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will the Witch hunt for Trump ever end?

posted 5 years ago by Birdmant7 (202)
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I just came across this board on Trump by accident, kind of surprised there is a political talk on a movie chat site about Trump too. As much as I don't care to get into conversations about Politics with people today, but given that I was NOT even a fan of Trump before or even after he got elected as President but one can not deny his actions since he got in office. One of the things that has been going on since Clinton's time was the conflict with North Korea, that went on to Bush's 8 years and then Obama, none of these presidents even tried to create a dialogue but Trump did, as the media portrayed as a War monger, the same thing with Russia, all the bs propaganda about WW3 and Trump's finger on the atomic bomb, never happened either.

Then there is the matter of illegal immigration, but the media plays it as racism, but if you live in any border State like California, Arizona, and Texas and the problems that have accumulated over decades and decades with the influx of illegals and criminal activities then you try to maybe understand that Trump's whole concern is about illegal immigration and not just let anyone just come over and abuse the system, even Canada has a standard and point system based on education and work history to allow people to immigrate to their country, not just some lottery or anyone who has money, like the Chinese who are buying up real estate when they don't even live in this country.

But it's just seems like anyone who stands up to the status quo of what has been going in this country for years, like Trump has, the he is either bigot or a racist, its politically incorrect? Our founding fathers like John Adams, Jefferson, Fraklink, etc, who fought off the Brits to get rid off govt dominance to create this new world order to be run "we the people" has been hijacked for years by Democrats and the Republicans, who just want to their pay checks and pockets books full and fuck the people and we needed the political revolution for years and here comes someone who is NOT a politician, who speaks his mind regardless if he sounds stupid or comical but his actions so far do not illustrate someone who is milking this country's taxes for a war based on lies or some healthcare system, like ObamaCare that made millions lose their jobs.

But lets just all keep the hate and witch hunt against Trump going, because its a become America's favorite past time and lets make his personality overshadow his actions and lets even impeach him, but I ask you do you honestly want the shit that came before him ? Do you really think Hillary would be any different than Obama and that political theater to lie and convince us that minimum wages can't go up or all other BS excuses we have heard since Reagon got in, do you really want the same thing?

[–] JimmyStrudel (600) 5 years ago

As long as Trump is in office there will be a witch hunt against him. The political elite and deep state HATE that an outsider took office. One of the main objectives with the Mueller investigation was to show anyone in the future who plans to run for office that they better go along with the status quo or the powers that be will attempt to destroy their lives.

[–] Burk48917 (10975) 5 years ago

You are one of the few that get it. Bernie Sanders represents the other side of this, and they fucked him too, for much ofvthe same reasons. He was a fraction of the outsider that Trump is, but they didn't like his tune at all.

[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Give Me A Break ! Who is ruining this piece of garbage's life? He ruined his own life before he turned 18. He's a piece of garbage. That politics in general is a dirty business does not give him a pass to wade in and cry and whine and cry and whine because people want to know about his finances. You are the Effing prez. We deserve to know what a piece of shit you really are. effing jerk !!

[–] JimmyStrudel (600) 5 years ago

They absolutely tried to destroy George Papadopoulos, Flynn and others lives. That's not even an opinion, that's an objective fact.

[–] Sandoz (2021) 5 years ago

Will it ever stop that you Trumptoids keep using the phrase "Witch Hunt?" The guy has been implicated in multiple crimes and transgressions that, if he didn't happen to the President, he would have already been indicted. That's not just my opinion, but it's echoed by many legal experts based on what was revealed in the Mueller report. The only thing Trump has really proven by being an "outsider" to the American political system is how dangerous it was to elect someone who flagrantly and blatantly disregards, obstructs, and thumbs his nose at the rule of law in this country.

This isn't a fight about Trump's "personality"....it's about his character. And if you had your eyes open for the past three years--and possessed some form of morality yourself--you'd see his is lacking in that regard.

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 5 years ago

"it's echoed by many legal experts based on what was revealed in the Mueller report"
Again that is what I call propaganda.

"The only thing Trump has really proven by being an "outsider" to the American political system is how dangerous it was to elect someone who flagrantly and blatantly disregards, obstructs, and thumbs his nose at the rule of law in this country."

Really?.. can you please support your statement with some exact examples of obstructions ?
And why has't he been charged for them?

". And if you had your eyes open for the past three years--and possessed some form of morality yourself--you'd see his is lacking in that regard"

Please don't get ahead of yourself and judge someone's morality whom you don't even know and assume that what your version of "morality" has to imposed on others, if you ever read someone like fredrick neichze then you would know that a lot of it is just words that we give meaning to. Hence, I don't share your views of what you call morality, I look at the problems in the State with illegal immigration, the problems with the Crimes that are happening, I have visited jails and prisons and almost 90% of the people in them are Hispanics or African Americans and I ask myself why this situation just keeps getting worse and no one does anything about it for over years and decades?

But here comes someone who says enough is enough, lets clean up the toilet and get the trash out who are leaching this country but then he is associated with low moral character? racist? compare to even Hitler? , If this was Hitler who brain washed a whole country through repetition of speeches and lies that "Jews" were a problem? but when did Trump do that about the illegal immigrants? .

People like you and media are just waiting for Trump to say anything and they read into as negative, so all I can tell you wait till the next election and see who is the next president, it will be Trump again, because people are just Fedup with the BS.

[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Trump is the definition of BS. If you enjoy this, that's an indictment on you.

