Why Trump?

Without mentioning BIDEN, give reasons why TRUMP should be President.

(mirror of the other thread) Let's see what response we get.


Because he'll dissolve the Constitution and give the Capital to Qanon.


The Constitution was dissolved in 1871 when Grant and congress committed treason and betrayed our country and the people by selling the USA as a corporation.


You’re insane


We are exactly a corporation. Under the Constitution, many of the bureaucracies and intelligence services would be and are illegal. Under the Federal Reserve Act and it’s support corporations, we have in fact been recolonized. USA,Inc is listed as a colonial property in the City of London financial district which is a separate entity from the city of London proper. The incorporation of Washington DC, the fraudulent creation of the Internal Revenue Service and the surreptitious passage of the Federal Reserve Act accomplished by stealth what the combined powers of the royals and the international bankers could not do by force. If you, like many people, especially Americans, have been wondering why each presidency, with a few exceptions, seems to be a continuation of the last, now you know. The muppets-in-chiefs have simply been following orders. The same goes for the congressional muppets and the senatorial muppets. And by the way, the American Bar Association is also a corporation. So, there you have it, representative government has been gone for a long time and it’s not going to return until the American people educate themselves and unplug from the matrix of lies, treason, mass drugging and compartmentalization of the electorate with a series of specious contrived non-issues and of course the bi-partisan delusion. When the American people open their eyes and actually read and comprehend the precious gift of self-governance left to them by their founders and realize the great crime and deception perpetrated by the oligarchs and their minions, only then will the United States as conceived in the Constitution, once again exist.


Trump will continue his mission to make gun control (grabs) cool again.

Watch at 45 minutes. https://www.c-span.org/video/?441884-1/white-house-meeting-community-school-safety&fbclid=IwAR0xAwExW3Osl30FNdfLdm1Xhd3vyza1__CrEmLYFgImz7ogsCWXKfP6wn4
Trump gun grab. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2018-12-26/pdf/2018-27763.pdf
Title 27 Chapter II Subchapter B Part 478. https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-27/chapter-II/subchapter-B/part-478
Trump says he will ban bump stocks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38nPHaeYbtY

Yeah, I'm being sarcastic. Ever notice how MAGA's use typical democrat style anti-gun talking points to justify the Trump anti-gun agenda?


Yeah, I'm being sarcastic. Ever notice how MAGA's use typical democrat style anti-gun talking points to justify the Trump anti-gun agenda?

Of course. According to Trump's band of barking seals Trump never lies but everyone else does and he can do no wrong matter what. Stupidity cannot be fixed. 🤣


Was Trump reading off a script prepared by others? Yes or No?

A script prepared by members of the DS uniparty swamp.

A deceptively prepared PDF by agencies of the DS.

Before you deflect with your usual BS about the DS, you should look into the fourth unofficial branch which is "permanent" regardless of who is president.

They override the president’s orders. The Fourth Branch (The Administrative Branch) and head of the DS that you deny exists.


You are such a fucktard that you are not able to show the evidence that you claim to have that the 2020 election was stolen.


Funny, I didn't notice this thread being about whether the election was stolen or not.


Ahh, more of your "But Trump is just a door mat" stuff. Why do you want a door mat for a president?

I never heard of the fourth branch. Tell me more about it? Who does it consist of?

Where do you get this stuff? Are you trolling the board with this crap?


Under Trump: the lowest unemployment rate since 1950, most people lifted out of poverty since 1966, and the best economic recovery in 50 years



And they destroyed it all with the plandemic.


Do you really believe that the Democrats and Biden created the COVID-19 virus which killed millions of people around the world just to make Trump look bad?

Why won't you answer this simple question? Are you really this stupid?


In January 2017, they tipped their hands to that very conclusion:

Fauci: ‘No doubt’ Trump will face surprise infectious disease outbreak," states Fauci's remarks came during a forum on pandemic preparedness at Georgetown University.


holy crap! I have never heard that before, this should be breaking news...

NAIAD director Dr. Anthony Fauci warned in January 2017 that the Trump administration would face a surprise infectious disease outbreak.


Despite being warned, Trump chose to remain unprepared and to allow thousands of potentially infected people back into the USA to spread the infection.

