just insulted me and black folks in general with the ignorant bull**** you spouted here. You don't know s*** about us, and you won't even open your narrow arrogant mind long enough to try and see from our point of view---you just made it all about you and your bull****. Just STFU and move the hell on.

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Iceman-15, have you noticed that activista says 'STFU' an inordinate amount?
It appears that she really doesn't want to have a discussion with anyone who doesn't share her beliefs 100%.
Her posts are not discussion oriented. Their entire content is devoted to telling off those who don't share her opinions. She then signs-off, ending her tirade in a dismissive STFU. How inclusive is that? And, how in the world is that productive?

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Yes I have. It's so common, that I've become numbed by it. If you don't share their views, there is no agree to disagree, or let's discuss this, it's either "STFU", or some vile name calling. Which basically tells me, they can't compete on topic, so that's all they have left

You see, until we can discuss all that stupidity that the knucklehead Jesse talks about, we must discuss this:http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/06/15/oakland-shooting-girl-dies-shot-to-death-gunfire-california/I've lived in Oakland, and know exactly where that location is. Don't you think Jesse would've mentioned that once? After all, it's very recent, certainly more recent than the Tamir Rice incident, and it's extremely tragic. But the problem is, a white person, or a police officer didn't commit the crime, so who cares. You see, to knuckleheads like Jesse, black lives only matters when it's taken by a white person, or the police. Which, of course makes him, not only a fool but, the worst kinda fool. He exacerbates the racial situation for personal gain. But black people, like this activista person, eat it all up. They love it. Unfortunately, the US is full of brainwashed knuckleheads just like her.

I graduated from the college of the streets, I gotta Phd in how to make ends meet.

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