And that's why his joint was raided? Can they accept that basic fact? It's the bare minimum.
shareNope, they can't. In their fervid imaginations what ever DJT did it was way less than what Hilary did or what President Obama did or what Pence did or what Joe Biden did.....
shareNope, in the eyes of the Trumptwats he can do no wrong; Sadly, his prescient remark is all too true...
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/23/464129029/donald-trump-i-could-shoot-somebody-and-i-wouldnt-lose-any-voters
The problem is, that kind of remark is highly dangerous, he's implying that he's above the law, and he's NOT.
First and foremost, I'm going to get the fact that I'm not a Trumpet/Trumptard/Trump-some-sort-of-"clever"-insulting-nickname/Trump voter. I'm not even American. I just wanted to let that be known, only so my comment doesn't get taken under the wrong context (I'm not blindly defending him, just saying my 2cents).
That said:
While I completely agree with you, and am not arguing your point...he didn't say/imply he was above the law during that particular speech...although he does act like it. I could totally see how people would think he was implying him being above the law though, I could also see how people wouldn't think that (myself included).
He was just saying that even if he killed someone, people would still love him and vote for him...which, sadly, is completely accurate and one of the more honest things he's said.
Yes, I'm aware that murder is a capital offense, and that he would be arrested IRL...sad thing is, theoretically speaking of course, IF he were SOMEHOW able to run for office after being released from jail for murder (I know he wouldn't), he'd probably still have roughly the same amount of voters/followers.
I can only assume that some people would turn their backs on him, but honestly, I doubt it would be enough to make a substantial difference.
He'd end up having roughly the same amount of Trumpets idolizing him.
Depending on who he kills, they may idolize him even more-so than they currently do...sad day.
This is all IMO, of course.
Edit: typos/grammar.
He is not responsible for January 6th. The actual January 6th attackers have stated that he never talked to any of them before the attack. And he was with some supporters when it happened. The corrupt media which is pro democrat anti republican intentionally didn't show all his words just like they didn't show his full statements any other time. Frankly I voted for Trump twice. I think the majprity of Democrats have gone way too far left and our country is on the verge of economic collapse due to their stupid decision making. I think Hillary and Biden are way more corrupt than Trump and I frankly think a lot of you Trump haters ignore everything around you.
You leftists are fools who are causing our country economic collapse and when that happens I am going to every leftist I know and yelling at them about how they caused it. Knowing you leftists on here you probably think Biden is doing a great job and think his economic policies are good.
Trump stated, in a speech before that horrendous event on January 6th....."We have to take our country back". What the hell do you think he was referring to? THAT, without a doubt in my mind, caused those right wing extremists to break into the capitol. The rest is history. Trump incited that insurrection.
shareYou are just a willfully ignorant person who just believes whatever the pro democrat anti republican media says. Everyone who works for ABC, NBC, and CBS are all liars and they've lied to everyone as has the democrat party.
share[–] AMJF (4252) a year agoFor your entertainment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_GZB4WO7Ko share
The problem is, that kind of remark is highly dangerous, he's implying that he's above the law, and he's NOT.
I can't understand why he would keep Top Secret documents unless he aimed to either blackmail government officials to get what he wants or sell off secrets to enemies of the US to the highest bidder. All of you have a good grip on reality. Trumpians live in their own fantasy world where they can do no wrong despite the threat to our democracy.
shareMaybe the documents are comprising to himself.
shareIn that case I'm pretty sure they would have been destroyed, not sitting around his home.
shareThat would make things worse. It's why Nixon didn't destroy the tapes.
shareHillary destroyed hard drives with classified materials and no one cared or raided her house.
shareDiaper Joe ordered a hit on the Supreme Court and no one cares either.
There is liberal privilege in this country, they get a free pass for everything including attempted murder
yep, huge liberal privilege. no one is investigating the attempted murder of a supreme court justice.
welcome to Kangaroo Biden Land.