Why is it taking you seven years to find out what it going on in the world?



That's why it's called a plandemic. Fauci and his accomplices planned it.

Seven years and you still don't know what's going on in the world.


Why are you the only person who dies not understand that the world experiences wide spread epidemics every several years? They tried to warn Trump, he screwed up and did not listen.


They tried to warn him of a man-made fabricated pandemic.

It's a good thing that he didn't listen; otherwise, "billions" would have died while been in lockdowns for another 5-12 more years and they would still have forced the poison jab on everyone, unconditionally.


They who?

Trump said he could do anything, even stop lockdowns and shutdown of the state's economies. Why didn't he do that?

You were forced to get the vaccine? I was not.


Birx and Pence went behind Trump's back and countermanded his orders.

Birx is DS and member of that fourth unofficial branch that can override any president's orders.

Everyone was mandated regardless if they refused it.


Brix who? How can anyone override a legal order by the president?

Exactly what were Trump's orders? Are you preferring to when Trump told Pence to reject the electoral votes?

While the VP certifies the electoral vote, he has no authority to reject any of those votes.


I was never under any mandate to get the covid vaccine. Can you link to this imaginary mandate of yours?


There were thousands of people who lost their jobs for refusing to get vaccinated.


In a right to work state, your employer can put any conditions they want on your job, with some limitations. Getting a vaccine is one of those conditions they can require. Don't like it, then get the law changed.

Were you forced to get the vaccine or not?


My comment had nothing to do with votes/election. Keep up.
It was about the plandemic, mandates and vaccines.

Do some research outside the usual MSM or leftoid sources?

Everyone was mandated and most that refused lost their jobs, families, careers, opportunities, privileges and certain rights, etc.


Exactly what were Trump's orders that Pence and Brix countermanded? Which Brix are you talking about?

So why did I never hear about this mandate and why was I not fired? What job did you lose?


They did not tip their hand; it was a warning. Why is it that you don't understand that epidemics are striking every several years?

Fauci was warning everyone that the world can be a dangerous place, but Trump ignored his own people and preferred to just remain unprepared.


Why wasn't Fauci concerned about warning Obama? The swine flu infected 60M Americans.

Why do you think these epidemics are happening more often? Historically this wasn't the case. The country is regressing in this field despite leading in medical research it's more like these outbreaks are a tool that benefits the elites: "A total of $42 trillion in new wealth has been created since 2020, with $26 trillion, or 63%, of that being amassed by the top 1% of the ultra-rich, according to the report."


Fauci did warn everyone who would listen, that is why there was a pandemic response plan in place a long time before Trump was elected. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/obama-team-left-pandemic-playbook-for-trump-administration-officials-confirm

But the Trump administration decided to ignore those plans and leave us unprepared for anything. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-obama-coronavirus-pandemic-response

The thing is that Trump does not give a damn about anything but himself. He only does things to make himself look good.

Trump and his family are one of the top 1%. Do you understand how ironic your post is? https://www.npr.org/2020/04/04/826922646/jared-kushners-role-in-coronavirus-response-draws-scrutiny-criticism


You didn't answer any of my questions. I'll assume you're unable to have that discussion.


Of course he didn’t answer.

He accuses others for been evasive while he deflects with fake information and propaganda that has been regurgitated everywhere else.


Then why haven't you responded to my posts showing that you are a total idiot by believing that Trump won in 2020? Where is the evidence that you claim to have that the 2020 election was stolen? I'm up late so I'll wait.


Yes, that's what libs do deflection over discussion.


You need to ask more specific questions if you want rational answers.

The CDC was all over H1N1 when it hit the USA. https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/cdcresponse.htm

How did you determine that epidemics are happening more often? Compared to when? Got any math figures to show?

How are you using these outbreaks to benefit yourself? Tell us more about what you know and how you benefit from them?


Specific is subjective. You'd just make another excuse because you're unable to have that discussion.

