The Overall Problem With Trump and the Trump Board - Donald Trump Discussion

[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

But the idea that all negative comments about Trump and his personality shouldn't be allowed because he's president also goes against the original intent of the site.

No one has said this.

Occasionally someone posts a criticism about Trump that goes out of the realm of criticism and into hate speech. Those threads get deleted. This goes for threads about Trump and everyone else who has a board here.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

So the thread about Trump's comments about the Central Park 5 is perfectly fine then? Because none of that is political commentary. Thats merely a discussion about Trump's history of bigotry.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

No. It's about what he's said as president, and it's a political issue. It needs to go on the Politics board.

People are welcome to copy and paste threads like that on the Politics board, and discuss it there.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

Ok. Thats kinda what I was getting at when I wrote that quote. Since he is president anything he does or says will be deemed as political even if its not of a political nature. And thus we won't be allowed to comment on it here.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

Everything he says or does is now politicized. Even eating hamburgers. Bigotry is a political issue.

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[–] Gd5150 (10976) 5 years ago

Thank you for your service. It’s nice to know there are a still select few in the sea of fascist big tech willing to stand up for all Americans 1st amendment rights to free speech. Bravo moderator3. Bravo!

”Freedom of speech is a human right and the foundation upon which democracy is built. Any restriction of freedom of speech is a restriction upon democracy.” - Deeyah Khan, documentary film director and human rights activist of Punjabi/Pashtun descent. Two-time Emmy Award winner and the recipient of two BAFTA nominations.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

Moviechat is privately owned so freedom of speech does not apply. They can put any rules they want in their TOS.

I agree its wise to tread carefully on the slippery slopes of limiting speech. But the reality is if you don't like the rules then you have the freedom to go somewhere else or create your own site.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

Thank you, Gd150. However ultravioletx is correct. This is a privately owned site so First Amendment rights don't apply. We do though do our best to be as unbiased as we can in moderating, and to use a light a touch as reasonable while applying the site's rules.

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[–] Burk48917 (10966) 5 years ago

First amendment aside, what you are doing is still censorship based on your own political beliefs, and that is sad. Fascism exists in selective censorship, and yes, as a private site you are more than entitled to do that, but that doesn't make it right. It's actually very sad.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

What we are doing is enforcing the site's rules, which you and everyone else here agreed to abide by when you signed up.

We enforce the rules equally on members and posts, regardless of their political beliefs and content. Not surprisingly those who are on the left accuse us of being biased to the right, and those on the right accuse us of being biased to those on the left. This happens often.

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[–] Burk48917 (10966) 5 years ago

As I said, you have every right to. That doesn't make it ok, and I have serious doubts as to the actual balance, regardless if it occasionally happens both ways. Its a slant one way for sure. Just my opinion.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

Those who hold opinions in opposition to yours are equally sure it's slanted in your favor.

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[–] Burk48917 (10966) 5 years ago

Or maybe I'm right.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

One thing you have to keep in mind is that the moderators are generally only going to be deleting posts that are reported to them. If someone says something clearly out of line but no one bothers to report it, it's likely going to fly under the radar unless a mod happens upon it. A lot of posters, particularly on the Trump board, seem to enjoy back and forth insults so I'm guessing they often don't bother to report each other.

I think the simplest litmus test as to whether something may be deleted or not is if there is a personal attack against another poster. Look at the current politics board and how many pro-Trump posts are there. I'm guessing there are mods who differ with those opinions but if it's just one person's opinions or interpretations of the political scene, and the posts don't encourage violence, they will be left alone regardless of opinion. But once someone starts hurling personal insults at another user here, the post becomes fair game for reporting and deletion. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a post that was deleted simply because it was expressing an opinion the moderators didn't like.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

My argument is to actually START enforcing the rules around here, notably the first rule, NO TROLLING.

That rule is clearly not enforced, and now look at what you have: Trolls blatantly complaining that all rules are fascism or censorship.

I don't even know why rule #1 is there. It's only enforced through breaking other rules.

Trolling is obviously PERFECTLY WELCOME HERE if one does not break the other rules.

Until rule #1 is removed or enforced, I cannot recognize the legitimacy of any other rule. I flame and I got suspended DELIBERATELY just to see what it would take.

Enforce rule #1, PLEASE. If you need help creating a technical definition of trolling, please ask me for input, I have some ideas.

Thanks

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

QUOTE:

[My argument is to actually START enforcing the rules around here, notably the first rule, NO TROLLING.

That rule is clearly not enforced,

Trolling is obviously PERFECTLY WELCOME HERE[/b]

END QUOTE

Well PUT FROG !!!

I AGREE!!!

The [b]TROLLS constantly call others LIB TARD and HURL other NON STOP INSULTS like that AT THEM that BREAK the RULES.

But what people seem mostly concerned about is the TRENDING matter, which, imo, should not be the MAIN PRIORITY (which should also be to GET RID of the TROLLS who cause the TRENDING PROBLEM in the FIRST PLACE by posting 700 messages here in just 10 DAYS).

If one is a CELEBRITY or a PUBLIC PERSONALITY, in general, it's ok to say INSULTING things about them at a message board about them.

But it's NOT ok if one is a PRIVATE CITIZEN, because doing so also means what you're doing is attempting to PICK a FIGHT with them (which is TROLLING).

And since NOTHING has been done to STOP the NON STOP NAME CALLING and other INSULTS they keep FLINGING, you're right.

The impression one is left with is that TROLLING is WELCOME here.

So THANK YOU for pointing this out.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

I've been meaning to. Its my pleasure.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

So calling us Demokkkrats and Libtards is against the rules???

Why are they so strict about where we post stuff but they allow the No Trolling Rule to be broken?

There must be some mistake, otherwise there’s a clear bias in favor of pro trump trolls.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

https://moviechat.org/Standards

No trolling, flaming, spamming or unsolicited advertising

Content that harasses, intimidates or bullies an individual or group of individuals

Content that incites hatred against, promotes discrimination of, or disparages an individual or group on the basis of their race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, age, nationality, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or other characteristic that is associated with systemic discrimination or marginalization

Since Calling someone a LIBTARD implies that someone is a RETARD, that should definitely be against the RULES.

Because isn't NAME CALLING also AGAINST the RULES???

Because aren't LIBERALS are also members of a GROUP of INDIVIDUALS???

