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Well played, Mr. Trump!


From @DC_Draino on Twitter:

“Trump is only going to Ohio for a photo op”

Wrong

The EPA is now holding Norfolk Southern accountable

Buttigieg and Biden are finally talking about it

FEMA is now sending help

Trump’s announcement completely changed the gov’t’s response

And the victims finally have hope
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He neglects to say that because Trump had to force their hands, the Biden Administration looks like fools.

Well played, Mr. Trump. Well played!

Oh, and I hear that Buttigieg, after telling everyone yesterday that he was going to go to East Palestine "when the time is right," the time is now suddenly right and he'll be going tomorrow. Trump sure knows how to get the Biden Administration off their dead behinds!

One more thing. Trump didn't come empty-handed. He also brought in truckloads of bottled water, cleaning supplies and canned food. The Biden Administration gave people $1000 each. At least now they won't have to blow it all on bottled water, cleaning supplies, and canned food.

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The giving never stops.

Only president in US history lose wealth while holding office.

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Truman didn’t gain much, if any. He once said, “The only way to get rich in politics is if you’re a crook.”
Most of them are crooks these days. Even MTG has Pfizer stock.

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According to his tax returns he loses money even when he's not president

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So not at all like Biden and Son, then.

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You are correct, Trump is a loser. Even as a businessman, all he's done is spend his daddy's money.

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No, that's not true. He's not making deals with oligarchs in Ukraine through his son who only seems expert at selling influence and smoking crack. If Trump had a son working for him like Hunter, then certainly, he'd be infinitely richer.

Do you Biden-defenders honestly not see his flaws, or are you choosing not to see that he's a shadow of a man with a son who's obviously selling influence? Even the NYT is admitting the laptop story is true. The stories are crumbling, Biden won't take a competency test, and you guys are acting like he's a Mensa member in good standing with impeccable morals.

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thanks again Mr Trump for being the best President and helping Americans.

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You only say that because Trump embraces stupid people like yourself.

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If you're better off now than you were before the pandemic hit, then you're one of the few. Tell us how you're managing it.

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Chirp. Chirp.

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Where is my warm ale and fish and chips?

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I prefer my ale to be cold but I love fish and chips especially with malt vinegar. Yum!

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It’s really not difficult to run circles around the Democrat party.

Do anything that benefits the American people and you’ve beaten them.

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Trump Prison 2023 also he is guilty of Treason for allowing Russia to control favor of the 2016 Election and not submitting his Tax Records .

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Trump's tax records show in black and white what a liar he is. Trump violated his campaign promise to donate his salary as president and that he took heavy losses in every venture he tried and only made money on his inheritance.

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he opened a casino that went bust . how is that even possible ?
If he was given a licence to print money he'd fuck it up - probly put his own picture on it 🤣

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Right?! The Trump University scam is my personal favorite. He promoted it like it was a charity he was giving to the poor public.

He FOR SURE would print his face on it. I'm surprised that the portion of 'the wall' scam he ran along the Rio Grande doesn't have his face wallpapered on it.

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Trump wasn't President in 2016.

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The Presidential election that he 'won' was 2016, that is what is being discussed bro.

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I know.

text: "he(Trump) is guilty of Treason for allowing Russia to control favor of the 2016 Election"

Obama was President in 2016.

OBAMA: ELECTION WON’T BE ‘RIGGED,’ … — President Barack Obama on Thursday forcefully rejected Donald Trump’s recent claims the November election will be “rigged,” brushing the idea off as “ridiculous.” Speaking at a Pentagon news conference, he noted that states and local authorities, not the federal government, run the election process. That said: “We do take seriously our responsibilities to monitor and preserve the integrity of the vote process,” he added.

https://youtu.be/cruh2p_Wh_4
There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America's elections, in part because they're so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved. There's no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances that will happen this time" - President Obama

Nancy Pelosi
@SpeakerPelosi
Our election was hijacked. There is no question. Congress has a duty to #ProtectOurDemocracy & #FollowTheFacts.
11:44 AM · May 16, 2017

Which is it? Can elections be rigged or not?

