What was his downfall as President? - Donald Trump Discussion

[–] onemanarmy82 (1764) 3 years ago

How would you have handled the plandemic? Democrats/liberals always point their fingers but, they never give an answer.

This country was divided WAY before President Trump got into office!

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

If Biden had been president, he would have been slow to respond, scared to offend anyone, the virus would have spread faster and all over America. The death rate likely 3-4 times worse.

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[–] onemanarmy82 (1764) 3 years ago

Exactly. And then some!

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[–] djangounlamed (1769) 3 years ago

"exactly! YAY my echo chamber agrees! exactly!"

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

I can't see anything Biden has said or done in the past that would make me believe he can handle any crisis. Wasn't he the one against killing bin Laden? He called the travel ban 'xenophobic'. That alone shows you how scared he would be to offend the Chinese! Trump took decisive action and then took steps to replenish the depleted PPE (thank you, Obama!) and worked with manufacturers to produce more ventilators, which Cuomo praised him for, either before or after he murdered thousands of elderly nursing home residents. He has tried repeatedly to work with the idiot Pelosi on a second stimulus and even agreed to her own numbers and she still wouldn't budge. So much for Dems caring for Americans.
The odd thing is the second wave came just weeks after all the riots started. Gee, I wonder if they were related?

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[–] djangounlamed (1769) 3 years ago

"Wasn't he the one against killing bin Laden?"

educate yourself before spreading nonsense.

im immediately done after reading that garbage. enjoy your echo chamber and made up lies. you clearly cant discern reality from facts

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

Yeah, I looked it up. Biden told Obama not to go ahead with that operation to get bin Laden. Yeah, he is something else under pressure! Not that Obama was much better. He wilted under Benghazi.

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[–] djangounlamed (1769) 3 years ago

No there wasn't enough information. Biden said wait til we can confirm that Bin Laden is there. Given the dangers of doing a special ops in an allied country.

ohh Benghazi now too. LOL like I said im done. enjoy your conspiracies!

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

Yep. Arguably Obama's best moment that everyone cheered and the idiot Biden told him not to do it. LOL

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[–] djangounlamed (1769) 3 years ago

Again invading another country to do that is a big deal. anyways enjoy your conspiracies! from your other posts its clear you are a crazy person

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

Yes, it was a big deal. That's was leading is all about. Biden whiffed. I could not stand Obama but at least he got UBL.

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[–] djangounlamed (1769) 3 years ago

Until it failed and Osama wasn't there and your ally Pakistan finds out you didn't a special ops in their country. then all of a sudden the media knows and you can lose an election over that or lose it for the next guy. recommending caution til confirmation is obtained isnt Biden failing. obama got lucky the intel was correct. You really think tis the first intel the USa got about Osamas whereabout and launched an op over it?

again the worlds so simple cause you dont live in reality. stick to your conspiracy sites

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[–] Alex (1478) 3 years ago

Where I come from that's called a "circlejerk", roflmao.

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[–] christomacin (4529) 3 years ago

Not building sufficient political bridges and coalitions, and treating the electorate as a zero sum game.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

He got 70 million votes!

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[–] christomacin (4529) 3 years ago

He needed 76 million votes and more importantly 270 Electoral votes... and didn't get them. To insure this, he needed to expand more beyond his base, which he maybe did to a very slight degree but not near enough to win.

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[–] djangounlamed (1769) 3 years ago

weirdly the dedicated base backfired. Id always seen it as a solid sure foot group who would mobilize and turn up. which it does. turns out if you throw this group too much red meat and ignore the peripherals no matter how many guys overcompensating with big trucks and Maga stickers you still cant win

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

Well, two things. HE GOT 70 MILLION VOTES! That is way more than he got last time. How is that turning backs on him? That literally is EXPANSION.
And there is no way that idiot Biden got that many votes. Guaranteed there is something seriously wrong going on with the voting in several key states.

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[–] christomacin (4529) 3 years ago

In other words, Biden expanded Hilary's base much more successfully than Trump expanded his from 2016. If Trump was too much of a political child to understand he needed to build his base into a true majority that's no one's fault but his. Richard Nixon narrowly won in 1968 in one of the closest elections in American history, but then went on to win reelection in 1972 by one of the biggest popular and electoral landslides in American history. Think what ever you want of Nixon, he understood politics.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

No. I think Soros and the DNC had more to do with those 'votes'. I cannot at all believe that idiot Biden got that many votes. It's just impossible.

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[–] christomacin (4529) 3 years ago

Soros, Soros, Soros, Soros... the same lame shit over and over again, and somehow miraculously no concrete evidence is ever discovered. We are tired of the conspiracy theories.

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[–] djangounlamed (1769) 3 years ago

These guys are unstable.
'I dont like reality so my conspiracy theory must be true"

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

It is lame. It is also quite likely the truth. But how can you explain that idiot Biden getting so many votes? It makes no sense at all. That's the whole problem. I'd accept if Trump had about the same turnout as last time and Biden won. But he had a record number of votes! It makes no sense.

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[–] christomacin (4529) 3 years ago

They both had record numbers of votes... the country has a much larger population than ever before and the turn out ratio was record breaking this cycle. What is the conceptual problem you are having here? And don't give me the anecdotal "boat parades and rallies" crap.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

No, it makes sense Trump got more than last time. He has a great record only blemished by the China virus, which no objective person should blame him for.
But that idiot Biden? The 47 years in public office with nothing to show for it Biden? The man who gropes and kissing and sniffs the hair of young girls Biden? LOL
No way in hell. I don't know how the Dems did but they had a plan in place to put Biden ahead in those states if necessary. And they had to have the cooperation of key people in those polling stations.
They would do it, too. After all, they are told daily Trump is Hitler. That gives them an excuse to cheat every time.