And, imo, POSTING over 700 MESSAGES in 10 DAYS should also be considered to be SPAMMING.

Whatever the case may be, I also agree about how a BIAS is being shown to the TROLLS.

Because as one also PREVIOUSLY tried to point out, the GOAL of the TROLL is also to SHUT DOWN or try to STOP or PREVENT the FLOW of FREE SPEECH that doesn't AGREE with what they say.

And they've also ACHIEVED that GOAL here at this board, where they've put a STOP to OPPOSING VIEWS being able to FLOW FORTH FREELY.

But they also still continue to keep BREAKING the RULES that were recently explained and put forth (about how one is only suppose to discuss FILMS and TV SHOWS here at this place).

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

1/2 It’s all right here:
Standards
Do not post or link to Prohibited Content as defined below
No trolling, flaming, spamming or unsolicited advertising
Do not impersonate other users, including Moderators, in a misleading or deceptive manner
Do not attempt to hack or crack MovieChat, including attempting to manipulate post count, attempting to bypass posting quotas, attempting to inject malicious code, attempting to manipulate the Trending section, or any other attempts to break, manipulate, or use the service in a way that was not intended by MovieChat
Do not attempt to evade these Standards or the enforcement thereof by creating multiple accounts, using different IP addresses or proxies, or any other means of evasion
Prohibited Content:
Pornography, adult or mature content
Content that threatens or advocates for harm on oneself or others, or otherwise violent content
Content that harasses, intimidates or bullies an individual or group of individuals
Content that incites hatred against, promotes discrimination of, or disparages an individual or group on the basis of their race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, age, nationality, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or other characteristic that is associated with systemic discrimination or marginalization
Excessive profanity
Hacking/cracking content
Malware, adware, or other malicious software or content
Illicit drugs and drug paraphernalia content
Content protected by copyright law unless you have the necessary legal rights to display that content. This includes pirated content, such as illegal torrents and streaming websites
Personal and confidential information, such as another user's name or contact information, unless you have express consent to post that information
Any other content that is illegal, promotes illegal activity or infringes on the legal rights of others

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

2/2 Enforcement
MovieChat's community Standards are actively enforced by our team of dedicated moderators. If you suspect a violation of these Standards, you can use the report button in the bottom right of a post to notify our moderators. Our moderators may also be contacted at [email protected]. Additionally, you may ignore a user by clicking the ignore button in the bottom right of a post or on that user's profile page, thereby hiding all posts from that user.

Our team of moderators have several tools at their disposal to enforce the Standards, including:
Warning you over private message or in reply to your post that you have violated the Standards
Removing or deleting your post that violated the Standards
Temporarily or permanently suspending your ability to post
What happens if you break a rule? In most circumstances, you will receive a warning from one of our moderators citing which rule you have broken. Depending on the severity of the violation, the offending post may also be removed, or you may be asked to edit it. If you continue to break the Standards and repeatedly ignore warnings, you risk having your ability to post temporarily or permanently suspended. However, you will always be able to view and read MovieChat.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

"No trolling, flaming"

Yep, rule #1 is not enforced. Only rule #2 is used to enforce rule #1 by proxy.

The result: Indirectly inflammatory trolling is welcome.

It's mathematical.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

Here's a SHOTER LIST that seems to apply more DIRECTLY to what the TROLLS do here:

https://moviechat.org/Standards

No trolling, flaming, spamming or unsolicited advertising

Content that harasses, intimidates or bullies an individual or group of individuals

Content that incites hatred against, promotes discrimination of, or disparages an individual or group on the basis of their race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, age, nationality, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or other characteristic that is associated with systemic discrimination or marginalization

Since Calling someone a LIBTARD implies that someone is a RETARD, that should definitely be against the RULES.

Because isn't NAME CALLING also AGAINST the RULES???

Because aren't LIBERALS are also members of a GROUP of INDIVIDUALS???

And, imo, POSTING over 700 MESSAGES in 10 DAYS should also be considered to be SPAMMING.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

^^^^^this

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

Yeah and the troll gaggle doesn't limit itself to Trump, no sir.

This board was simply overloaded with them, it was their median.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

"So calling us Demokkkrats and Libtards is against the rules???"

It's not considered flaming because it's not "you are stupid."

It's a TOE outside the rules of flaming, because flaming is "direct."

Indirect is STILL "roundabout" flaming but it's not enforced. It cuts off.

It's crap. It's B.S.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

I disagree that it’s not flaming just as bad as calling someone stupid directly.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

"So calling us Demokkkrats and Libtards is against the rules???"

It's not considered flaming because it's not "you are stupid."

It's a TOE outside the rules of flaming, because flaming is "direct."

Indirect is STILL "roundabout" flaming but it's not enforced. It cuts off.

It's crap. It's B.S.[/b]

WELL PUT again FROG.

I agree !!!

[b]What's also CLEAR is how they've also been SPAMMING the BOARD with BS as a way to SHOVE our TOPICS regarding CURRENT EVENTS to the BACK PAGES where they can't be seen.

So right from the START it was also ALREADY EVIDENT that THEIR GOAL was to PREVENT others with OPPOSING VIEWS from theirs of EXPRESSING THEM.

And now they've also GOTTEN THEIR WAY and what they wanted, which was to SHUT DOWN and STOP our ability to FREELY EXPRESS our VIEWS (just like the other TROLLS at imdb SHUT DOWN the ENTIRE MESSAGE board before with the way they TROLLED that place). ..

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

Yes, and they make a SHOW of it by congratulating each other on their quantity of empty spam. They openly flaunt blatant trolling because it is not enforced against

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

]Yes, and they make a SHOW of it by congratulating each other on their quantity of empty spam. They openly flaunt blatant trolling because it is not enforced against

And NOT ENFORCING the RULES against posting SPAM and TROLLING also creates the impression that the person who doesn't ENFORCE the RULES is in favor of what these TROLLS say and do.

And Someone else also asked me if one of the TROLLS might even be a MODERATOR, because they also see the same kind of BIAS taking place that you do in regards to POLICING the place.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

Editing... At this point I see one character per line so I have to type in the edit box.

I just remembered that when the Cosby trials were on, his mug was constantly trending. People complained about it constantly but MANAGEMENT and THE COMPANY couldn’t have cared less. They were perfectly fine with it or at least it seemed so since they never wrote us exasperated, chiding posts, nor did they corral us over to The Soapbox, or the Science as in Social Science board.