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only RepubliKKKan Scumbags like yourself an in favor of rigged elections

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Like the 2020 election? That one was rigged like Joe said.

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Personally, I think we've been having rigged elections for a while. Remember when Obama took flak for leaning over to Putin on a hot mike and saying, "I'll have more leeway after the elections." (Funny he didn't get roasted for promising to be able to go easier on Putin.) Anyway, that was when he was up against Mittens. Yes, it was more of an echo than a choice, but how could Obama KNOW he'd win that election? It wasn't a question. It wasn't, "IF I win the election I'll have more leeway in our relationship." Nope. He knew he had it in the bag. How?

I also think that's what made Hillary so angry. SHE had it in the bag. She rigged the Democrat primaries in plain sight. SHE was supposed to win. Then Trump pulls it out because there was a bigger red wave than they'd counted on. That's somebody who can rig a General Election.

Just my wild guess, but it lines up with the way they acted.

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lol!

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Trump probably would not be giving away water if his administration did not roll back railroad safety requirements.

His administration’s most high-profile action on rail safety was its withdrawal of a 2015 rule mandating more advanced brakes on some trains carrying especially hazardous materials.


https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/22/donald-trump-ohio-visit-questions-safety-legacy-00083885
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-17-122
https://apnews.com/article/wv-state-wire-north-america-donald-trump-us-news-ap-top-news-2e91c7211b4947de8837ebeda53080b9mp-us-news-ap-top-news-transportation-1936e77a11924c909880f1ef014c7ca7
https://www.opb.org/news/article/trump-administration-obama-era-policy-oil-train-safety/


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Democrats are blazing the internet claiming the accident is Trump's fault. They never mention that there are over 1000 derailments per year. They never mention the Obama law would just this year be able to be enforced..

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Proof for your claim?

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https://oli.org/track-statistics/collisions-casualties-year

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Just so you know, liberals hate facts.

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Oh yes, I'm well aware. They are allergic to it.

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I was referring to this claim. "They never mention the Obama law would just this year be able to be enforced.."

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how is any of that relevent?
its not about that one incident , its simple :

Obama introduces new law to increase railroad safety
Trump squashes it because
a) purely to spite Obama
b) republicsan party donors didnt want their railroad shares to take a hit

or was it something else?

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Joe cancelled the Keystone pipeline out of spite. we are now paying double for gas.

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It's not relevant to the Palestine incident. But then, neither is anything these libs are posting. They didn't even wait to find out what actually CAUSED the accident to start pointing their fingers at Trump. 🤦🏼‍♀️

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Thats TDS in a nut shell.

Biden could have passed an executive order on Day 1 to reverse anything Trump did. Or the House could have passed a law in the past 2 years rolling back anything Trump did. Dems are culpable for not making trains safer.

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If Trump made it unsafe, they had two years to fix it. I don't think everything Trump did was fantastic.

Still, the stuff they're screaming about didn't have a direct bearing on this accident. And the Biden Administration is making it abundantly clear they don't give a rip about the middle class or poor.

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Completely unrelated, but I know you Trumptwats never let actual facts get in the way of your narrative...

Experts tell The Associated Press that the Keystone XL pipeline cancellation isn’t affecting what’s happening in the oil market today. It was never operational when it was shut down, and was not slated to go into service until 2023, according to a press release from TC Energy, the company constructing the project.

“Problem with the Keystone: It’s like saying a highway that was built but never completed is somehow making your commute to work way longer. You never got to ride on that highway. It was never opened. It was never relied on,” said Patrick De Haan, head of petroleum analysis for GasBuddy.com, referring to the Keystone XL pipeline.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-895299166310

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Then why didn't Biden put it back again?

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Anything in there about WHEEL BEARINGS which is what failed? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-train-derailment-ntsb-report-wheel-bearing-final-stage-overheat-failure/ I made sure to use a liberal site so you might believe it.

This was in no way Trump's fault. But nice try.