Yeah, sure he did. You guys will invent any sick idea to make Biden seem worse than Trump.
shareWe don’t need to invent anything , it’s blatantly obvious.
shareSure it is. 🙄
shareI asked this user to provide some kind of proof to support his claim and the best he could do was provide a link to an obscure India news site that is about a year old which proved nothing.
shareIt's so sad, they don't care about the source, they just believe what they want to and then find some ridiculous way to rationalize it.
shareThe source doesn’t matter, diaper Joe said get ready for a revolution, the source is the son of a bitch’s own words , he ordered a hit on the Supreme Court
sharelol
shareNo matter who is reporting is irrelevant, the source is the motherfuckers own words. He directly told his mob to murder the Supreme Court and he should be impeached and jailed for it. Doubt he will though because of liberal privilege.
shareWhenever you Trumptwat blather on with your delusional rants I can't help but be reminded of when adults talk in Charlie Brown specials!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04&ab_channel=CorgiAdventures
I’m sorry the truth hurts your fragile little feelings so much but that’s no ones fault but your own. Diaper Joe tried to assassinate Justices Kavanaugh and Barrett. He’s a traitor and should be thrown in jail.
shareBlah blahblah blah blah blah blahblah blahblah blahblah blah blah blahblah blah blah!
shareDo you seriously believe that? So sad for you.
shareWhy shouldn’t I believe it? Should I not take your cult leaders seriously? Diaper Joe tried to have our Supreme Court murdered which is an insurrection. He sent his mob to terrorize them at their own homes and put a hit out on them, but killing our institutions I guess is ok when your cult does it
shareAnd yet you decline to provide the actual direct quote of Biden sayin "Murder the supreme court." Why is that?
shareI already showed you, he called for a revolution and when you revolt you kill people. Plus he knows how unhinged his mob is. He incited an assassination attempt on Justice Kavanaugh
shareYou don't understand what a direct quote is. I even put in quotation marks what directly telling people to murder someone/something looks like.
How many years jail time did Newt Gingrich serve for "directly telling" people to murder opponents both inside and outside the Republican party? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Revolution
Deflecting to Newt Gingrich is irrelevant and a totally different discussion. Regardless of whatever he may or may not have said doesn’t change the fact that Diaper Joe told his mob to murder Justice Kavanaugh and he was almost killed by a far left terrorist , this is 100 percent on Diaper Joes hands and if you had any integrity you’d call for the son of a bitch to be impeached and jailed.
shareRegardless of anything you say you continue to be completely clueless
shareYou're the one who's justifying political violence and domestic terrorism. It's not too late, join me in calling for the motherfucker to be impeached and jailed, he is trying to have people murdered.
shareAm I? All I'm saying is that you don't understand basic English and you can't provide the direct quote of Biden directing people to commit murder. All I'm doing is pointing out that the exact same language has been used by both Rep and Dem politicians since forever.
But you're so desperate you're happy to just blatantly enforce a double standard.
I don't recall Biden ever commending people who drive cars into crowds "fine people"
Trump didn’t call them “fine people” either he said the people on both sides who were being peaceful were fine people. See you are either a liar or very stupid, or you only listen to the fake news. President Trump did not call white supremacists fine people and that talking point was debunked years ago, someone in your cult forgot to give you the memo. Diaper Joe is responsible for the assassination attempt on Justice Kavanaugh and he’s responsible for the far left terrorist who just murdered a teenager for his political views , he directly told his mob to to kill anyone who disagrees with him and the motherfucker should be in jail.
shareHis "fine people" remark was in response to him being asked to comment on the person who drove their car at people. He couldn't bring himself to be seen condemning it in front of his sheeple. So he gave a non response which is as bad as just saying he didn't care.
That's how reluctant he was to have to condemn the actions of anyone who might be supportive of him. He's a fucking pussy.
I don't recall Biden replying that there are fine people when asked to comment on a murder.
You are a liar, he never said the white supremacists or anyone being violent was a fine person, he said there were fine people on both sides that doesn’t mean everyone on both sides were fine people. He said the people being peaceful were fine people. In the meantime Diaper Joe is inciting violence against our courts our police and anyone who didn’t vote for him. A teenager is dead, killed by a far left radical because of Diaper Joes lies. The family should sue the shit out of him.
Here you go: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd0cMmBvqWc&t=17s
President trump condemn white supremacy however I have yet to see diaper Joe have the courage to condemn BLM, Antifa or any of other several left wing terror movements. Also Diaper Joe was asked to comment on left wing violence and he justified it by saying the police were the “enemy”, not only was he too much of a pussy to condemn it he actively encouraged it. Dozens of people died in summer 2020 because of hai rhetoric and his lies, 574 violent insurrections all of which made J6 a day at the beach.
So you have a recording of Biden ordering a hit on Kavanaugh? Did one of the perps claim he got orders from Biden?
Did you hear the order personally and fail to report it to the police?
He said there was going to be a revolution, try reading a newspaper for once in your life. He told his mob to go kill the Supreme Court.