This lends credence to the theory that perhaps The Company is pro Trump, since pro Trump Trolling is allowed but any posts about a politician must be posted under politics to be buried by the rule breaking trolls.

Being pro trump is a choice but why not just come out and say so?

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

when the Cosby trials were on, his mug was constantly trending. People complained about it constantly but MANAGEMENT and THE COMPANY couldn’t have cared less. They were perfectly fine with it or at least it seemed so since they never wrote us exasperated, chiding posts, nor did they corral us over to The Soapbox, or the Science as in Social Science board.

This lends credence to the theory that perhaps The Company is pro Trump, since pro Trump Trolling is allowed but any posts about a politician must be posted under politics to be buried by the rule breaking trolls.

EXCELLENT POINT CX.

Since we've been given some kind of an EXCUSE EACH time we previously presented them with some FACT about what the TROLLS do, they'd probably also find another one for the COSBY matter.

But apparently they've also run out of PATIENCE and STOPPED giving replies back to us now, so we'll probably also never know why they ALLOWED people to post replies about that CELEBRITY RAPING women, but we're not ALLOWED to post messages here about the SCAM MAN RAPING the other woman inside of the DRESSING ROOM of the DEPARTMENT STORE.

Because RAPE is also OBVIOUSLY NOT a POLITICAL MATTER which is PROVEN by the way you say they ALLOWED conversations about it to take place at the COSBY board. .

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

Well, then again, it is rather generous of a PRO TRUMP SITE to allow opposing viewpoints at all, even if they favor their own pro trump trolls.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

The irony of your comment is that a few days ago under this same thread another user accused the mods of being anti-Trump (scroll up a bit). When the moderator explained they got just as many comments accusing them of being pro-Trump, the user didn't believe it.

It's not about pro/anti Trump sentiments. There is immature behavior from both sides (demokkkrats/rethuglikkkans/libtards,trumptards). The mods don't have the capacity to keep up with it all and the decision was made to move all talk regarding politics to the politics board. I don't see why it's such a big deal to some posters here but regardless of whether you like it or not, that's how it is so you may as well go with it.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

I don't see any PRO/ANTI conversations like the one you tell us to SCROLL UP to see. Perhaps that's something that took place on another DIFFERENT TOPIC???

Whatever the case may be, the EASY way to handle the problem was to SIMPLY DELTE the account of the TROLL who posted over 700 MESSAGES here in 10 days (which resulted in another 700 replies back to them if everyone responded to them).

But instead of ONE CLICK to END the TRENDING ISSUE the TROLL was causing, the MOD created a lot of EXTRA WORK for themselves by DELETING SEVERAL MORE TOPICS at the POLITICS BOARD as a way to ACCOMODATE the TROLL that MOST of us don't want to deal with either at this BOARD or over at that other one.

So the question remains as to WHY the MOD is showing FAVORITISM to the TROLL that caused the problem. And the answer is the TROLL didn't cause the problem because the problem existed for a LONGER TIME than the TROLL has been here.

Which still MAKES NO SENSE that they wouldn't DELETE the account of someone who was FLAGRANTLY ABUSING the POSTING RULES by posting LOTS of SPAM here.

WHY IGNORE that and the way that TROLL had behaved???

WHY NOT SIMPLY DELETE that ACCOUNT when it's CLEAR the MAIN reason why that poster was here was to START UP FLAME WARS with other posters here, and to do whatever else they could to SHOVE our TOPICS to the BACK PAGES where they couldn't be seen anymore, which is also the same thing that they're doing now over at the POLITICS BOARD???

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

It's in this thread. Scroll up and look at the exchange between the moderator and the user named Burk (it's not clear from the exchange but look at any of Burk's past political posts and you will see he is very pro-Trump).

Not looking to debate the topic of whether this board is pro/anti anything with you Joi. It's clear that considering you're still carrying on these conversations several days after you were asked to move them to the politics board, you are just ignoring the moderators requests. Honestly don't get it, but you do you man.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

Good job. Always assume someone is a man.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

You are correct and my apologies, I will work on that.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

Thank you. I’ll work on my sarcasm, lol.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Nah keep the sarcasm...it's an asset in life!

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

Especially around here!

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

**FALSE ACCUSATION[/b]**:

you're still carrying on these conversations several days after you were asked to move them to the politics board, you are just ignoring the moderators requests

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**[b]CORRECTION[/b]**:

In case you're not AWARE of it here's how this CONVERSATION we're having began:

[–] Frogarama (12618) a day ago

[b]My argument is to actually START enforcing the rules around here, notably the first rule, NO TROLLING.

That rule is clearly not enforced, and now look at what you have: Trolls blatantly complaining that all rules are fascism or censorship.[/b]

And I didn't begin it.

FROG did.

And The reason why you're not looking to DEBATE the TROLL issue is because YOU KNOW what's been said about them is RIGHT, and you'd rather FLING FALSE ACCUSATIONS at me instead of ADMITTING the TROLL is the MAIN ISSUE.

And I'm also simply responding back to other posters here, but for some reason once again you TRY to BLAME and PICK ON ME for doing the same thing that others have done who have also been responding back to this topic.

Which also demonstrates how YOUR MAIN OBJECTIVE is to try and PREVENT me from expressing the way I FEEL, while it's perfectly Ok for others to express the way they feel.

Which also makes you someone who keeps TROLLING and HARASSING me HERE.

So [b]why not do us both a favor and just use the IGNORE OPTION if you don't like what it is that I have to say, because I'm also tired of the way you keep PICKING on me and FLINGING FLASE ACCUSATIONS AT ME???

And from this point forwards please also consider yourself to be IGNORED by me, which also means there's no FURTHER POINT in giving me any more of your NON STOP LECTURES that you've also been posting here and over on other TOPICS.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

And from this point forwards please also consider yourself to be IGNORED by me

I'm devastated.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

You make some very good points, IMO.

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[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

Sats one of the worst offenders of the instructions to cease political banter on the Trump board...

Just sayin'.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

Violet, why not just post anything about trump, minus his entertainment roles, in Politics?

I don’t understand why some of us are unhappy with this new policy.

I find it refreshing quite frankly. It turns off many new visitors to see him constantly trending. I see this change as a positive move that will help bring and keep more traffic at this site to discuss even old and obscure movies.

Just my 2¢!