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If better brakes can stop or slow a train prior to overheated bearings contributing to a derailment, then that is a good thing. Do you agree?

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The NTSB found Norfolk Southern wholly responsible. They’re the ones who did the investigation. I know you want it to be Trump’s fault, but it isn’t. Norfolk Southern should inspect their trains and find obvious problems like worn wheel bearings.

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You're evading an answer to my question. Why?

I did not say it was Trump's fault. You're just claiming I did to find a problem with my post.

Do you think the Trump administration's decision to change safety regulations was the right thing to do?

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I love this:
"I did not say it was Trump's fault. You're just claiming I did to find a problem with my post." Followed immediately by: "Do you think the Trump administration's decision to change safety regulations was the right thing to do?" If you're not saying it's Trump's fault, why are we discussing it? Before you were implying Trump removed safety regulations regarding breaks that could have avoided the derailment. That IS saying it's Trump's fault.

Help me answer the question. Precisely which safety regulations did he change? Since we don't want to go through what might be reams of safety regulations, only list the ones directly responsible for the failure of the bearings on the Norfolk Southern train in East Palestine, Ohio, and why the NTSB wouldn't decide those safety regulations were to blame.

If I have the space, I'll tell you a little story. Here in Oregon, it will take you at least $50,000 in permits and regulatory red tape before you can even break ground and build a house. A liberal friend who is a subcontractor, and a conservative neighbor who is a subcontractor both think the regulations are strangling the housing market, here. Both would reduce the regulations if they were suddenly made Governor. If the regulations were eased, and later a high rise collapsed because of nothing that had anything to do with any of the permits, environmental studies, and other silly hoops they make builders jump through in this state, should we blame the fact that regulations were eased for that high rise collapsing? First, regulations were eased; second, a high rise collapses.

But correlation is not causation. First, regulations were eased; second, worn bearings fail. So choose those regulations I'm to look at carefully. And no, I'm not going to do the research for you, so don't give me a generic link. It's your proposition. Prove it.

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I bet you love it. I've lost track of the amount of times that Trump apologists have excused Trump's behavior by saying it was his administration's fault instead.

So do you think changing safety regulations was the right thing to do or not? Better brakes stop trains faster when there is a problem.

https://www.regulations.gov/search?filter=PHMSA-2017-0102
https://www.regulations.gov/document/PHMSA-2017-0102-0017

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Give us the salient points out of all that and explain precisely how that impacts inspection of wheel bearings.

I'll wait.

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You said you would look. Prove you did by explaining precisely how that impacts inspection of wheel bearings.

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TDS knows no bounds. To take anything positive Trump does and turn it into a negative. It gets old real quick. When is the last time ANY Democrat did anything remotely positive like this with their own dime?

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I’m not surprised.

Perhaps when the nukes start flying they will realize how wrong they were; and if not, they certainly will when they get to hell.

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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1628480623529586691?s=20

Trump's rant about covid and football in East Palestine; not well played.

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That is not a rant;...this is:

https://youtu.be/xoS_dn_1b1w?t=208

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Is someone saying your link is not a rant?

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Biden saying he’s not going to show up now and besides he hasn’t “been invited” is lame.

Trump came, he brought food, water, and cleaning supplies, and he showed he gave a hoot, unlike Biden, who first tried throwing Buttigieg under the bus, and now is saying it’s the city official’s fault for not giving him an engraved invitation. Well, engraving is optional.

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Yes, Biden is lame. Everyone knows that.

So how much water food and cleaning supplies did Trump bring? A pallet of each? I saw a photo of small amounts. What good will that do?

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1. My guess is you didn't watch Fox. They said he brought several truckloads.

2. Granted, it won't do as much good as the billions Biden was giving to a foreign dictator at the same time his own people were going wanting, but hey -- priorities, right?

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I don't have cable TV. I did a brief search on the internet and found nothing that stated exactly how much Trump brought into town.

Truck loads? 1/2 ton pickup or semi-tracker trailers?

