Bernie LIVE NOW
Hear him expose Trump
https://act.berniesanders.com/go/speech
He will surpass Biden in the polls. Warren probably will too.
shareThanks for the link CX.
My PREDICTION is LIZ WARREN will be the one to COME OUT ON TOP after the PRIMARY ELECTION is held.
Warren takes campaign contributions from Morgan Stanley and AT&T amongst others I find questionable.
shareAnd my pleasure for the link!
shareI'd believe Warren before Sanders.
shareNot sure why anyone wouldn't believe Bernie. He's stood firm on his same politics for 40 years.
shareWhy they wouldn’t believe Bernie is because the corporate media is scared shitless of him and spreading lies from all sides - right and faux left.
shareJust today on his show Mark Levin who preaches to the stupidest people on Earth apparently, was saying how Bernie just wants to EXPAND THE GOVERNMENT. Yes, that’s right; he does want to EXPAND THE GOVERNMENT so you can GO TO THE DOCTOR, so your kids can GO TO COLLEGE, so you can bank on a LIVING WAGE AND GET THE SOCIAL SECURITY TO RETIRE... AND A WHOLE LOT MORE FROM EXPANDING THE GOVERNMENT AND TAXING THE RICH
shareWhat plans does BERNIE have for TAXING the RICH???
LIZ WARREN is constantly telling us the PLANS that she has for doing so. She plans to levy 2% TAX on their WEALTH once they've made $50 MILLION or something like that.
Income bracket ........... Tax
....... $0 – $18,450 ... 10%
$18,451 – $74,900 ... 15%
$74,901 – $151,200 ... 25%
$151,201 – $230,450 ... 28%
$230,451 – $250,000 ... 33%
$250,001 – $500,000 ... 37%
$500,001 – $2,000,000 ... 43%
$2,000,001 – $10,000,000 48%
$10,000,001+ ................ 52%
Keep in mind I like Elizabeth Warren too. Most of the attacks against her from the left are out of stubbornness because she didn't support Bernie over Hillary publicly even though she did privately.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/elizabeth-warren-s-plan-tax-super-rich-has-been-tried-n963971
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Under Warren's proposal, households with over $50 million in assets would pay a 2 percent tax on their net worth every year. The rate would rise to 3 percent on assets over $1 billion. Warren's plan would affect just 75,000 households total.
The article also talks about how other countries have also already tried to levy WEALTH TAXES on the WEALTHY, but when they do so the RICH just find a SLEAZY way to HIDE their MONEY and avoid the tax.
for every 0.1 percent taxes on wealth went up in an area, the wealth taxpayers reported to the government dropped by 3.5 percent.
"When you tax people's wealth, they manage to somehow reduce their taxable wealth,"
In France, President Emmanuel Macron replaced the country's decades-old wealth tax with a narrower tax on real estate partly in response to data suggesting 60,000 millionaires had left the country since 2000.
Warren's plan would apply to Americans based on citizenship, not where they live or where their money is earned, so the ultra-rich couldn’t easily move to avoid it. If they renounced their citizenship, they’d have to pay a one-time 40 percent "exit tax" on their net worth
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Sanders' bill would only apply to the wealthiest 0.2 percent of Americans. It would establish a 45 percent tax on the value of an estate between $3.5 million and $10 million; a 50 percent tax on the value of an estate between $10 million and $50 million; a 55 percent tax on the value of an estate in excess of $50 million; and a 77 percent tax on the value of an estate above $1 billion – a return to the top rate from 1941 through 1976.
The legislation would also close tax loopholes that have allowed billionaire families to pass fortunes from one generation to the next without paying their fair share of taxes.
While the Walton family, the wealthiest family in America, would get up to a $63 billion tax break from the Republican proposal, they would owe an estate tax of up to $130 billion under Sanders' reform.
The Kochs, a family worth over $97 billion, would owe an estate tax of up to $74 billion.
And the family of Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, who has a net worth of more than $130 billion, would pay an estate tax of up to $100 billion.