Here you go: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3516904-biden-predicts-mini-revolution-in-november-if-scotus-overturns-roe-v-wade/ When you have a President telling his mob that there is going to be a revolution and that the Supreme court is trying to take your rights away there is no other choice than to be violent.
Or possibly Biden meant there would be a revolution at the ballot box?
Or maybe Biden wants you to masturbate more often so you are less crazy. Give that a try; twice before you post anything on any forum on the internet.
Doesn’t matter, diaper Joe knew his mob spent an entire summer torching cities and killing cops. He knew how unhinged his mob was an he didn’t care. He told them to go murder the Supreme Court and Trump supporters and now he’s gotten a teenager killed. Diaper Joe is a murderer
shareAren't you the guy that posts that violent crime went down under Trump, but also that the entire country was being burnt to the ground and armed gangs were holding entire cities hostage at the same time?
shareI didn’t say that, I said violent crime went up under President Diaper Joe and it only went up under Trump in defund the police cities run by Demokkkrats
shareFunny, you haven't called a poster above out for not quoting Trump saying "Riot in the capital" and let him get away with saying Trump saying "We have to take our country back" is telling people to riot.
Why is that? Why aren't you applying the same logic evenly?
(It's a rhetorical question. You have an obvious agenda that you have to adhere to.)
Who here claimed that Trump directly told people to "Riot in the capital"?
There is someone here who claimed that Biden "directly told his mob to murder the Supreme Court".
Someone said Trump didn't say to attack the capitol. Someone else said "Trump stated, in a speech before that horrendous event on January 6th....."We have to take our country back". What the hell do you think he was referring to? THAT, without a doubt in my mind, caused those right wing extremists to break into the capitol."
Thus, that person is saying "Take our country back" is in some how equivalent to "Attack the capitol", and nobody here attempted to correct them.
Then someone says Biden "directly told his mob to murder the Supreme Court" to which YOU are asking for a direct quote to prove that.
So, on the one hand, people here, including you, are not asking for direct quotes to incite violence from Trump, and are just accepting any old interpretation as being true for that, while asking for direct quotes from Biden to prove he said something.
But, I'm sure you'll forgive your own hypocrisy on such matters.
Thus, that person is saying "Take our country back" is in some how equivalent to "Attack the capitol", and nobody here attempted to correct them.
Then someone says Biden "directly told his mob to murder the Supreme Court" to which YOU are asking for a direct quote to prove that.
They are both attributing words not said by someone, to that person.
That may not be your fault, but you forgiving your own hypocrisy in not calling out both examples equally, is absolutely your fault. And entirely expected.
No they are not. You clearly don't understand English and the difference between "a direct" instruction to murder and words deemed to be inciting a riot.
shareYes, they are. Again, your reaction to being called out is predictable and obvious.
Someone clearly is saying Trump said to riot, when he didn't.
Why can't you admit they were wrong to do this?
Hillary was running a child sex brothel under a pizza parlor and no one cared or raided her house.
shareI heard it was a pizza parlor under a child sex brothel. And the pepperoni was made of turkey! Fake toppings! And yet the liberal media never mention this! The Democrats can get away with fake toppings and, for all we know, store-bought dough! Store-bought! Mike Lindell did a whole special about it. He has Hillary on tape saying, "Yeah, we figured nobody would notice and it'll mean an extra couple bucks profit on each pie." Of course the tape was lost (he left it in a jacket that got Martinized) but, I tell you, this is some serious shit that NOBODY is talking about! God help us all.
shareHow is destroying an email about classified information "Obstruction of Justice"?
shareOr he took some boxes of mundane and useless documents pertaining to his presidency that were of no consequence to anyone but him, and his opponents used it as an excuse for the latest in their string of baseless attacks on him.
shareHe was given the chance and refused to give them back. He gave them the "excuse" to go through due process of retrieving them.
share[–] FilmBuff (4977) a day ago
Or he took some boxes of mundane and useless documents pertaining to his presidency that were of no consequence to anyone but him, and his opponents used it as an excuse for the latest in their string of baseless attacks on him.
What happened is nothing like a hotel being upset someone took a towel. The left has weaponized the FBI against their political opponents, and you don't care because of how you vote. If the situation were reversed, and it were Obama, Biden, Hilary, or some other left-wing figure being unjustly targeted, perhaps you wouldn't be so flippant about it.
share[–] FilmBuff (4979) 8 hours agoDid you or did you not say this?
What happened is nothing like a hotel being upset someone took a towel.
