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Why do Christians like Trump so much?


I sometimes wonder why do Christians like Trump so much, I was watching a video where a Christian woman claims Jesus has told Trump not to give up and for him to get his rightful job as president back.

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They don't want to get over it because that love was the centre of their lives.

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Are you talking about Trump being the love that was the center of their lives?

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CNN feels the same way...

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Maybe it's because of those two Corinthian guys.

“Two Corinthians, right? Two Corinthians 3:17, that’s the whole ballgame. Where the spirit of the Lord—right?—is, there is liberty!”

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They're not actually Christian, they are CINO, Christian In Name Only. Kind of like a RINO.

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That is quite true.
After all, Jesus Christ was the quintessential liberal.

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How so?

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The teachings of Jesus Christ are quite liberal.

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Can you give an example?

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Sure. When the rednecks wanted to stone the adulteress to death, as prescribed by the conservative laws of Moses, Jesus admonished them against it. That was quite liberal for the time.

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He then told the woman to end her sinful lifestyle. Liberals embrace sinful lifestyles.

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No, and just because you define liberalism that way does not make it so. Liberals believe in tolerance and that was one act (of many) of tolerance by Jesus Christ.

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He was tolerant of behavior where there was no sin involved. He did not tolerate sinful behavior.

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He forgave sins the moment you repented them.

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Repentance isnt just repeating a prayer or some words. It has to be granted by God. Scripture likens a "CINO"/false convert as a dog returning to its vomit, so yeah the idea that you can just repent, and God suddenly becomes tolerant of your sinful behaviour, is quite wrong but I can see why many CINOs like this false theology.

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Then that would not be the definition of tolerance.

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Trump is a known athiest but he pretended to be a Christian during his presidential campaign so religious people would vote for him. Apparently it worked.

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Yes, it worked.

Don The Con and those two Corinthian guys.

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It would go against Trump's lifestyle if he was truly Christian. You cannot follow God if you simultaneously follow money, women and material possessions. He is a Cino.

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Hes a CINO but not for the reasons you mentioned. Especially money, you can be a billionaire and still be saved, like King Solomon.

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Can you be saved if you continue to sexually assault women as a perk of wealth? Repenting does not count if you continue to sin in the same way, does it? I'm not a christian, so I don't know if it does.

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No, if you are living in an unrepentant sin, you very likely are not saved according to scripture. Jesus, said "my sheep hear my voice, they follow me". Also, 1 John 3:9 says those "born of God, do not make a practice of sinning".
AFAIK, Donald Trump has never repented and he has never demonstrated a change in his behaviour. He seems to have no problem cursing, for example.

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The way Biden pretends to care about women and POC?

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“Two Corinthians, right? Two Corinthians 3:17, that’s the whole ballgame. Where the spirit of the Lord—right?—is, there is liberty!”

You just gotta love those two Corinthian guys!

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On May 4, 2017, Trump signed the "Presidential Executive Order Promoting Free Speech and Religious Liberty."[18] The executive order does not repeal the Johnson Amendment, nor does it allow ministers to endorse from the pulpit, but it does halt the enforcement of its consequences [19] by directing the Department of Treasury that "churches should not be found guilty of implied endorsements where secular organizations would not be."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Amendment

The Johnson Amendment is a provision in the U.S. tax code, since 1954, that prohibits all 501(c)(3) non-profit organizations from endorsing or opposing political candidates. Section 501(c)(3) organizations are the most common type of nonprofit organization in the United States, ranging from charitable foundations to universities and churches. The amendment is named for then-Senator Lyndon B. Johnson of Texas, who introduced it in a preliminary draft of the law in July 1954.

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Simple. Despite their sanctimonious holy-than-thou exterior, they like winning even more (as do most Americans). The net result of Trump's presidency was a 6-3 Supreme Court (plus many other judges appointed by Trump), plus ultra-conservative officials in many state governments. If the cost is Trump or some-one very much like installing themselves as a dictator then there are many that seem willing to pay it. Having principles is all well and good, but winning is not just everything but the only thing.

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Well, the alternative is a group of people called liberals who mock Christians.

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What Christians? I see a lot of power hungry creeps hiding behind the Bible and waving flags.

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You see what you want to see. That's why Christians like Trump more than they do you.

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What I mostly see is people identifying as christians who mock christians that do not act like the CINO's

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Liberals are not Christians. They don't even pretend.

They will, however, shame any Christian for not doing what Jesus would do!

Such as abortions.