Overall I think the conversation that only one has a plan and the other doesn't is kinda silly. Both candidates appear to be on their game. share
Bernie's PLAN just looks like a PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX chart which is also something we already HAVE and HAVE HAD for quite some time.
In fact back in the 50's the INCOME TAX on the RICH was also 90 PERCENT of their INCOME.
So the 50 PERCENT that Bernie has listed doesn't IMPRESS one much for that reason.
And we also already KNOW that AMAZON and most of the rest of the other COMPANIES paid NO INCOME TAX at all due to the way they HIRE TAX ATTONEY'S WHO FIND LOOP HOLES to keep them from paying their FAIR SHARE of TAXES.
And the RICH also do the SAME THING, which means under Bernie's proposal they'll still NOT PAY that 50 PERCENT.
PLUS BERNIE is also a RICH MAN now as well ... which the release of his INCOME TAXES also show us.
Meh. The income tax plan of the 1950's would greatly surpass Warren's plan as well.
Bernie got rich because his ideas became so popular that people started buying his book.
If you want to know which politicians will work for the people and which ones won't all you have to do is see where they get their campaign funds from.
The establishment is going hard after Bernie for all the wrong reasons. They say he's too old. They say he's rich. They say he's a socialist. They say he's too hard on the rich. He's attacked from the right and the middle. And frankly whenever someone is attacked from those two places that means that candidate is doing everything right.
Who FUNDS them doesn't interest me as much as the IDEAS themselves that they put forth about how to deal with and IMPROVE our ECONOMY.
And since LIZ is also the one who is MORE of an EXPERT in regards to FINANCIAL matters (because she was also APPOINTED to deal with the CLEAN UP after the BIG MELTDOWN back in 2008), that's also the reason why she would get MY VOTE.
And since LIZ is also THE SAME AGE as BERNIE, that also has NOTHING to do with the matter.
And his being a SOCIALIST also doesn't bother me, due to the way we are also already a SOCIALIST COUNTRY who relies upon our SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREMENT CHECKS each month as a way to SURVIVE.
And there are also MANY of US who get SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS each month who are NOT RETIRED YET. Because CHILDREN also get them when one of their PARENTS dies, and continues to get them each month until they become ADULTS. And there are also others who are DISABLED who get them as well.
So the MAIN ISSUE is how ONE SIMPLY LIKES the PLANS that LIZ puts forth BETTER than the PLAN BERNIE's put forth.
"Who FUNDS them doesn't interest me as much as the IDEAS themselves that they put forth about how to deal with and IMPROVE our ECONOMY."
And thats how we get swindled. Over and over again.
There are basically 2 CHOICES:
EITHER RELY UPON OTHERS to FUND you in the TRADITIONAL WAY
OR
RELY UPON OTHERS to FUND you in the NEWER WAY:
which is by ASKING for SMALL DONATIONS or HANDOUTS from others who VOTE for you ...
which BETO is doing ...
which is also NOT WORKING OUT for him very well for him ...
or the same way as it did for OBAMA back when he tried doing it that way.
So when one looks at the situation that way, LIZ is also doing what's in her best interest as a way to GET ELECTED.
Because part of the DNC RULES also state that one CANNOT CONTINUE to keep running for office if one doesn't get ENOUGH MONEY DONATED to you.
So why not also BLAME the DNC for making that kind of a RULE in the FIRST PLACE???
Its not working for Beto because voters can see he's an establishment tool just based on his public appearances.
shareNot having paid close enough attention to BETO, one doesn't really know enough to know if that's a fair assessment of him or not.
And Since LIZ is the one who stands out and SHINES the BRIGHTEST for me in regards to who I'd vote for, there's also no reason to care one way or the other about Beto or BERNIE.
Thats fine if you support Liz. She's been on board with the American people for her entire life just like Bernie. Her work alone with the Consumer Protection Agency ten years ago is what first drew my attention to her. Frankly she's qualified just for that.