[–] FilmBuff (4979) 2 days agoSure you did! You've deemed the government's documents mundane and useless. Basically equating these assets as non-impactful and non-consequential to the rule of law. But here is the rub. It doesn't matter if they are mundane and useless documents (which they aren't), the documents DON'T belong to DJT. If this is your idea of "entitlement" then it demonstrates just why DJT is in trouble with the DOJ. It is either willful "ignorance" or deliberate "defiance" that led him to take mundane and useless documents (your words) and then decide to lie about returning them after a court ordered subpoenae to return them.
Or he took some boxes of mundane and useless documents pertaining to his presidency that were of no consequence to anyone but him,
The left has weaponized the FBI against their political opponents,The NARA, the PRA, the DOJ, the FBI, a Subpoena, and the courts are not Left. They are government agencies with many many servants and officers. So all of those people and agencies are now, Left? How and when did this happen? But that is beside the point and nothing more than a deflection by you. DJT took what didn't belong to him. If he doesn't take them OR just returns them then you have your NOTHING-BURGER.
and you don't care because of how you vote.This is really an immature statement and accusation. I am neither Left nor Right when talking about this topic. When you practice "crime-ing" you should expect "Justice-ing".
If the situation were reversed, and it were Obama, Biden, Hilary, or some other left-wing figure being unjustly targeted,What does any of those politicians have to do with DJT? How do I reverse it? What crimes did President Obama do after he left office that I guess I am supposed to be outraged that he wasn't being harassed over? Same for Hillary Clinton. What transgressions has she committed since her run for President that haven't been litigated in the press that I should be offended about?
perhaps you wouldn't be so flippant about it.Filmbuff, it was you who decided to needlessly and deliberately categorize the documents searched and seized by a court ordered warrant as mundane and useless.
You're going overboard in your attempt to obfuscate the point.
This is no different than the Steele dossier, or any of the other attempts to discredit or impeach Trump. Him taking documents with him when he left office is meaningless. Every president has done similar, but no one cares, because no one should. It doesn't affect anything. It's only because it's Trump that there has been this response. He's a disruptive force to the entrenched, corrupt government, and they will do anything to stop him.
Try for a moment to separate yourself from the politics. Just because you vote a different way doesn't justify what is happening. Ask yourself what your opinion would be if it were the other way around. If you're being honest, you'll admit I'm right, and this is a travesty of justice.
[–] FilmBuff (4981) 4 hours agoQuite to the contrary. The title of this thread is, "Can his supporters accept he stole government documents? My responses to you have been to that point. At no point did I deviate from that and or suggest or imply that there is some political incentive for the Search and Seizure happening. You introduced the notion of "opponents". What evidence do you have that these alleged "opponents" have contributed to, suggested, initiated, the Search and Seizure, (which was completely predicated on DJT squirreling away sensitive government collateral without permission and or oversight)?
You're going overboard in your attempt to obfuscate the point.
This is no different than the Steele dossier, or any of the other attempts to discredit or impeach Trump.The Steele dossier was opposition research NOT done by the government. So how are they the same?
Him taking documents with him when he left office is meaningless.This is where you are being disingenuous. But I will give you the benefit of a doubt and just state that you just didn't know. No harm no foul.
Every president has done similar, but no one cares, because no one should.That right there is an extreme use of "Whataboutism" but is still very very wrongly stated. Previous presidents, vice-presidents, and members of the outgoing administration all have to follow a secure, approved, "process" which DJT and his lawyers were very much aware of. None of the documents that DJT removed were supposed to be in his possession and were under the exclusive administration of the PRA and the NARA. In your vernacular then the NARA is the opponent representing the people of the USA (both Republican, Democrat and even non-voter). Yes, this is DJT vs. the USA.
It doesn't affect anything.You know this HOW? Why would you be stating that? Secondly, the documents don't belong to DJT. This is the crux that you fail to acknowledge. Given everything that has come out with the statement of facts, (the Warrant, the Inventory) and now the affidavit, why do YOU maintain that it doesn't matter?
It's only because it's Trump that there has been this response.Reality Winner, Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, William Millay, Gen David Petraeus are all names that have gotten into trouble over documents.
Donald Trump in 2018 signed a sweeping national security bill into law."Trump certainly has legal exposure to Section 1924 given it was classified documents from his spaces in the White House that were removed to Mar-Lago," Moss said.
The bill increased punishments for those who mishandle classified information.
The measure is of note after the Mar-a-Lago raid, thought to be connected to government documents.
He's a disruptive force to the entrenched, corrupt government, and they will do anything to stop him.This is you injecting politics and also obfuscating. DJT is not an oversight committee, DJT is not an ethics board, DJT is a private citizen. What you stated is nothing more than a subjective political opinion based on marketing.