Here's a timeline of infectious outbreaks and it's apparent that they are happening at an ever increasing rate:

1738–1739 North Carolina smallpox epidemic
1789–1790 influenza epidemic
1837 Great Plains smallpox epidemic
Tennessee cholera epidemic (1849–1850)
1853 yellow fever epidemic
1862 Pacific Northwest smallpox epidemic
1924–1925 Minnesota smallpox epidemic
1962–1965 rubella epidemic
1976 swine flu outbreak
1987 Carroll County cryptosporidiosis outbreak
1993 Four Corners hantavirus outbreak
1992–1993 Jack in the Box E. coli outbreak
1993 Milwaukee cryptosporidiosis outbreak
1996 Odwalla E. coli outbreak
2003 Midwest monkeypox outbreak
2006 North American E. coli O157:H7 outbreak in spinach
2006 North American E. coli O157:H7 outbreaks
2008 United States salmonellosis outbreak
2009 swine flu pandemic in the United States
2011 United States listeriosis outbreak


If people stay put, then so does the infection. The more people move around, the more the infection spreads. People travel more than ever compared to centuries ago.

Did you ever consider the possibility that with better communication between countries in the later centuries, we are able to better determine if the the spread of illness actually becomes an epidemic?

Where did you get that list of outbreaks? Which ones did you leave off of your list?

How are you using these outbreaks to benefit yourself? Tell us more about what you know and how you benefit from them?


Centuries ago? Between 1920's -1960's there were two outbreaks.


I'm not an elite. Elites are the ones who have financially benefited from these outbreaks. Why do you suppose there was an unlicensed Covid lab in California?


[–] Branson26 (338) 33 minutes ago
Centuries ago? Between 1920's -1960's there were two outbreaks.

Your own link lists more than two;
1924 Los Angeles pneumonic plague outbreak
1924–1925 Minnesota smallpox epidemic
1947 New York City smallpox outbreak
1962-1965 rubella epidemic

You tell me why there was an unlicensed Covid lab in California.

Why do you think Trump is using outbreaks to benefit himself?


Fair point. I cited the wrong address. Here's the address for the original list which didn't include the other outbreaks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Disease_outbreaks_in_the_United_States

In any case, there have been far more outbreaks in recent times despite advancements. Why? Because these outbreaks benefit the elites. I don't know why there was an unlicensed covid lab. It's probably used to spread the infection as needed. The Spanish Flu lasted between one and two years. COVID lasted longer than that just under Biden.


Limiting your claim to those that start in the USA is a sort of cherry picking. When a country like the USA does little to stop infected people from entering, it really does not matter much if the epidemic originated inside or outside of the US.

I think there are more outbreaks in recent times due to the increase in international travel.

If someone wants to spread disease for some reason, establishing a lab would be a foolish way to do it unless you wanted to attract attention to your efforts. Allowing potentially infected people back into the country is one of the best and least suspicious ways to ensure that lots of people get infected, need treatment or die.

For example, Trump was very critical of Obama for allowing just one potentially Ebola infected person back into the USA. But Trump had no problem with thousands of Americans entering after the pandemic was identified.

Trump bragged he could do anything he wanted. Allowing infected people into the USA was one of those things he wanted.

Trump is without a doubt, in his mind and yours, one of the elites. Why do you think Trump should be allowed to get away with benefiting from the pandemic?

Spanish Flu hit the world in four waves from early 1918 to early 1920; three years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu


Trump wanted and allowed infected peopled into the country? Nonsense. Trump blocked flights from the China, the Covid hotspot in January 2020 and Biden and the Democrats attacked him as xenophobic. It was the Biden admin. who waited too long to implement additional travel restrictions.

Trump isn't an elite. Media and courts are tools of the elites, they don't go after their own. Why did Fauci sensationally warn Trump but not Obama? Why did we get daily Covid cases/deaths under Trump but not Biden?

There are are many sources that state that the Spanish Flu lasted two years: "The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918-1919 was the deadliest pandemic in world history"
The Spanish Flu unlike Covid most of the deaths were in the first year and then there was sharp decline.


[–] Branson26 (342) 2 hours ago
It was the Biden admin. who waited too long to implement additional travel restrictions.
Why did Fauci sensationally warn Trump but not Obama? Why did we get daily Covid cases/deaths under Trump but not Biden?

Trump waited months after the pandemic was identified prior to restricting travel into the USA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_2019

Trump's travel ban was actually a partial restriction. Lots of infected people got though. This is how disease spreads. If Trump had actually blocked all flights from China, it might have helped. But he did no such thing.