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

The POLITICS BOARD here is FLOODED and POLLUTED with THE SAME kind of SPAM that the imdb board had before it got SHUT DOWN.

That's the reason why the FISH POSTER posted a MESSAGE there WARNING others NOT to bother posting anything there.

Because the GOAL of what's probably these RUSSIAN TROLLS is to do the same thing again.

To PREVENT anyone else with an opposing point of view from being able to express it … either by SPAMMING the place to the point where your opinion is BURIED and can't be seen (which they also already did here) ... or else by REPORTING you for the same kind of VIOLATIONS that they make themselves.

We've also began discussing another place to post messages, so send me a PM if you're interested in going there where we won't be bothered by so many UNFAIR RULES.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

I’m confused about how posts get buried on Politics easier than on Trump.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

Ok. Look at it this way. We're at a message board where we're discussing DRACULA, when someone comes along and says we can't discuss him there anymore, and we need to go to a more GENERAL place to discuss him.

But we're not INTERESTED in discussing THE MUMMY or the WEREWOLF or any other MONSTERS in GENERAL because our interest isn't in MONSTERS in GENERAL, just in ONE MONSTER in PARTICULAR.

See what I mean???

And it's already bad enough here at this place where the TROLLS BURY our TOPICS by SPAMMING the place with THEIR TOPICS.

And it would be THAT MUCH WORSE at the other place where they'd BURY our TOPICS with even MORE TOPICS that we'd also have NO INTEREST whatsoever in.

That's also the REASON why this PEST has complained. Because they are MOST LIKELY also TIRED of TALKING to themselves (by way of all of the OTHER SOCK PUPPET Accounts they're using), so they WANT to BULLY US into going elsewhere in hopes of being able to get us to respond and engage in conversations with there.

Because BEFORE the MODERATOR chimed in this other PEST was IGNORED each time they posted something to any of my topics.

And it was ONLY after the MODERTOR posted the NEW RULES that one began to reply back to the PEST and to the FALSE ACCUSATIONS they kept making.

But now the MODERATOR has been MANIPULATED by THEM, and taken THEIR SIDE, which means they're also FORCING US to go to a place where we'd be BULLIED that much MORE by them there (due to the way the PEST post even more topics there than they do here).

That's also the reason why the FROG poster posted a WARNING for us there letting us know it wasn't a place we wanted to be:

All trolls and socks: This is your board. Normal users: AVOID
2 days ago

And now that POST has also been BURIED under an AVALANCHE of other SPAM that the PEST has posted there.

And I also saw how QUICKLY your topic there got BOOTED to the BACK.

What's also interesting is how INACTIVE the place was prior to 3 days ago. Because by page 4 or 5 it had also been 1 or 2 YEARS since any messages had been posted there,.

So under the circumstances it seems like we'd be better off finding another place we can go where we can continue to discuss whatever we want to the way we want to.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

Fun movie references!

I’ll be happy to migrate away from the heartless, gutless creeps who flood the politics discussions. I welcome opposing viewpoints but as you say, most of them are spamming trolls.

I think the owner and mgmt here are working hard to get this site to take off and reign back in the diaspora from IMDb. The fat orange scam man’s face is too much of a downer for a lot of people.

We’ll find a more appropriate board for the election, I’m sure.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

WELL PUT CX !!!

One also looks forward to discussing the SCAM MAN with you at the LINK you've been sent.

And we also don't have to see his UGLY MUG each time that we post a message there either!!! :)

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

Thank you!

Kind of hard to believe he considers that a good picture.

If you are the person on IMDb you get to upload your own pics.

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[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

But now the MODERATOR has been MANIPULATED by THEM, and taken THEIR SIDE, which means they're also FORCING US to go to a place where we'd be BULLIED that much MORE by them there (due to the way the PEST post even more topics there than they do here).

Oh how I wish this board had a tiny little violin icon to paste in...

Your craven delusional paranoia is exceeded only by your forum Breidbart Index (BI) .

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[–] tom8 (2860) 5 years ago

here you go 🎻

just use emojipedia.org

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[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

LOL!

Thank you!

👏

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[–] tom8 (2860) 5 years ago

But now the MODERATOR has been MANIPULATED by THEM, and taken THEIR SIDE, which means they're also FORCING US to go to a place where we'd be BULLIED that much MORE by them there

🤣 😆 relax.... it's only for 5 more years...... and then Ivanka takes over as the first female president 🤣 😆

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[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

WTF?

I had though maybe Don Jr. was up - oh well, maybe after she's had 2 terms...

🤷

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[–] tom8 (2860) 5 years ago

Yes, we need Trumps in the white house for the next 20 years. Otherwise, what would all the TDS people do? start to collect stamps? get a job? No way 🤣 😆

besides, moviechat need the revenue, their posts are keeping the site alive 🤣

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[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

I have a strong hunch that might just account for why so many of the dead end kids on the left haven't been sent packing yet.
🧳

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Dude if anyone is a spammer, it's you.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

Personally I feel like politics should be for actual politics. And all the personality stuff that he exhibits on a daily basis should be allowed on this board. It shouldn't matter that he exhibits them while being the president. But whatever. Its not my site. So I have no say in the matter.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

That makes sense.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

Yes UV puts it nicely. We're NOT interested in POLITICS in GENERAL. Our interest is in this person IN PARTICULAR. And there's NO REASON why we should be FORCED to discuss a PARTICULAR PERSON at another board which is for DISCUSSING other POLITICIANS and POLITICS in GENERAL.

Because the CURRENT POTUS also isn't and NEVER WAS a POLITICIAN.

He's MERELY someone who PLAYS the PART of one on TV now[/b].

And he's also doing a CRAPPY JOB of playing the kind of a ROLE that he has now.

And he also ADMITS that he sees the JOB that he has as being like being on a REALITY SHOW.

So that's also why IT MAKES NO SENSE whatsoever to discuss this REALITY TV POTUS ... who has NO previous POLITICAL EXPERIENCE whatsoever ... over at a POLITICS board.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

And there's NO REASON why we should be FORCED to discuss a PARTICULAR PERSON at another board which is for DISCUSSING other POLITICIANS and POLITICS in GENERAL.

You're not being "FORCED" to do anything. There are thousands of places you can go to discuss Donald Trump on the internet. If the set up that is being put in place here is really that unbearable for you, maybe you should check out alternatives websites/blogs/message boards.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

When someone tells you your TOPIC isn't allowed and belongs over at another place that you have NO INTEREST in going, imo, that's definitely FORCING you to go someplace else that you don't want to be.