Try for a moment to separate yourself from the politics.Here is your dilemma that will be difficult for you to grasp: I've never taken this as political, so there is nothing for me to separate. I see this as "Crime-ing".
Just because you vote a different way doesn't justify what is happening.DJT's "Crime-ing" in this case isn't about ideology, or identity, or status, or sex, or physical handicap, or status. DJT took "stuff" that doesn't belong to him.
Ask yourself what your opinion would be if it were the other way around.My opinion is that ANYONE taking "stuff" that doesn't belong to them should be held accountable. Full stop. There is no sliding scale of politics.
If you're being honest, you'll admit I'm right, and this is a travesty of justice.Here is another rub that doesn't work for you. You believe yourself to be right and "feel" that is all that matters. DJT's actions weren't taking your feelings and or his supporters' "feelings" into account when he removed the people's "stuff". I guess you believe the justification for what he did was that DJT was rooting out injustice and corruption by breaking federal laws? share
Well, now that the affidavit has been released, it's clear I was right. There's probably no more need to even discuss this, though I'm guessing you'll employ more verbal gymnastics in an attempt to justify your untenable position.
share[–] FilmBuff (5044) 19 days agoTime has passed and the initial release of the Affidavit in no way deemed you right. I struggle to even imagine what you read, or what you heard, or what you interpreted that lead you to conclude that you were right and it was "clear". How?
Well, now that the affidavit has been released, it's clear I was right.
There's probably no more need to even discuss this,Oh yes, there is a need to discuss this further and maybe to ad nauseum. Friends don't let other friends stay in the "sunken places" that they have invented for themselves to support their own "manufactured" grievances.
though I'm guessing you'll employ more verbal gymnastics in an attempt to justify your untenable position.You've guessed incorrectly, and I don't have an (allegation by you) untenable position or even tone.
If photographic evidence of DJT performing a back street abortion on an underage girl was included in the affidavit Filmbuff and co would be saying that everybody does it and accusing the Supreme Court of moving the goalposts with RoeVWade in order just to entrap him.
shareEven Sean Hannity couldn't steer DJT away from ranting about "Crime-Ing"!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/that-was-amazing-morning-joe-crew-roasts-hannity-for-trying-to-move-on-in-middle-of-trump-confession/ar-AA19sv2N?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e05240ad84194d4ab58c7e9801b680d0&ei=11
Additionally, there is new evidence that DJT himself is seen going through the boxes: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-mar-a-lago-mess-has-come-back-to-haunt-him-just-in-time-for-tomorrow-s-arraignment/ar-AA19qx8p
Per WaPo:share
In the classified documents case, federal investigators have gathered new and significant evidence that after the subpoena was delivered, Trump looked through the contents of some of the boxes of documents in his home, apparently out of a desire to keep certain things in his possession, the people familiar with the investigation said.
Investigators now suspect, based on witness statements, security camera footage, and other documentary evidence, that boxes including classified material were moved from a Mar-a-Lago storage area after the subpoena was served, and that Trump personally examined at least some of those boxes, these people said. While Trump’s team returned some documents with classified markings in response to the subpoena, a later FBI search found more than 100 additional classified items that had not been turned over.
"I'd be most concerned about the document case in Mar-a-Lago," Barr told ABC's This Week. "He had no claim to those documents, especially the classified documents. They belong to the government. And so I think he was jerking the government around, and they subpoenaed it, and they tried to jawbone them into delivering the documents."https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bill-barr-predicts-good-chance-trump-will-be-indicted-over-mar-a-lago-documents/ar-AA19EAmS
"The government is investigating the extent to which games were played, and there was obstruction and keeping the documents from them. And I think that's a serious potential case. I think they probably have some very good evidence there," he added.
[–] FilmBuff (5619) 7 months agoLooks like the documents that DJT stole, and I don't say that lightly, are missing their SCIF sanctuary.
Or he took some boxes of mundane and useless documents pertaining to his presidency that were of no consequence to anyone but him, and his opponents used it as an excuse for the latest in their string of baseless attacks on him.
What's the point of a post like this? Since Trump announced his candidacy for the 2016 election there has been a never-ending stream of so-called news reports accusing him of just about anything imaginable. Twice he went through impeachment hearings on absurd pretenses. He was blamed for a non-existent insurrection. One could write numerous books chronicling the slander, libel, defamation, and abuse lobbed his way, and no doubt many people will. So yes, you have found one of a million or more articles vaguely accusing him of something we'll likely never know the truth about, though so many of the accusations against him have proven false that it's nothing more than thousands of boys crying wolf over and over again.