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Semis. It was a wonderful gesture, and the looks on the people's faces was heartwarming -- they felt, finally, someone cared. Then Trump ran his credit card and bought the local fire department Big Macs (Trump likes them), and bought some more for the various towns people he was going to run into.

He also hugged people. Biden is called "empathetic" and all that, but his representatives weren't seen holding people as they cried. I'm not root-hog-n-die Trump, understand me. Those vaccines all the Dems were saying they wouldn't take because they were "Trump vaccines" are vaccines I STILL won't take. He shut the country down and turned it over to a little megalomaniac called Tony Fauci, a man who never saw an audience or a camera he didn't like.

I could go on for hours.

But I don't have TDS. When he does something good -- and this was something very good -- I'm willing to give credit where credit is due.

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Got a link that say how much Trump brought to the area?

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Why are you centrists and/or lefties always insist with asking for “links” or “citation” or “proof”?!

When someone provides them, you go out of your way to search and find lies to ineptly refute or contradict the facts and truth to suit your own opinionated narrative based on other liars.

You are capable of finding your own unbiased facts/truth and double-checking to verify them before asking/requesting for them in the first place.

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I only ask for a link when someone makes an unsupported claim. Why is that a problem?

How about you don't act like one of those pussies that Trump is so fond of grabbing?

Making a claim without evidence to support it is lame. Demanding that others support your claims is rude. Don;t be a dick.

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Than you shouldn't be a lazy idiot. Do your own fucking fact-checking and verification before asking.

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So if I claimed you were an arsonist and rapist, it would be up to you to prove me wrong? Probably not. That is why the person making the claim should be providing evidence to support their claims without being asked to.

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So then why bother asking?!

You and others are capable of searching and verifying in order to prove or disprove in your rebuttal.

You pretend and play coy just so you can have something to contradict with lies and deceptions since you are already biased about it.

I have seen this countless of times. The typical leftist playbook bullshit.

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I'm not a leftist. I am more conservative than most GOP politicians.

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Bullshit! you are a leftist playing centrist....eg playing both sides when it is convenient.

Nice try.

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Why don't you just watch some TV or something. A millisecond's Googling got me the info.

Things I've noticed flourish the less information the person has:

Cults of any description
Extreme beliefs of any description
Being a Democrat

If you'd watched TV or read much on the Internet, you wouldn't have thought the claim was "unsupported."

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Not precisely, but this gives you an idea. If I had a clip ready, I'd send that. There were truckloads. Not pickup loads, either: https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/02/trump-brings-pallets-of-food-cleaning-supplies-and-trump-water-to-ohio-disaster-site/

If you want to know the Democrat talking point you're supposed to use against me, it's that some of the bottled water seemed to be a promotion for Trump's campaign. That's a little like when the jerks who'd just been complaining that the people in the Superdome after Katrina needed water started shrieking, "but not THAT water!" when a church sent down some with the John 3:16 verse on it.

Yes, Trump's running for President, and he thinks like a businessman. He brought the attention that was needed to those townspeople.

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Pallets (two?) are truckloads now?

Actually Trump thinks like a rapist. He loves that he can sexually assault woman as a perk of wealth.

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Where are you seeing it said there were only two (2) pallets? I had the computer search for the word "pallets" in that article, and no where did it say there were only two. The truck I saw on TV had pallets of regular bottled water in it. I hadn't even heard of the "Trump water" until today. Must have been in another truck.

Only Democrats could quibble over it not being enough water when the people desperately needed water, Biden was nowhere in sight, and Trump showed up with the article. If he'd brought gallons for each person in the town -- that he did NOT do -- you'd be saying, "And how long do you think THAT would last?" Biden's people gave them some water and one thousand whole dollars! Compared with all the money going to where Biden said his heart was, Ukraine, that's insulting.

Meanwhile, Biden's scampered off to his vacation home, where he's spent 40% of his presidency.