What do you mean "sensationally warn Trump but not Obama"? Got any examples? Fauci warned that an epidemic was overdue during the Obama administration, so they prepared. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/obama-team-left-pandemic-playbook-for-trump-administration-officials-confirm

Trump's actions as soon as he was elected was to ignore the pandemic playbook and partially disband the pandemic team.

Surely you understand that Biden did not become president until January 20th, 2021? By then the pandemic was in full swing since December 2019. Did you really think Biden was supposed to take charge while he was a nobody instead of allowing Trump to do his job?

Just because you stopped looking at covid deaths when Biden was elected, does not mean others also stopped. Counting covid deaths till continues today.

2021 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7117e1.htm
2024 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/us/covid-cases.html

You said 1-2 years. Got any sources that say one year?


Trump waited months after the pandemic? That's not true. Trump blocked flights in January It wasn't elevated to a pandemic until March 11, 2020.

There wasn't even a confirmed COVID case in the United States until January 2020. Meanwhile, in February 17, 2020 Fauci didn't want people to worry about coronavirus, the danger of which is "just minuscule."

I stopped looking? You don't understand the networks stopping publicizing covid cases/deaths with Biden.

Of course I got sources: "The influenza pandemic of 1918–19, also called the Spanish flu, lasted between one and two years."


Trump could have acted sooner than the end of January, but he didn't.

Instead of being fed information from the news networks, you can look on your own.

What additional travel restrictions did you expect Biden to put in place in 2021 that Trump did not put in place in 2020?

ETA; changed new to news.


Trump could have acted sooner than the end of January? Nonsense! Again, no verified cases until about that time while Fauci told everyone there was nothing to worry about nearly a month later.

Obama could've acted sooner. The first Swine flu cases were confirmed in April. A national emergency wasn't declared until 7 months later. Why did Obama wait so long?

Biden could've acted sooner. Why did Biden wait nearly 8 months into his term to add additional travel restrictions while covid cases/death were spiking over the country?

I'm being fed information from 'new' networks? Ridiculous! You're the one toting exactly what MSM has spouted against Trump and covid with no critical thought.


[–] Branson26 (345) a day ago
I stopped looking? You don't understand the networks stopping publicizing covid cases/deaths with Biden.

Which travel restrictions made by Trump were so inadequate that
Biden needed to make new ones by January 2021? This is your claim, prove it.

In my post above, "new" should be "news".

Which networks stopped publicizing covid deaths and why did this influence you so much?

I never had a problem looking up covid deaths from news services. Why did you?

Exactly what am I touting about Trump and covid with no critical thought?


COVID cases/deaths spiked after Trump's term. My claim has already been proven because Biden was forced to add new restrictions, months into his term.

All the networks stopped publicizing covid deaths under Biden. Why was there a Trump death clock but not one for Biden?

I already pointed out two examples where Biden and Obama waited too long which was your argument against Trump: you have no critical thought you just mirror what MSM told you.


How were they new compared to the Trump restrictions?

To which death clock are you referring to? Got an example? There was no shortage of covid death tracking while Biden is president.

Two examples where Obama and Biden waited too long? yOu mean you made unsupported claims that you have no reason to believe are true?

What MSM am I being mislead by? Got links?


This death clock:https://www.newsweek.com/trump-coronavirus-death-clock-protesters-washington-dc-fourth-july-1515457

There was Biden no death clock. COVID was always a weapon against Trump despite the fact that there were more Covid deaths under Biden's failed policies.

Unsupported claims? Nonsense!

You've been mislead by every MSM covid talking points. You keep repeating them with no original thought. It's like you're stuck in 2020. You only have criticisms against Trump but not Biden.


That is not a government death clock. It was paid for by protesters using their own money or from donations. https://twitter.com/TrumpDeathClock/status/1279475778791657473

I'd say the only reason that is no Biden death clock is because you are unwilling to make one and drive it around. Why is that?

If you cannot point to any certain MSM talking point, then they are a figment of your imagination.

I criticize Biden plenty, Biden will never get my vote either.


It's not a government death clock/It was paid for by protestors? Democrats have been protesting against Trump constantly since he decided to run.

There was no Biden death clock because it would be considered defamation, and rightfully so. Again, Covid was a tool to attack Trump.