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[–] christomacin (4529) 3 years ago

You're not an objective person, so I pretty much tuned you out after the first two lines.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

Of course. We spent three years on Russian collusion. The Dems repeatedly went on tv and said Trump is not the legitimate president, called him racist for all his four years, impeached him over a phone call and then blamed him for every single China virus death! But I am not objective? LOL

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[–] christomacin (4529) 3 years ago

Crucified like Christ, eh? And yet, for all that Trump lost.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

No. The ballots are not in and they are certainly going to be doing recounts and audits. I mean Gore took 37 days before he conceded. Trump deserves at least that much time. It would be interesting to see how many riots liberals throw if it turns out Trump did win. You will notice conservatives did not riot at all? Take note of that.

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[–] christomacin (4529) 3 years ago

Of course... who is claiming there shouldn't be recounts? If Trump wishes to wait that long he can. Gore didn't really have the option of doing a recount because (a) there was no objective way of getting both sides to agree on the intent of the butterfly ballots, and (b) because Supreme Court ordered the counts to stop. But you're conflating counting ballots with claiming ballots not for Trump are, must be, fake, aren't you?

And by all means, military ballots and other overseas ballots should be counted. It is absolutely possible that Georgia for instance could turn red if the military ballots go mostly Trump, especially considered Georgia is home to a lot of military bases. The problem is it is unheard of for a recount to change the outcome by more than a a few hundred, a thousand at most. AND, Trump would have overturn the outcomes of at least three states.

Let's assume Trump maybe does squeak out Arizona or Georgia... he still needs more states. Minus any credible claim of fraud, Trump is absolutely free to move forward with recounts, but, like Gore, the potential political cost to both Trump and his party (not to mention) have to be considered. Making claims beyond that with no strong evidence is even more damaging in the long run. If the courts reject the fraud claims, and the recounts don't change anything... will Trump concede then? Yes or no? For the GOP Senate, how much is keeping Trump worth the very real possibility of loosing the Georgia run-off elections for the Senate (which could cause the Senate to go Democratic)? That's up to Trump.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

I think they should do a full recount and audit of every state in contention one way or another, no matter who is currently in the lead. I do believe in an honest election, free and fair, but this one STINKS. There is something seriously wrong going on in these states. The Dems attempted one coup with the Russian collusion. They attempted another one with the impeachment. Is this another attempt? I'd say yes, it is. The Dems feel morally compelled to get rid of 'orange Hitler'! LOL

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[–] djangounlamed (1769) 3 years ago

"And there is no way that idiot Biden got that many votes. Guaranteed there is something seriously wrong going on with the voting in several key states."

obama got 70 million vs mcain dropping down to 65 vs Romney. How is it unreasonable that given the times and controversy a slightly higher amount voted?

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

Because Obama was a great candidate. Even Republicans cheered when he was inaugurated. My own parents, lifelong Republicans, liked him. First black president and he was a great speaker. Biden is none of those things. He is a terrible speaker, he has no charm at all and he is the old white guy we were all supposed to be against! It's utterly insane.

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[–] djangounlamed (1769) 3 years ago

the population is 29 million higher now than Obama vs Mcain. so obma got 70 million votes and 12 years late with the population now 29 million higher. and with an extremely controversial well loved and well hated president. Ohh and a global pandemic. Its impossible turnout was higher?

wow only in your insane conspiracy head is this not possible.

yes you are utterly insane. seriously man seek help for your delusions

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

It's not delusion. It's objective! Biden is an idiot. He is a blithering fool. He has trouble constructing sentences on his own. Have you seen him interviewed recently where he can't rely on a script? He loses his train of thought every other sentence. I've seen it before, too. It's called dementia. He is a very old man and he looks and sounds like a very old man.

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[–] djangounlamed (1769) 3 years ago

gotta agree 100%

you could make the arguement that he was good on the economy by the corporate republican and democrat metrics. which doesnt actually mean good for the people. but both parties use this

but on covid he was a disaster. I mean sure his unwavering base who would back anything he says think its a conspiracy and he handled it great.

but those republicans who thought "well ya hes rough around the edges but will do what I like" couldn't deny covid. with over 200k deaths how many parents, kids, aunts, grandparents ect did that effect directly? They saw first hand the effects of a virus the president wasn't taking seriously.

"Its the economy stupid". until theres a highly dangerous contagious flu that he cant claim is just "playing politics" against him and "fake news"

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[–] Bubbathegut (17225) 3 years ago

Voter fraud, Joey WAP will be doing the perp walk soon.

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[–] TandyMan (10364) 3 years ago

His re-election campaign was god awful. He had no agenda for the next four years. He never touted any of his great achievements. The media wouldn't talk talk about them, it was his job to bring his accomplishments up at his rallies and in the debates and interviews, and he didn't. He was going through the whole process in the same lazy way he did the first time around.

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[–] AmeriGirl26 (12299) 3 years ago

People didn't turn their backs on him. The Democrats just got more desperate to steal the election from him. Good thing they're not doing so great a job of hiding it this time.

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[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Not giving a fuck about anyone but himself.

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