Trump saying he could grab women by the genitals was appalling. The fellow who ratted him out didn't sound appalled at the time, though, and he should have. He just looks like a weasel to laugh and agree then turn the tape over to the news. But I know the story isn't true. How? Trust me, were he to try to grab any woman I know by the genitals, he'd go deaf from the screaming. Any woman you know, too.

Still, it's not quite in the realm of the contents of Ashley Biden's diary.

Now tell me you don't know anything about that story. 🙄

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You were not specific on quantity, so I asked.

I've heard about the diary. But this is about Trump. No matter how bad someone else is, Trump still sucks.

What do you claim is not true? That Trump said he grabs woman by the pussy? Or that a he actually sexually assaults women?

Almost everyone knows that most sexual assaults go unreported, so you're just making up stuff when you claim that anyone would scream when assaulted.

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Asked whom?

It isn't true what Trump claimed he could do. I don't know of a woman who'd put up with it. They'd scream. They'd try to kick him in the privates. It's not remotely plausible, but you bought it. Probably why you believed it was two pallets when the unspecified person you asked told you -- you're not a critical thinker.

Now, when Biden sexually assaulted Tara Reade, someone who worked for him, it didn't go reported at the time because she worked for the powerful Senator. She was afraid for her job, her career, the classic reasons why sexual assaults are not reported. Trump walks up to some random woman and grabs her genitals? "They let you," he said. In his dreams. The whole dynamic is different, and so would be the response. Remember, Trump wasn't the President at that time. It may as well be some pervert in the subway. Boss and powerful Senator is the same as "The Donald," the guy who had to pay people to applaud as he came down an escalator? You're making stuff up when you think the situations are the same.

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I asked you the of post above. See the question mark?

Trump actually bragged about sexually assaulting women as a perk of wealth. I can certainly imagine Trump as some pervert on the subway. Thanks for the image. :)

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Oh. So when you assert there are only two, then say that’s not “truckloads,” then put a question mark at the end of it, you weren’t drawing conclusions out of thin air, you were sincerely asking a question…based on an assumption you’d invented.

And you think women just “let” him grab them by the genitals as a perk of wealth. It proves to me he’s a crass pig that was trying to prove to the laughing, agreeing entertainment reporter that he was still a “swinger” at his advanced age.

Biden’s sexual assault of Tara Reade doesn’t bother you at all, though, does it? I bet you were saying, “We should believe them!” when it came to Kavanaugh, but Tara Reade’s a dirty liar, isn’t she? So’s Ashley Biden. So are our lying eyes when we see Biden violating children’s spaces and making them cringe and move away right on camera.

So, what have we learned? You’re the sort of person who believes what he wants to believe and argues from same. You refuse to do your own research and you don’t even keep up on the news. You’re not the least bit embarrassed to argue from utter ignorance.

Well, I found out what I wanted to. 😂

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No one was coming up with anything concrete on how much aid Trump brought in, so I asked.

I do not think women just let Trump grab them. I suspect Trump does it without their permission.

Yes, it bothers me that anyone would be a rapist, Biden included. Why are you saying I am not bothered by it?

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They said, and then their noses grew.

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I saw the truckloads.

I used to think TDS wasn't a thing. The last six years have proven to me that some folks hate him with the white-hot heat of a thousand suns.

I wish Biden loved America and Americans as much as some people hate Trump.

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Trump is a NARCISSIST, he doesn't care about his followers or the people who fund him, he wants all the attention for himself, when are you going to realise that?

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Trump cares about America. Unlike that other guy that no one talks about.

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Yeah, he's pretty full of himself. And yeah, because the Biden Administration played this badly, Trump had an opportunity to win over some swing voters who have stopped watching the MSM, CNN and MSNBC, and are now watching Fox -- the top-rated cable news network. He saw his opening, and he took it.

I know a little something about narcissists, and it doesn't just mean "egotist," although all narcissists surely are. Can you give me examples of, say, gaslighting -- a typical narcissist's trait -- from Trump?