Any certain MSM point? Everything you spout is a MSM talking point. Just like what you have mirrored from Trump's death clock...

Where's a post where you have criticized Biden?


Who do you think paid for the death clock?

Guess what, GOP and Democrats protest against each other's candidates all the time. Where have you been anyway?

I don't need to show you where I criticize Biden. You will claim to be unaware of it, even as you were in this thread.

How did you miss this one?

[–] Ranb (7079) 3 hours ago
Biden will never get my vote either.



Democrats paid for the clock. It was sponsored by the left leaning Public Citizen who published articles like: "Biden Is Standing Up for Consumers Against Corporate Greed"

There are different rules for Democrats or there would would be a Biden death clock, illegal alien ticker, daily updates on record suicides and overdoes deaths under Biden etc...

You claimed that you criticized Biden plenty. Odd, you can't find a single example. Now you think I'll somehow believe your claim that you won't vote for Biden is ridiculous.


So? Which democrats? Why are you (a republican?) not paying for a covid death clock for Biden?

Is there something wrong with a death clock that no one else is aware of?

Just as I thought, I supplied an example, in quotes, above, and you're denying it exists.


Which Democrats? I'd guess the anti-Trump Democrats so I'd assume all of them. I'm a Republican? I voted for Bill Clinton, Gore, and Obama 08.

The problem with the death clock is that it would be allowed against Trump but no other president.

You supplied nothing. You could say you hate Biden but still vote for him. How would I know?


Who is allowing the death clock? You talk like we are in North Korea and not the USA.

If you want a Biden death clock, then you make a Biden death clock and parade it around.

But instead you cry like a baby because no one, including you, is willing to drive their Biden death clock around.

You are pathetic.


We are not far from being North Korea. On most sites, if I post facts about the 2020 election. They get censored, gone. The elites dictate that. They're certainly not going to allow death clocks against Biden.

Good, resort to personal attacks because you're unable to support your own claim, now that's pathetic.


Which sites?

You're a fool, complaining about inaction when you're the one who refuses to take action.


All the popular sites.

You can't even support your own explicit claim. Nothing can be more foolish than that.

My claim is supported. There have never been similar attacks against any other president because they would not be allowed by the elites.


So you cannot name a single site then?

Which claim are yoiu referring to?

You are a coward who could make his own death clock, but prefers to blames "the elites", whoever they are, for not allowing you.


Facebook, Google, Yahoo etc.

Reread the prior replies, derp.

You can have any opinion. However, much like your failed claim it's not supported by reality.


When Trump was president, groceries, gasoline, and just about everything else were affordable. A real effort was being made to control the southern border, and it was mostly successful. The United States was energy independent. There were no new wars. Unemployment was very low. Rational justices were appointed to the Supreme Court.

Everything was better.

That's why Trump.


good post, I was basically going to say the same thing.

also Trump made a concerted effort to prevent any new wars and even ended a 20 year war.


New wars start almost every year, this was true during the Trump years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts

Gas was cheaper due to lower demand during the pandemic that Trump mismanaged.

It is never better that Americans died from a disease that was allowed into the nation.


No new wars were started under Trump where the USA was involved in it, eg. Ukraine and Israel.

Gas was already cheaper before the plandemic.

A disease with a 99.5% survival rate? that almost sounds like a common cold ... oh wait.


[–] liscarkat (16352) 21 hours ago
There were no new wars.

[–] JoWilli (14723) 14 hours ago
good post, I was basically going to say the same thing.

Why are you changing your argument?

I think the survival rate is about 98.2% https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-970830023526
If there were 700 million covid infections, a 99.5% survival rate would still means 3,500,000 deaths.


AP is mis/dis-information. More leftist sources as usual.

Oh, and I was been generous, the rate was actually 99.97% SR.


You're being evasive. Why are you changing your argument?

Where are you getting those numbers from?


As expected, Trump supporters have no problem listing reasons to support Trump as opposed to the other thread.



Trump is one of the biggest Chads on the planet and if he's President again America will be respected and exceptional again.


The main reason is...he's not part of the swamp.


And that’s why the swamp and cabal unleashed hell on him. He refused their offer to join them.


yup, they all went schizo when he changed from a dem to a Republican.