And Before you posted your suggestion, I'd already sent others a link to another place we can go to discuss what we want the way we want to.

But so far no one else seems to have shown up there.

So thanks for the suggestion, but one has also already been several steps ahead of you in that regard.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

When someone tells you your TOPIC isn't allowed and belongs over at another place that you have NO INTEREST in going, imo, that's definitely FORCING you to go someplace else that you don't want to be.

You come to my house and say you have to pee. I tell you to use the bathroom but you'd rather go in my living room. I say you can't pee in my living room, and that you can either go use my bathroom, hold it in or leave. In this scenario I'm not FORCING you to use my bathroom but I'm sure gonna forbid you from going in my living room....and I can do that since it's my house. Consider this someone else's house and they're telling you to pee in the politics board or not at all.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

Your ANALOGY has no RELATION to the SITUATION at all.

Perhaps you haven't see this one which is a much better one in RELATION to what's happened here:

QUOTE:

We're at a message board where we're discussing DRACULA, when someone comes along and says we can't discuss him there anymore, and we need to go to a more GENERAL place to discuss him.

But we're not INTERESTED in discussing THE MUMMY or the WEREWOLF or any other MONSTERS in GENERAL because our interest isn't in MONSTERS in GENERAL, just in ONE MONSTER in PARTICULAR.

See what I mean???

And it's already bad enough here at this place where the TROLLS BURY our TOPICS by SPAMMING the place with THEIR TOPICS.

And it would be THAT MUCH WORSE at the other place where they'd BURY our TOPICS with even MORE TOPICS that we'd also have NO INTEREST whatsoever in.

That's also the REASON why this PEST has complained. Because they are MOST LIKELY also TIRED of TALKING to themselves (by way of all of the OTHER SOCK PUPPET Accounts they're using), so they WANT to BULLY US into going elsewhere in hopes of being able to get us to respond and engage in conversations with them there.

Because BEFORE the MODERATOR chimed in this other PEST was IGNORED each time they posted something to any of my topics.

And it was ONLY after the MODERTOR posted the NEW RULES that one began to reply back to the PEST and to the FALSE ACCUSATIONS they kept making.

END QUOTE

TYPING WORDS or ONE'S OPINION into a MESSAGE has NOTHING whatsoever to do with a BODILY FUNCTION.

And NO ONE is TYPING their MESSAGE into the SPACE where you type your message either.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

My analogy made perfect sense since this is someone else's site and they can set the rules as they like. I've nothing further to add.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

If it's the HOUSE of someone else …

then your claim that one pee's in YOUR living room MAKES EVEN LESS SENSE than it did before.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

Honestly its all Qberto. He's an extreme agitator. Even on this thread about the Trump Board rules here he is inciting an argument trying to claim it belongs on the politics board.

A whopping 700 posts in a mere 10 days. Yet not once has he tried to engage in an actual conversation. He is the reason for all of this.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

QUOTE:

Honestly its all Qberto. He's an extreme agitator. Even on this thread about the Trump Board rules here he is inciting an argument trying to claim it belongs on the politics board.

A whopping 700 posts in a mere 10 days. Yet not once has he tried to engage in an actual conversation. He is the reason for all of this.

END QUOTE

YES, this is precisely what one has been trying to explain to the MODERATOR who keeps saying we are ALL EQUALLY GUILTY of doing the SAME THINGS the Q POSTER keeps doing.

But they were also IGNORED and were NEVER addressed by me until the MODERATOR chimed in and they began FLINGING FALSE ACCUSATIONS at me about how I was BREAKING RULES that they've BROKEN here ALL ALONG.

And since I've also only been here for a few weeks now, one also has no IDEA what the place was like before that, which the MOD also says was just as bad before one arrived here.

Anyhow, you are also welcome to join our other discussion at the other place you've been sent a link to where we can also discuss the SCAM MAN the way we like without all of these other TROLLS constantly bugging us there.

Which also makes it A WIN WIN SITUATION for US, and a NO WIN SITUATION for the ATTENTION SEEKING TROLL who will be left here ALL ALONE to TALK to themselves.

:)

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

If we all put Qberto on ignore then the problem goes away and the Mods can go back to their normal routine. But its kinda hard to get everyone on board. Especially those who like to see him agitate.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

One doesn't even need to put him on IGNORE. All one needs to do is JUST IGNORE him each time he POSTS INSULTS to you on your TOPIC like one was doing before the MODERATOR showed up here this week.

But like you say, others here also get a KICK OUT of exchanging INSULTS with him, which also results in his MANIPULATING THEM, and turning their TOPICS into TOPICS that start out interesting, but end up being another FIST FIGHT with him that no one is interested in READING anymore.

In other words, he's also a BIG BORE, which is why one is GLAD to have another place to go where one can discuss things the way one LIKES without his CONSTANTLY posting RUDE REMARKS and other INSULTS.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

Yes if you can withhold the urge to reply to an agitator then it renders that agitator useless. But generally speaking that doesn't work so well in practice. The ignore feature makes it more feasible.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

YES, this is precisely what one has been trying to explain to the MODERATOR who keeps saying we are ALL EQUALLY GUILTY of doing the SAME THINGS the Q POSTER keeps doing.

The moderator didn't say this. What he did say is: "The problem lies with members on both sides." Which was in response to Qberto trying to blame all bad behavior on Trump haters. That is far different than saying everyone is equally guilty. Honestly your hysterics over this issue is really bizarre.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

The REASON the PROBLEM LIES on BOTH SIDES is because the Q POSTER is an AGITATOR just like UV said.

He's not HERE to DISCUSS anything.

His MAIN REASON for being here is to START FLAME WARS with us by INSULTING US.

And that's also been made EVIDENT for the MODERATOR by the way he BRAGS about how much he LIKES WINNING.

Which is also a CONFESSION that he's been trying to MANIPULATE the MODERATOR into helping him WIN and GET his WAY.

If you don't see it that way, SO BE IT.

And NO ONE is being HYSTERICAL which is also another FALSE CLAIM and INSULT on YOUR PART.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

And NO ONE is being HYSTERICAL which is also another FALSE CLAIM and INSULT on YOUR PART.