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How come he never visited the site of any train derailment when he was president? Not even ones where people were actually killed. Instead he rolled back safety and inspection requirements.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/amid-attacks-on-biden-bret-baier-notes-trump-officials-didnt-visit-fatal-train-derailment-sites/

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Neither did Obama or Biden

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Right. So why are Republicans going apeshit over Biden not going right away?

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Because this time it's as if the town was bombed with POISON GAS.

Everyone dropped the ball. The conservative outlets were patting themselves on the back until they realized they were about two weeks late to the dance. If it weren't for Twitter and Fox News, you likely wouldn't have heard about it. The whole town is likely going to have to be treated like Chernobyl. But other than that, yeah -- it's exactly like every other train derailment. 🙄

Oh, when Buttigieg said we had 1000 derailments a year now, he didn't seem to know that was an indictment of his tenure as Transportation Secretary.

And where did all of that money for infrastructure GO? I think we need an audit.

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Im 25 miles from it, it was all over the news as soon as it happened.

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What’s in the news when you’re 25 miles from it is not what’s in the national news. You likely got 24hour coverage. It was a far bigger deal, since they’re likely to have to treat this town like Chernobyl, than anything in my memory, short of Tiananmen Square or a Presidential assassination. This poison is now in the Ohio River, as I don’t have to tell you. I don’t even know — nor do they — how many people will be affected by this disaster, and we only got to really see the national news take it seriously in the past week and a half.

Buttigieg took too long to show up. It’s too late for Biden to even bother, now. And we really need to know where that infrastructure money went. This isn’t the only problem we’ve seen in transportation, lately. The Biden Administration cares more about Ukraine than they do what’s happening in America.

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The Ohio spill is a direct result of Trump's repeal of Obama's train car safety regulations. Trump's cult followers here can only scream "Bbbbbut why didn't Biden blah blah blah!"

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Biden or the democrat controlled House could have rolled back regulations but they didnt.

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So you are saying that we need more democrats in office to protect us from Republicans. I Agree

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nope, they did nothing to prevent the derailment so they are culpable.

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Exactly!

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They didn't do enough. But the democrats are the ones supporting safety regulations and the Republicans are the ones removing them and putting in place judges who rule in favor of not business over victims. So you think carefully about who is the problem.

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Nothing you folks are talking about had any direct impact on the derailment. It's pathetic. Don't you guys read, listen to or watch the news? The NTSB said it was worn wheel bearings, and held Norfolk Southern entirely culpable since it was up to them to inspect and maintain those wheel bearings.

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There's more to it than that. There were two sets of heat sensors that should have detected overheated axels and stopped the train before it derailed. Something wasn't working right.
This is one derailment. How many other safety systems are defective that may lead to others?

Companies like N-S do the math on what it will cost to clean up an accident vs how much it would cost to make sure trains and safety systems are inspected and in good shape.

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And Obama's train car safety regulations relate to wheel bearings not being inspected HOW? Chapter and verse, please.

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Liar. But then again, that's all g0pilogists do these days; LIE and Project. Even the dolts in PalaceTeen refuse to hold their governor accountable and now demand optics sideshow from Biden.

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You don't understand. I'm asking a question.

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Democrat party/Biden’s signature (in)action of their presidency will be that of a train wreck.

So apropos.

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Will you write your members of congress to tell them to expand safety regulations on trains carrying hazardous cargo like I have?

Or will you complain about regulations and vote for people who want to eliminate as many safety regulations as they can?

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You DO know that there was nothing preventing basic maintenance like inspecting wheel bearings, the thing which caused the derailment, right? So you guys going on about Obama this or Trump that has no bearing (no pun intended) on the crash.

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You don't have to tell me that. The rail companies are notorious for ignoring safety or it costs them more than not doing it. We've got bridges carrying local roads over tracks here that are owned by N-S and have been rated as extremely deficient and when pressured to replace them, N-S responded by tearing down the bridge and not replacing it, thereby cutting a town in half. I lived in a county in Ohio that had dozens of uncontrolled railroad crossings that the rail companies refused to upgrade because it would cost more than wrongful death lawsuits.

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