I just don't like this idea that one is bad because the other is good. They both have a lifetime of believing what they believe. Its so destructive to attack people who are 100% on your side just because they don't "feel" the same as another candidate.
Did I say anything to indicate Bernie is BAD and someone else is GOOD???
If so, please show where that took place and one will be happy to offer an apology for having done so.
What's one recalls is pointing out how one SIMPLY PREFERS LIZ because one feels her IDEAS for how to handle the ECONOMY were BETTER than the one's that BERNIE has
(which are basically also the SAME PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX system that we already have now …
whereas The idea LIZ has to LEVY the 2% TAX on INCOMES OVER $50 MILLION and 3% on INCOMES over ONE BILLION are NEW IDEAS).
Well if Bernie's plan is good and if you believe he will stand by it then there's no reason to condemn him for being rich from his book deals.
shareSorry for the comment about his being rich from the BOOK DEAL.
But it was also made in response to the other claim that was made about how LIZ was wrong to take DONATIONS from CORPORATIONS who have made contributions to her campaign (which also isn't WRONG or ILLEGAL).
What’s wrong with Bernie having wealth? He’s not anti rich. Also, what makes you think the sleazy rich people won’t also find loopholes with Warren’s plan? What makes it fool proof? Also, you don’t mention Bernie’s Wall Street speculation tax.
shareIf you check out the article in the LINK that was previously posted to this topic, you'll see how it also talks about how 60,000 RICH people left FRANCE, which is why the LEADER there reversed the tax laws that applied to them.
And you also see how once higher tax rates are created the RICH will also tend to HIDE what they've made and claim LESS INCOME than they previously had made.
So you're right about how they tend to find and use LOOPHOLES as a way to keep from paying the HIGHER TAX RATES.
What is Bernie's Wall Street speculation tax?
The speculation tax is to pay for higher education that one would need to have the proper grades for.
https://www.npr.org/2016/02/12/466465333/sanders-favors-a-speculation-tax-on-big-wall-street-firms-what-is-that
The article in the link also mentioned loop holes. That’s what greedy business people are trained to look for. The best ones get into Harvard and such to learn from the best greedy business people how to use loopholes and squeeze and squeeze as much out of the masses as possible.
Harvard and others like them donate to Warren. Why?
Didn't Warren also attend HARVARD and/or TEACH THERE???
Perhaps that's the reason why if she's also one of their ALUMNI???
A check of her ACADEMIC HISTORY didn't turn up anything related to HARVARD, but there's this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren#Academic
QUOTE:
On February 8, 2019, Warren officially announced her candidacy at a rally in Lawrence, Massachusetts, at the site of the 1912 Bread and Roses Strike.[126]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1912_Lawrence_textile_strike
She staged her first campaign event in Lawrence, a former industrial mill town famous for that strike, to demonstrate the constituency groups she hopes to appeal to, including working class families, union members, women, and new immigrants. Warren is calling for major governmental changes.
It won't be enough to just undo the terrible acts of this administration. We can't afford to just tinker around the edges – a tax credit here, a regulation there. Our fight is for big, structural change. This is the fight of our lives. The fight to build an America where dreams are possible, an America that works for everyone.[5]
A longtime critic of President Trump, at her opening rally Warren called him a "symptom of a larger problem [that has resulted in] a rigged system that props up the rich and powerful and kicks dirt on everyone else".[127]
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Maybe HARVARD was impressed with the way she began her campaign there in the STATE where they're located???
Joi, I misunderstood something I read about her donations. 🙄
shareAfter what they said tonight on MSNBC I thought so.
Because they said she doesn't take donations from corporations and gets them the same way as BERNIE and BETO do.
Wonder what will happen at the FIRST DEBATES a few more days from now???
I think Biden and LIZ aren't going to DEBATE on the SAME NIGHT.
Not sure about Bernie or which night he'll be debating.
I think maybe he'll be with Biden???
Yes. Bernie is on the same night as Biden.