Sorry, just my opinion but your posts do come off as hysterical. Maybe it's all the random cap lock words and bold print. I feel like I'm reading a ransom note that's been cobbled together from cut out newspaper clippings.

Also the moderator doesn't need to be manipulated. The decision was made that political discussions would go on the politics board. This was a result of a lot of people complaining of the Trump board always trending. I honestly don't get why this is such a tragedy for you. The Trump board itself had largely become a catch all of political topics anyway.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

The use of CAPS is due to EYE ISSUES (reading small print hurts one eyes).

And CAPS also work like an OUTLINE, so that you can SKIM a message for it's BASIC CONTENTS when you go back looking for something that you've previously said that you want to QUOTE.

In other words, it's also sort of like using a TABLE of CONTENTS to find one's way back to where one wants to go.

Would removing this place from TRENDING solve the TRENDING problem???

Please also let me assure you there's been NO TRAGEDY. Because one was also already posting messages someplace else before coming here, so in that respect NOTHING has really changed.

If anything it's been a PLEASURE and a JOY to have met some NEW PEOPLE here that one's also enjoyed having discussions with.

And since they're also welcome to continue having those discussions elsewhere, that also means the PROBLEM here has been SOLVED in that way.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

The best idea I've heard is for users to have the option to ignore an entire board. So that his face doesn't show up in their trending page. Great idea I think.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

YES that is a WONDERFUL IDEA UV.

Charlotte also mentioned something about this, but I didn't understand what she was saying.

It also reminds one of the WAY other PEOPLE keep removing his NAME from BUILDINGS where they also say having HIS NAME on them has RUINED their ability to do BUSINESS.

How IRONIC it is that we've also ENCOUNTERED the same kind of a SITUATION here once again!!!

Another person also wrote a BOOK about him with a TITLE that says:

EVERYTHING he TOUCHES DIES.

Business at buildings with his FAKE NAME on them DIE.

This BOARD DIES.

Hopefully the COUNTRY being run by him won't also DIE as a result of his being IN CONTROL of it now.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

The REASON the PROBLEM LIES on BOTH SIDES is because the Q POSTER is an AGITATOR just like UV said.

No, the flaming, insulting and bickering has been going on here on both sides for a long time.

Members post things that are inflammatory to one side and members who are on the other side respond poorly to it.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

When Qberto replies to you, you feel compelled to reply back. And then it continues until you give up. But he never does. So on the surface it looks like both sides. But in reality its just him.

If we all put him on ignore then the problem goes away. 100%. No doubt in my mind.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I have no doubt what Qberto is doing. I don't have him on ignore but I largely ignore him.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

It started with him focusing people with strong criticisms of Trump. Those that backed up their criticisms kinda pushed him over the deep end to where he's just replying to every comment they make trying to instigate further.

Even when I was most active in commenting back and forth with him, I was still only replying to half of his comments to me.

He has 700 posts in 10 days. Before he arrived that was more than the activity of the entire board combined. I doubt the board has ever seen this kind of activity before. 10 days later and lo and behold... here's the Mod. Coincidence? I think not.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I'm no discounting his or anyone else's role in the decision but this has been building for a long time. For months if not longer people here and in the general discussion board have complained about the Trump board always trending. The decision wasn't mine but it's one I like. This is a movie site and I personally am happy to see the trending boards be limited to movies/tv/actors. I'm a firm believer that if you are a guest in someone else's place, you abide by their rules. If the new rules don't work for someone, they should find a place with rules that do. Joi has said that he's found such a place so I'm not sure what the issue really is anymore.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

Right. It was problematic for some but it was relatively manageable with only the rare comment about the trending page. But then it got put on steroids the last 10 days.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

This has nothing to do with Qberto or any one member. This has been an ongoing problem for a long time. The comments about Trending have been common.

It's been suggested members who want to talk politics take it to the Politics board. Their response was there wasn't enough activity there. We responded a few weeks ago by having the board moved to a more visible position on the home page. But that didn't work because members still insisted on posting here and on a few other boards.

This article in Wired where MovieChat's owner, Jim Smith, and two mods were interviewed was published May 26th. In it Jim explains the problem with this board.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/moderators-movie-chat-imdb

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

If anyone doesn't want to read the whole thing, here's the part about this board.

Smith says the most difficult boards to manage are ones that inspire political and religious discussions. For the foreseeable future, moderators are having particular trouble with Donald Trump’s board, which has a place on the site because of the president’s numerous reality TV roles and movie cameos. There are currently 239 pages of posts. One of the most recent, at the time of writing, is entitled, “15 Things that send Libs/Dems into hysterical convulsions”. Number 14 is “Biblical Christianity”, number 8 is “Hard Work”, and number 2 is “The American Flag”.

“It’s very difficult to moderate,” says Smith. “We want to allow open dialogue and free speech, but it’s very common for people to resort to abuse, hatred and violence when discussing hot-button issues like these. If we take enforcement action against a clear violation of our standards against one party, they accuse us of being biased.”

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

I would argue a problem for Moviechat is the disdain for Trump drives people to the site more than Moviechat does itself.

Another problem is the trending page. IMDB didn't have a trending page issue when discussion boards got out of control.

So Moviechat kinda wants its cake and eat it too. They want a trending page to show their users which boards are most popular but they don't want boards to get too popular based on sensationalism that doesn't pertain to movies. Yet for the time being sensationalism seems to be a huge driver for people to want to comment on the site.

Its quite the conundrum for the time being. But the solution seems to be down the road. When Moviechat is popular enough to start attracting people who want to talk about movies the way IMDB did. IMDB has not been dethroned by this site. Not anywhere close. This board is less active than Obama's board was on IMDB. Obama's board was less active than WWE's, etc. Moviechat isn't there yet. Though i would agree Moviechat has dethroned all others to be the next IMDB. The Trump board is kinda sorta hinting at what it could be when people really start realizing this place exists because the Trump board is the one board on this site that somewhat resembles its IMDB counterpart if IMDB discussion boards were still around.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

Why would people come to a site called MovieChat to express their disdain for Trump? Anyone who feels that way would sensibly look for a site about politics. The many members complaining about the political topics disprove what you're saying, as do the many boards about film and TV where members are discussing them.

The Trending feature isn't the problem. If members used this board as it was intended, not just here but originally on IMDb, there would be no problem.

You are correct and the title of that article is not. MovieChat did not dethrone IMDb. MovieChat was created because IMDb got rid of their forums.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

Why would people come to a site called MovieChat to express their disdain for Trump? Anyone who feels that way would sensibly look for a site about politics.