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What a Christian outlook you have, roger rabbit.

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I do, in fact, have a very Christian outlook.

Part of that is not cheering on abortions.

It used to be that the left were reluctant supporters of abortion. Rare but safe.

Today, they are almost rabid in their determination to make abortion plentiful but safe.

What a society in decay.

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Judge not lest ye be judged.

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Liberals judge everything.

They act like they are the most moral people ever.

While sucking the brains out of an unborn infant.

And then riot and loot the local stores, forcing many of them to shut down.

Defunding the police, forcing them to retire, and we are losing the ability to protect the most vulnerable.

They inspired young teens to beat up elderly women.

It goes on and on. Liberals are the worst in America.

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You seem awfully judgemental considering that you claim to be a Christian.

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I am not a perfect Christian. When I see liberals destroying our very culture, I do feel compelled to point it out.

When a liberal walks up behind an elderly woman and hits her in the head with a bat? I feel compelled to point out how vile that is.

You don't.

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Those are quite vile thing, roger rabbit, for a Christian to be saying.

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You think pointing out violence is vile?

That's why your side is immoral. And losing more support by the day.

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Roger rabbit: the vile and judgemental "Christian."

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Stating the obvious.

If liberals don't want to be called vile, they need to stop being vile.

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Roger rabbit, I don't care if you call me vile or anything else that comes to your mind.
But I think you might want to reconsider referring to yourself as a Christian.

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Why would I do that?

Since you don't seem to understand, a Christian never claimed to be perfect. We make mistakes. We all do since we are human. That doesn't mean we abandon Christianity.

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Hmmm . . . that is convenient. I will give you that much.

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It's the truth. No one claims to be perfect.

Except Michelle Obama, of course.

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Ooh! Still more Christian judgmental vileness!

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How?

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It is very stupid to deal in absolutes like you're doing now. Is MTG a liberal now because she wants police to be defunded?

Trump is a hero to some conservatives, but he claims to sexually assault woman as a perk of wealth. So is Trump a liberal?

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/defund-the-fbi-marjorie-taylor-greene-melts-down-over-mar-a-lago-raid/
https://www.newsweek.com/matt-gaetz-tweets-defund-fbi-then-deletes-it-amid-fbi-probe-1603550

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I am not dealing in absolutes.

I am reacting to the modern liberals and what they do.

They riot, loot, assault, there is nothing peaceful about them at all.

They are NOTHING like liberals from just 20 years ago.

What good does the modern liberal do for America? Besides keep firefighters busy.

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You said liberals are not christians. You also said liberals judge everything. You should have said "some liberals".

So what is a modern liberal, how do they differ from liberals.

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No. Not 'some'.

If you call yourself a liberal, you are just as guilty as those liberals who commit these heinous acts since you say nothing critical of them.

That's why I no longer call myself a liberal.

Liberals today are unrecognizable from the classic term.

Do you honestly think liberals today have any decency?

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So guilt by association then? That is immoral.

So what are these classic liberals? How would I recognize one?

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We ENCOURAGED discussion. We didn't shout it down and try to suppress dissenting voices.

That's one glaring example.

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Lots of people prove their claims by making up new definitions for words. How do you define the words liberal and christian?

The American Heritage dictionary says liberal means; "one who is open-minded or not strict in the observance of orthodox, traditional, or established forms or ways".

Merriam Webster defines christian as "one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ".

So using these definitions, how do you defend your claim that liberals are not christians?

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Oh come on!

The modern liberal? I am a classic liberal. The modern liberal is intolerant and close-minded.

What year do you think this is?

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Don't go chicken-sh-t on me. I gave you a dictionary definition of liberal. Here you are making up a new phrase; "classic liberal". Got a definition that most people recognize?

How do you define "liberal" and "christian"?

ETA; it is 2022.

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You are the one who just went chickenshit.

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Did you notice that I have answered your question, but you're evading giving answer to mine? You are a coward.

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Give you a definition of Christian? So you can be a liberal and shit all over it.

Christians are overwhelmingly tolerant, decent, peaceful and smarter than liberals. I will say that much.

They don't burn down buildings in protest. They don't loot stores in protest.

They don't assault elderly women on the street. They don't toss people on the tracks in front of a train.

They don't shoot up streets and kill children every week in Chicago.

I could go on but you get the point.

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The point is that you are a coward who makes claims then refuses to defend those claims. So yeah, I got your point.

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What claim are you babbling about?

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if Christians like Trump, then that means that Satanists like Joe.

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