First, the news. The Democratic debates will be spread out over two nights. The first night, Wednesday, June 26, will start at 9 pm ET and the candidates on stage will be: Sen. Cory Booker, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke, Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Rep. John Delaney, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, former US Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro, Rep. Tim Ryan, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, and Washington Gov. Jay Inslee.
The lineup for the following night, June 27, also starting at 9 pm ET, will be: Sen. Bernie Sanders, Sen. Kamala Harris, former Vice President Joe Biden, South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Sen. Michael Bennet, author Marianne Williamson, Rep. Eric Swalwell, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, entrepreneur Andrew Yang, and former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper.
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2019/6/14/18679209/democratic-dnc-debate-lineup-2020-presidential-election
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Thanks for the link!!!
I'd rather see them have the TOP 10, or those with the HIGHEST PERCENTAGE POINTS DEBATE each other, and have those with the LOWEST percentages debate each other.
Didn't the RNC also do it that way???
In other words, that way we'd also have LIZ on stage with BIDEN and BERNIE.
But since it also seems like BINDEN has been DODGING a CONFRONTATION with the rest of them, this also makes it look like he's doing the same thing again.
Biden claimed the reason why he wasn't in IOWA, for example, was because his grandchild graduated from high school, but a graduation ceremony only last for a hour or two at most.
And NO HIGH SCHOOL GRAD is going to want to spend time celebrating with GRANDPA. They're going to want to attend ALL NIGHT parties with their other FRIENDS.
So I also don't buy the LAME EXCUSE BIDEN gave for showing up 2 DAYS LATER.
And now that he's also been placed on STAGE on a different night from LIZ, that once again makes it look like he's AFRAID to FACE her.
Have you seen the CLIP from the HEARING where she WHIPPED HIS BUTT in the other DEBATE back in 2008 when we had the MAJOR FINANCIAL MELTDOWN???
GO HERE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS7meSbM5D8
GO LIZ !!!
Thank you for the link! I’ll check it out. There will be more debates but I agree with you. I’d rather see the 3 of them now.
sharePerhaps the NEWS can use the SPLIT SCREEN as a way to compare those who appear on different nights???
It would also be HELPFUL if they would asked them THE SAME QUESTIONS …
but then that would also keep the ELEMENT of SURPRISE out of the DEBATE …
due to the way those on the 2ND NIGHT would know what the questions were beforehand???
So guess they'd also have to somehow IMPROVISE if they try to use the SPLIT SCREEN as a way to compare how well they did in their responses???
Personally I predict that both LIZ and BERNIE will be able to WIPE the FLOOR clean with BIDEN. :)
Because his entire strategy is to BASH and ATTACK the SCAM MAN who won't be there.
No doubt lol. Regardless, it will be civilized men and women debating as opposed to trump being there.
shareBETO has already attacked Biden and says he's too OLD, and represents another different time from the past, which make him unqualified for office.
So looks like the GLOVES are already being put on for the FIGHT that night. :)
Well that’s pretty lame 😒
shareBETO is only saying what others have also been saying.
Remember how they also attacked NANCY and said she was too OLD to be the SPEAKER???
Ageism to scare the masses.
shareThe younger folks want the older ones out of their way so that they can have their jobs.
They're still too young to realize that it takes lots of TIME to get the kind of EXPERIENCE they need to do a job like NANCY has now.
And that if they had her job ... they'd be just as BAD at doing it as the SCAM MAN is at doing his job ... which is also because he also doesn't have ANY EXPERIENCE ... (even though he's also an OLDER MAN and isn't still a younger man).
Yeah..😒 Joi, how much of the scam man’s crimes will be brushed away simply because there are so many to deal with? I mean, the guy has 20 years worth of law suits lined up already.
shareSince he's already been named as a CO-COSPIRATOR (aka: INDIVIDUAL ONE) in the same case that now has his former ATTORNEY COHEN behind bars, hopefully that also means as soon as the SCAM MAN leaves office they'll also LOCK HIM UP as well.