People express their opinions of the SCAM MAN who ran the FAKE UNIVERSITY and the FAKE CHARITY here instead of at a POLITICS board because he IS NOT now and NEVER WAS a POLITICIAN.

He's always been what HOLLYWOOD calls an ATTENTION WHORE who LOVES being in and STEALING the LIME LIGHT away from others which you also saw demonstrated by the way he BULLIED all of the others who ran against him in the GOP PRIMARY race.

And the reason why he did it is because before that he was a TV REALITY STAR who hosted a TV SHOW where he also BULLIED others on that show.

And before that he was also so desperate for ATTENTION that he use to call NEWSPAPERS PRETENDING to be someone else and begging them to PRINT stories about him and what a WOMANIZER he was.

And he was also breaking into the DRESSING ROOMS of TEENAGERS who were in BEAUTY PAGENTS he ran so he could see them UNDRESSED.

And the LIST of things he's done goes on and on and on.

This is why discussing him at a POLITICS board MAKES NO SENSE.

Because he's NOT a POLITICIAN.

He's a REPREHENSIBLE HUMAN BEING.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

I'm well aware of what you think about Trump. Regardless of what your opinion of him is he is the POTUS and is a politician by definition.

What I'm saying is if someone's interested in discussing chairs, they search for a forum about chairs, not one about real estate.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

"Why would people come to a site called MovieChat to express their disdain for Trump?"

Off the top of my head I would argue two reasons.

Reason #1. Trump is so divisive he has a way of driving people to look for all sorts of outlets to talk about him. And these posts are indexed by Google.

Reason #2. IMDB's Hillary board circa 2007 whose commenters moved over to the Obama board until February 2017. People were there for years and are looking to get back what they lost. Since Moviechat is the closest thing to that they wind up here.

Just my guess anyway. I'm sure there are additional reasons.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

I ended up here to talk about movies but when it first started no one answered my posts and trump was always trending so....

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[–] Keelai (31751) 5 years ago

It depends which movies since some are more popular than others. New releases temporarily trend higher, too.

Trump trends because he's excellent at self-promotion. He'll purposely say or do something controversial which the media reports. His controversy is usually meant to keep his base angry or fearful, deflect or just bring himself attention since he's narcissistic.

Angry or upset people end up here to vent because of it.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

and trump was always trending so....

This is the point. MovieChat isn't yet anywhere near as big as IMDb. IMDb had been around for over a decade. Its forums took time for momentum to build so its forums became as active as they were.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

Yes. I see this place getting busier though, which is great.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

The OTHER BIG PROBLEM here is the way MOST NEW FILMS are also a NON STOP PARADE of COMIC BOOK SUPERHERO movies that one has NO INTEREST in watching if they are in a certain age group.

Although an effort was also made to try and DISCUSS BLADE RUNNER 2049, which failed.

And an effort was made to try and discuss BIG LITTLE LIES, which looked like it might be working, but has also FAILED.

So what does one do when NO ONE is willing to discuss other FILMS or shows with you that are of interest to you???

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

As I said to joi2049 if you're interested in discussing chairs, you search for a forum about chairs, not one about real estate.

Reason #1. Trump is so divisive he has a way of driving people to look for all sorts of outlets to talk about him.

That is what we're trying to prevent. Politics is a divisive topic on its own. It's become worse. With that comes flaming, bickering, and trolling.

This is not IMDb. Jim made the decision to have the site moderated by real humans, not the automation IMDb had which allowed trolls to proliferate.

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[–] Keelai (31751) 5 years ago

Anonymity is a two-edged sword. People feel free to self-express, but some of that will be trolling which is all over the internet.

Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I also attributed the worst trolling to the cyberwar with foreign countries that's meant to divide.

Anyway, I really appreciate Jim for creating this website after IMDB ended their forums. It's literally my favorite place on the web since I'm a huge movie/TV fan.

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

The PROBLEM doesn't GO AWAY, because the MODERATOR also says it was NEVER INTENDED for us to DISCUSS the SCAM MAN here the way we've been doing.

That means we either have to STOP having the KINDS of discussions we want to have here, or else go someplace else where we can continue to keep discussing things the way we like.

Because the other OPTION offered to us to post to the other BOARD is also NOT going to STOP the NON STOP creation of SOCK PUPPET ACCOUNTS that are also being USED to KEEP SHOVING our topics to the BACK PAGES where they cannot be seen anymore.

So NO, THE IGNORE OPTION doesn't make the PROBLEM GO AWAY. Because the TROLLS keep creating NEW ACCOUNTS that one also has to IGNORE. And then when you IGNORE them, they create still more and more and more of them the way they've done here.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

Its their rules so I'm fine with it. They have the right to make any rules they wish since Moviechat is privately owned. Not much I can say about that. But I indeed will point my finger at the real problem if I see it. And I think I've mentioned his name too many times already today. So I'm just gonna end it here :)

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[–] joi2049 (5488) 5 years ago

You've done an EXCELLENT JOB of explaining the SITUATION and how the TROLL with the Q NAME has posted over 700 messages here in just 10 days (which is also 71 messages per day).

Unfortunately the MODERATOR still doesn't see why or how that's been a problem, because it's also one of the MAIN REASONS why this board kept appearing so much on whatever the TRENDING place is suppose to be.

And since what one mostly does is reply back to the messages in one's LITTLE BELL ICON, that also makes it difficult to comprehend what the FUSS is all about. But like you say, the Q POSTER is also the person who is MOST RESPONSIBLE for whatever the TRENDING problem is.

Because 700 messages in just 10 days time is also doing the MOST TRENDING if TRENDING also means that happens each time someone posts a message here to this board.

Which also means you're right about how one should IGNORE them (which one did before the MODERATOR arrived). Because each time one replies back to them again that would be 700 more times the TRENDING thingie went off or do whatever it is that it does.

Which also means the BEST SOLOUTION would probably be to just GET RID of the TROLL who keeps causing the problem here.