So no, my opinion hasn't changed. He's a brusque and boorish man who, to my great surprise, became one of the best presidents the nation has had, and he's paid the price for it.
That's it right there. It's been a witch-hunt from day one of his campaign orchestrated by the Left and simply because they dislike and fear the man. There have been so many "damning, career ending" moments that went nowehere, you can only laugh when the latest one comes up. At least these idiots are keeping Trump's name active in the news.
share[–] whynotwriteme (6404) 3 months agoHouston, the DOJ and the FBI have hunted down and captured the "Witch". share
That's it right there. It's been a witch-hunt from day one of his campaign orchestrated by the Left and simply because they dislike and fear the man.
You're so proud that the USA has adopted Banana Republic politics and weaponized its agents against the opposition.
share[–] whynotwriteme (6405) 16 minutes agoI think I understand you now.
You're so proud that the USA has adopted Banana Republic politics and weaponized its agents against the opposition.
[–] FilmBuff (5622) a day agoThe point was in the title of the thread: Can his supporters accept he stole government documents? That's it. It is NOT an ideological dispute or a political debate. But I do appreciate your expressing your exasperated passion in regard to all things DJT. My personal opinion is that your "feelings" are misdirected on this topic.
What's the point of a post like this?
So yes, you have found one of a million or more articles vaguely accusing him of something we'll likely never know the truth about,The article that I linked was about his lawyer basically being called in to corroborate the veracity and or authenticity of a legal document. I also find it quite odd for you to imply that many of the accusations against DJT have been proven false on one hand but are also vague accusations and just thousands of boys crying wolf over and over again. What??!!
So no, my opinion hasn't changed. He's a brusque and boorish man who, to my great surprise, became one of the best presidents the nation has had, and he's paid the price for it.I wasn't trying to change your opinion but I was seeking to create an understanding with the use of "facts", agreed upon "Truths", and open dialogue.
[–] FilmBuff (5827) 10 months agoDo you still believe this to be a baseless attack on DJT after this indictment?
Or he took some boxes of mundane and useless documents pertaining to his presidency that were of no consequence to anyone but him, and his opponents used it as an excuse for the latest in their string of baseless attacks on him.
"Barr said he believes that Trump lied to the Department of Justice when he had his lawyers claim that he had returned all classified documents. He called it "indefensible" behavior, which he argued has resulted in a deserved prosecution.share
Barr rejected the argument from some Republicans that Trump is being unfairly subjected to a double standard because Hillary Clinton was herself not prosecuted for using a private email server while Secretary of State. A 2018 review by the Department of Justice's inspector general determined that the prosecutors rightly decided not to charge Clinton with a crime based on available evidence, not undue political influence.
"That's not unfair to Trump," Barr said, "because this is not a case where Trump is innocent and being unfairly hounded. He committed the crime, or if he did commit the crime, it's not unfair to hold them to that standard."
Aside from the question of whether Trump should be prosecuted, Barr said Republicans should be asking themselves whether they should nominate a man who is accused of sharing national defense secrets with unauthorized individuals."
I think it is simply that he them because he believed they were his. He has no concept of right and wrong, he does what he wants. He does not think that laws apply to him.
sharereply share ignore reportI wholeheartedly agree with that He said as much when he broke the news!!
[–] Information-Police (1617) 2 hours ago
I think it is simply that he took them because he believed they were his.
He has no concept of right and wrong,He absolutely has a concept and understanding of Right and Wrong.
he does what he wants.This is very true and he will TRY doing whatever he wants and once you confront him he will scream persecution!
He does not think that laws apply to him.BINGO! Narcissistic Behavior Disorder in his finest form! share
I see your point on "right and wrong." But I think it's really that he understands what's legal and what isn't and so he has so many lawyers. He doesn't avoid committing crimes because he knows it is wrong. He may do it anyway because he doesn't care if it's wrong and has learned he can lawyer his way away from the law. That needs to stop.
shareDJT thinks he knows everything, knows more than anyone and is smarter than everybody. Being wrong to him is a weakness and he will never admit to EVER being wrong, but he clearly knows the difference.
When he is wrong, he will just say he was right. "I was against the war before I was for the war."
DJT's biggest fault is that he can and never will submit to oversight or accountability.