The problem is the STATUTE of LIMITATIONS will run out if the ELECTORAL COLLEGE places him in office again in 2020.
So that means he could possibly also get away with that ADDITIONAL CRIME unless we vote him OUT of office.
But he also ran that FAKE CHARITY and has also been ORDERED by the COURT to pay back the VICTIMS he SCAMMED in the FAKE UNIVERSITY SCAM.
So perhaps he could also be FINED and/or ARRESTED for that matter as well.
And as soon as they get his BANK RECORDS and INCOME TAXES that could also lead to still more charges being made against him (like they also discovered how NIXON cheated the government out of almost HALF a MILLION that he owed in BACK TAXES).
So HANG in There!!! Time will tell if the SCAM MAN ends up wearing an ORANGE JUMP SUIT and sitting there in JAIL where he belongs.
There is no way he’ll win again. No way.
shareCORRECTION:
He DIDN'T WIN. Hillary did because she received 3 MILLION MORE VOTES than he did.
It was the OUTDATED ELECTORAL COLLEGE SYSTEM that placed him into the Oval office ... where HE DOES NOT BELONG ... because he has NO prior EXPERIENCE and is UNQUALIFIED to be there.
And Unfortunately ""NO WAY** is also the SAME OPINION that MANY of us had during the last election, and the POLLS also seemed to back up that opinion as well.
But there's the BUFFOON sitting there thumbing his NOSE at one LAW after the other one without anything so far being done about it.
And here's the RUSSIAN TROLLS FLOODING this board again ... the same way they previously did the imdb board ... with NON STOP PRO SCAM MAN CRAP.
So for that reason one is also afraid to say **NO WAY** again for fear of it being some kind of a BAD LUCK SLOGAN that may result in the same kind of a thing happening again.
Things are so much different this time. I don't think he'll win and I don't fear bad luck over thinking it. I'm focusing more on learning the policy and methods behind it for the candidates I'm interested in.
shareThanks for the tax table Violet!
shareViolet, where did you get this tax table? I’m looking for more very specific info on Bernie’s policy.
share"I'd believe Warren before Sanders"
Really Jacob? I was surprised to see this from you given your past sentiments on Warren.
My PREDICTION is LIZ WARREN will be the one to COME OUT ON TOP after the PRIMARY ELECTION is held.
Oddly mine too, albeit I have a great lust for seeing Fauxcahontas de-feathered again by the Donald!
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You're ALL WRONG. It's BUUT-TAH-EDGE ALL DAH WAY. PRIDE MONTH!
shareButtigieg is another Biden who will do everything to compromise with the other side. We're done with that. Mitch McConnell doesn't deserve to be compromised with. We need someone to flip that shelled creature upside down and let him bathe in the sun until he's cooked.
shareMitch McConnell doesn't deserve to be compromised with. We need someone to flip that shelled creature upside down and let him bathe in the sun until he's cooked.
More DemoTarded hate speech. share
If its hate speech then surely you can explain why.
shareI think your graphic death threats against a senior citizen speak for themselves.
shareHow does anything I wrote threaten a senior citizen's life?
shareProtest all you wish, maybe the Secret Service will even listen to you...
shareSo thats how your diatribe ends? The simplest question has you tucking your tail between your legs?
Shameful. But not surprising.
So thats how your diatribe ends?
My "diatribe"????
I didn't threaten an elderly man's life - YOU did... share
Then explain how what I wrote would threaten an elderly man's life. If you can't then your whining is just diatribe about nothing.
shareThen explain how what I wrote would threaten an elderly man's life.
If I were you I'd just delete your post - just sayin'... share
Nah I should be fine since there was no threat to an elderly man's life. Also you quoted it so now its there twice. Thanks btw. But since you are so worried I will copy it just in case :)
shareWhatever you say - hope the Secret Service concurs.
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Clearly dude is a troll. He's targeting himself for deletion.
shareQ is a 12 year old troll .
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