But that wouldn't help either due to the way they also have several other SOCK PUPPET ACCOUNTS they also use. And they'd probably also create still another ACCOUNT once they got BOOTED. At least that's what kept happening at the imdb board that got invaded by RUSSIAN TROLLS during the last ELECTION for POTUS.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

"And since what one mostly does is reply back to the messages in one's LITTLE BELL ICON"

Thats how I see it too. You reply to people who reply to you. Because of his 700 posts in 10 days its obvious he's been replying to a lot more than everyone else. He would create a lot of threads as well. But those don't show up in people's notifications which is why they get nearly zero replies. So the only way he gets his jollies is by going to other threads to harass them to get them to reply. Then the ackbar socks bump Q's zero-reply threads to make those active and to push the more relevant threads to page 2.

I am ok with trolling as long as its restricted to someone's attitude. When they take their trolling to the next level to disrupt the flow of the board then I have a problem. And obviously the website is going to have a problem as well.

Maybe it is a coincidence that a moderator arrived just days after the worst disrupting this board has seen. I'm not a conspiracy theorist so I can accept it. But I also know for a fact that simply not replying to Qberto makes the problem disappear. I just wish I did it earlier.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

Q is Thrillhouse, no?

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

No.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

I am about to lose my patience and that doesn't happen often.

THE PROBLEM OF TRUMP CONSTANTLY APPEARING ON TRENDING HAS EXISTED FOR WELL OVER A YEAR. QBERTO HAS ONLY BEEN HERE 10 DAYS AND IS NOT MOST RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PROBLEM.

We have means to tell who is and is not a sock puppet. Anyone using a sock who has been banned gets banned again, and again if necessary.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

Try not to sweat it man. I will do what I can to steer all political discourse away from this board. The rules are the rules.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

Thank you.

I don't understand why some are resistant to discussing politics on a politics board, on a site called MovieChat, either. The same discussions can take place there.

You are exactly right. Seeing political figures constantly on the home page is a turn-off to the majority who come here to discuss movies and TV shows.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

I hope the site gets more write ups, like Hollywood Reporter and Variety. 😄

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

That would be great 😊

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

IMO, to visit the Politics board is to visit Demented Land. At least here we could dip our toes in the water when we wanted and skip lightly away otherwise. I wouldn't mind seeing him go away to the Politics board, and I don't think I will follow much. I might, tho. The Sheer Lunacy is breath taking.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

Any board's content is a result of the content of the members who post on it. You can do the same thing on the Politics board you did on this one.

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[–] Keelai (31751) 5 years ago

Is there a way to create subcategories for the more popular politicians in order to quickly find them? It'll be easier for those who want to discuss only Trump or other specific politicians on the Politics board.

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[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

Outstanding suggestion !

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[–] Keelai (31751) 5 years ago

Thanks.

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[–] Moderator3 (1124) 5 years ago

That is a good suggestion, but we don't have any way to create subcategories.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

Qberto is the problem. Finally had to put him on ignore.

His goal is to agitate and get people he doesn't like to stop posting on this board. Even on this thread which has every right to exist on this board... here's Qberto using your recent ruling to suggest this belongs on the politics board.

700 posts in 10 days. One agitation after another. Thats the real reason for the recent uptick in complaints and why a Moderator had to get involved.

But I'm done with the guy and he is ignored. Unfortunately over half the board gets ignored along with him because he's intertwined with every feed of every thread. But hopefully my lack of interactions with him will reduce his activity on here.

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[–] HarlemEagle42 (16110) 5 years ago

"...But the idea that all negative comments about Trump and his personality shouldn't be allowed because he's president..."

Is that true? If so, that's ridiculous. Just my thoughts.

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[–] AndyKing1967 (33650) 5 years ago

Read the reply from Mod3.

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[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

No. That’s not the reason.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

The Moderator clarified that its okay to post negative comments about Trump and his personality BUT they cannot be based on anything Trump has done or said while he is president even if what he says doesn't pertain to politics.

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[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

The Moderator clarified that its okay to post negative comments about Trump and his personality BUT they cannot be based on anything Trump has done or said while he is president even if what he says doesn't pertain to politics.

He did???

Where?

Not on this page unless I'm missing some posts of his.

Have a citation to share?

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

On this page:

"It's about what he's said as president, and it's a political issue. It needs to go on the Politics board."

"Everything he says or does is now politicized. Even eating hamburgers."

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[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

You grossly misrepresented his statements, in fact you simply twisted them to your own ends - sad display dear, quite sad.

Have a burger.

🍔

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

How so? I'm willing to discuss it. Though I suspect you're just here to argue.

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[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

How so?

Read your own fallacious revision:

"The Moderator clarified that its okay to post negative comments about Trump and his personality BUT they cannot be based on anything Trump has done or said while he is president even if what he says doesn't pertain to politics."

And if you want to continue this, do it on the politics board as he has instructed you to.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

As I suspected. You don't actually disagree with what I wrote. You are just looking for an angle to get me to argue with you on another board. But this conversation we are having right now is about the rules of the Trump board. It belongs here. Period.

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[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

As I suspected. You don't actually disagree with what I wrote

I don't?

Yet I just called you out for misrepresenting him so nakedly that any person not residing in the Bizarro Universe can see, that I SURELY DO disagree with "what you wrote".

You're flakey and detached from all reality.

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

A call out isn't just "you're wrong. goodbye." A call out requires an explanation. I asked for an explanation. Your explanation was for me to reread my own post. ???

Qberto. I get it. We all get it. You are nothing but an agitator. That is your only purpose for being here.

700 posts in 10 days. One agitation after another.

Goodbye. I'm done with your trolling.

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[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

A call out isn't just "you're wrong. goodbye."

You're nutso dear.

🤪

You completely misrepresented the moderator's instructions - I mean 100% misrepresented them.

Ta.

😘

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[–] slimone (7996) 5 years ago

You nailed it exactly!

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

Thank you slimone

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[–] Gd5150 (10976) 5 years ago

Page gets bigger, lemmings get triggered.

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[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

the problem with the board is triggered liberals like you flooding it with fake news and insanity

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[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

Just an FYI. Anything pertaining to conservatives vs liberals should be taken to the politics board. There's no need to take a non-political thread and inject politics into it when it goes against the rules of the board.

What you deem as "fake news" and "insanity" has already shifted over to the politics board. This thread is about why Trump will always appear on the trending page. It has more to do with his divisive nature than it does with actual US politics.

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[–] Qberto (1139) 5 years ago

Just an FYI. Anything pertaining to conservatives vs liberals should be taken to the politics board.

Then why don't YOU?

Did some make you mod and give you the power to change the rules?

Buzz off with your sanctimony.

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