And now we have the curious case of Jack Teixeira:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/massachusetts-guardsman-jack-teixeiras-detention-hearing-postponed-in-leaked-document-case/ar-AA1a3biL
Jack might get the same number of years as DJT for mishandling and stealing government secrets. Yikes!!!
who said he stole gov documents?
Hillary had hard drives destroyed with classified material and no one cared except for Trump. no one raided Hill Dog's house.
There was no need to perform a raid. HRC cooperated fully with that investigation. But you already knew that. Turn off the gaslight.
shareso she cooperated by destroying classified info? its amazing how nice and accommodating the Fbi was to Hillary. as we all know by now, no one messes with the Clintons.
shareYeah it was so nice of them to sabotage her campaign just days before an election with the Director of the FBI holding an unprecedented press conference.
shareTrump refused to comply with subpoenas and it seems now that he lied about returning material he was still in possession of.
shareThe question now remains if DJT, aka The Document Terrorist, has not only purloined other secret documents, but has also taken photos and or scans of the documents that he had/has in his possession.
Guaranteed the DOJ will have to search every place DJT defines as a residence or he has access to, like a certain gravesite on a Bedminster Golf Course?
Wiping and destroying hard drives is the exact opposite of taking classified documents. In fact, it was the proper and responsible thing to wipe and destroy hard drives to make sure there were no classified material on them.
share"Hillary had hard drives destroyed with classified material "
Can you, in your own words, explain why that is wrong or illegal?
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shareSo, you can't.
shareI dont want to waste my time with someone that has TDS.
shareSays the guy obsessed with somebody who has been totally out of politics for over 6 years. HDS, lol
shareexplain why its ok for Hillary to destroy gov property? I will wait.
shareWell, first off, explain how she destroyed government property, the I'll try to answer your question.
One of Hillary Clinton's aides told the FBI that on two occasions he disposed of her unwanted mobile devices by breaking or hammering them.
Former secretary of state Hillary Clinton failed to provide any new documents to the congressional panel investigating the Benghazi terrorist attacks, instead notifying the committee that she has “wipe[d] her server clean,” the lead investigator announced.
“After seeking and receiving a two week extension from the Committee, Secretary Clinton failed to provide a single new document to the subpoena issued by the Committee and refused to provide her private server to the Inspector General for the State Department or any other independent arbiter for analysis,” Representative Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.), the chairman of the select committee investigating the attacks, announced Friday evening.
“We learned today, from her attorney, Secretary Clinton unilaterally decided to wipe her server clean and permanently delete all emails from her personal server,” he continued. “While it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department.”
How do you return an email?
shareOne of Hillary Clinton's aides told the FBI that on two occasions he disposed of her unwanted mobile devices by breaking or hammering them.
Former secretary of state Hillary Clinton failed to provide any new documents to the congressional panel investigating the Benghazi terrorist attacks, instead notifying the committee that she has “wipe[d] her server clean,” the lead investigator announced.
“After seeking and receiving a two week extension from the Committee, Secretary Clinton failed to provide a single new document to the subpoena issued by the Committee and refused to provide her private server to the Inspector General for the State Department or any other independent arbiter for analysis,” Representative Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.), the chairman of the select committee investigating the attacks, announced Friday evening.
“We learned today, from her attorney, Secretary Clinton unilaterally decided to wipe her server clean and permanently delete all emails from her personal server,” he continued. “While it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department.”
How do you return an email?
share“After seeking and receiving a two week extension from the Committee, Secretary Clinton failed to provide a single new document to the subpoena issued by the Committee and refused to provide her private server to the Inspector General for the State Department or any other independent arbiter for analysis,” Representative Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.), the chairman of the select committee investigating the attacks, announced Friday evening.One of Hillary Clinton's aides told the FBI that on two occasions he disposed of her unwanted mobile devices by breaking or hammering them.“We learned today, from her attorney, Secretary Clinton unilaterally decided to wipe her server clean and permanently delete all emails from her personal server,” he continued. “While it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department.”Former secretary of state Hillary Clinton failed to provide any new documents to the congressional panel investigating the Benghazi terrorist attacks, instead notifying the committee that she has “wipe[d] her server clean,” the lead investigator announced.
share[–] JoWilli (9608) 3 days agoYou do realize that HRC didn't destroy any physical government property, don't you? share
explain why its ok for Hillary to destroy gov property? I will wait.
Face it, you are obsessed over something you don't understand. You are just aping things that others have said and you don't have a clue what it means. Please, tell me that HRC "acid washed" her hard drive or something else stupid like that. Good grief!
shareI understand. basically dems have said its ok for them to have and destroy gov property/classified docs. but if republicans do the same its a crime. you need to pick a side.
shareWhat documents were destroyed by a Democrat? If the problem is that synergistic has an electronic COPY of a government succulent, then they only way they can NOT have it is to delete it from their system. They can't RETURN IT.
Just think for a minute!
so its ok for Trump to have classified documents because there is a electronic COPY of a government succulent? basically having and/or destroying classified documents is not a crime.
thanks for clearing that up.
Hillary had emails with information that was classified after she got them. Trump had actual physical documents that he took from the White House, didn't return and lied about having them. Can you understand the difference or are you stupid?
sharethe President has the ability to declassify top secret documents, hillary doesnt. he didnt lie about having them. he said they were declassified. the DOJ has yet to prove anything yet and if Trump was guilty then something would have happened by now. just another nothingburger just like his taxes.
shareTrump has contradicted himself many times on the idea that he declassified the documents
sharewhether he did or didnt, thats up to the DOJ to figure out and if having classified docs is a crime than I assume Trump will be indicted/arrested soon. when will the walls of justice close in on Trump?
share[–] JoWilli (10549) 2 months agoWell your assumptions came to fruition. Excellent job!! share
whether he did or didnt, thats up to the DOJ to figure out and if having classified docs is a crime than I assume Trump will be indicted/arrested soon.
[–] JoWilli (10670) 10 months agoDJT did. That's who. He wants YOU to think that these documents belonged to him because he IS El Presidente!! share
who said he stole gov documents?
Trump's attitude towards doing that which is unlawful is the same as those assholes who tell themselves that stop lights are for everyone else, "you stop because you want to." And his supporters are so keen to lick the shit encrusted to his unwiped ring that they will tell everybody that running red lights is what you're SUPPOSED to do. If you are a disgraced, twice impeached, single term loser president whose name is Donald Trump.
shareAt this point I wouldn't trust any of the sides.
But one thing is sure: Trump shouldn't run in 2024. And neither Biden ...
This. Why in God's name would someone willingly take either side, and do so with such fervor. People. Can't figure 'em out.
shareWhy not Biden?
And I agree that both sides are tainted, but I don't see Biden as particularly worse than anyone else on either side of the aisle.
Dementia? He doesn’t know what the duck he’s doing/saying? Hey had confidential documents as well (since we are on this topic)?
His policies are damaging the USA?
Have you ever read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf?"
shareThe thing is... I think all Presidents have done this. That's how they knew what's up.
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Exactly. Not only did the Clintons take files but all the White House dinner service as well...
That is not true.
shareQ: Did Bill and Hillary Clinton return furniture and silverware they took from the White House in 2001?
A: Yes. The Clintons returned more than $200,000 worth of items, which, they said, they thought were personal gifts given to them and not to the White House.
What files did they take?
shareyou mean silverware?
we dont know what files they took because the FBI has not raided the Clintons house yet.
Hillary destroyed hard drives with classified info,. according to the dems this is a crime because classified info is supposed to be turned over to the national archives.
But what about Hillary? That is getting old. Hillary was investigated and questioned for hours and nothing was found. Time to move on.
shareyou mean the FBI that is controlled by democrats? lol of course they didnt find anything.
shareThe director of the FBI was appointed by Trump. I didn't know he's a Democrat.
shareGarland was appointed by Biden, who told the FBI to raid Trumps house.
oops at facts.
Oops indeed! Garland is not the director of the FBI. Christopher Wray is and was appointed by Trump.
On July 20, 2017, the Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously recommended to confirm Wray as the next Director of the FBI. Wray was officially confirmed by the Senate with bipartisan support on August 1, 2017; the vote was 92–5. He was sworn in by Attorney General Jeff Sessions in a private ceremony on August 2, 2017. Wray was formally sworn in on September 28, 2017, in a ceremony that was not attended by President Trump, marking the first time an FBI director has been sworn in without the President who nominated him present at the ceremony.
---Wikipedia
Biden Is Said to Pick Merrick Garland as Attorney General
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/merrick-garland-attorney-general.html
The DOJ approved the raid.
oops again!
I would certainly hold a grudge against the GOP if I were Garland, if not for them he'd be on the SCOTUS!
thats how politics works. he is pissed he didn't get picked, now he is getting revenge.
if the republicans take the House this fall, everyone will blame them for anything bad that happens.
"he is pissed he didn't get picked, now he is getting revenge."
Indeed he is, and it is truly glorious!
They had to take them out of the Whitehouse and stash them in their home in order to know what's up?
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