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 5 years ago

Really?... Lol
So Bush lied and killed millions of people for a BS WMD was not BS?
Obama played a game to just get people's hope and created the worse healthcare system that
people lost their jobs due to corpt not paying for their healthecare and Obamacare also increased
insurance rate, but that not BS?..
But what has Trump done by actually stopping us going to war with North Korea and Russia and
has increased jobs, has done more in the past few years than BUSH and Obama combined but lets just
throw stones at him because its just everyone else doing it without even really knowing why you dislike someone?
You people have already made up your mind, its pointless to even point something out that you all think its OK to constantly put someone down when he just speaks his mind and speaks on what is on majority who voted for him,
because they are all tired of the same BS year after year for promises that never come true; the change was needed
and trust me its people like you who will get their answer on the next election.

[–] ProductionNow (1072) 5 years ago

Right, and the deterioration of our land by illegal immigration is "not" B.S.

People don't know the difference between the time before the brown-people casually infiltrated our country, and now. And even if they do, they are too P.C. or passive to take a stand. (After all, what would their friends say!?) It's more convenient to ignore the problem while your taxes and government benefits are being drained, only for you to then complain how high your taxes are.

Trump has been the only one to reject the self-entitlement of outsiders who assume they can casually do whatever they please, with the aid of anchor-babies, and expect us to assimilate to their customs. The P.C. types naturally dont' care since they won't be around when it becomes even worse, and eventually irreparable. They are too busy scratching the word "illegal" from the dictionary. If you visit, make sure to learn Spanish, and enjoy the graffiti (among the other crap)

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 5 years ago

"This isn't a fight about Trump's "personality"....it's about his character."

You want to discuss character?
How about George Bush's character who Lied to the American people together with his administration
about a bogus threat about Iraq and WMD's?
Millions of people died, millions of American soldiers who have returned home and missing arms and legs.
That was a criminal act but is anyone make a fuss about it as you are about Trump;s character ?
People like Bush and Chaney should have been brought up on tribunal war crimes but no one speaks about that today;
but these endless rants of Hate about Trump who even made peace with North Korea publicly, who did the same with Russia, where he even brought more troops back from Afghanistan and he is actually against this country going to War, but none of that even comes into any consideration but he is lacking "moral character" and that bastard Bush who took this country's deficit to the highest in the US history, who went on national TV and told even United Nations that they have no authority over his or US to tell him not to go to war on Iraq, whom destroyed Iraq and the people's lives based on a lie that they later blamed "bad intel"?.. When his father was giving WMD to Saddam and Iraq to Bomb Iran, but that was ok to do that. But none of that comes in to you judgement of character but just because Trumps barks his issues openly then he lacks moral character ?. He even said in one of his recent speeches that this country can not afford another war and he wants to avoid it; but at least he stays true to his words.

There is something wrong with people like YOU in this country that I have never been able to understand ?..that you judge a person on what he may say than compare to what their actions are. I take Trump over Bush, OBoma and Hillary any day. I am sick and tired of both of republicans and Democrats parties, we need a new way of running this country where politics is not based on corporate bribes and influence. This is what is happening and you are missing all this witch hunt is a home grown bs by both parties that are worried about their cushy jobs, paychecks and doing nothing but lie to the people for years to come and here comes someone who does not sing the same tune as them and shakes up the system and people like you then get all into subject of character, there is a saying: ACTION IS CHARACTER

[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

I have never given W a pass for his corrupt and inept administration. That this has only gotten worse with trump is all the much sadder.

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 5 years ago

Can you please be specific about what has gotten "worse"?

[–] slimone (7996) 5 years ago

Have you ever read his list of lies??? Hundreds and hundreds! Trump is a menace to society! Lock him up!

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Oh please. Do you really not get why Trump is a racist?

He took out two full page ads in four NY newspapers pushing for the execution of the Central Park 5. Those are the five black kids who were wrongly arrested for the rape of a jogger in Central Park. When DNA cleared them while they were sitting on death row he just said who cares, keep them in prison they probably did something anyway. The guy is a complete piece of shit racist and you're defending him?

He calls Mexicans rapists, says there's "very fine people" chanting "Jews will not replace us" in Charlottesville. He said we should ban all Muslims, said it numerous times on the campaign trail. That's the very definition of bigotry. When the US territory of Puerto Rico needed aid after getting devastated by a hurricane, he didn't give them the help and instead called them "lazy". And you know what? That bigoted inaction in Peurto Rico ended up costing thousands of lives down there. Please don't try to pretend you weren't always for Trump because you're a racist POS just like him.

You cite your distaste for Chinese buying up real estate who don't live here which Trump is actually facilitating through his son in law Jared Kushner selling EB-5 Visas to wealthy Chinese at 500k a pop.

https://money.cnn.com/2017/05/06/news/jared-kushner-nicole-family-event/index.html

You say "but his actions so far do not illustrate someone who is milking this country's taxes for a war based on lies or some healthcare system"

No he is just throttling our military budget by whopping increases every year even though we're not at war and tax cut giveaways to the rich that all of us will have to pay for. Because his spending is throttling the deficit and blowing trillion dollar holes in our debt. Who are you kidding?

You're also wrong about North Korea. Both Bush and Obama negotiated with North Korea. They just did it through their diplomats and didn't make a big show about it because they understood that's what North Korea wanted. You don't reward them with a face to face meeting on the international stage until they've given hard concessions, or else you're giving them the chance to embarrass you on the world stage like how they humiliated Trump.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

How soon they forget all that.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Or maybe they remember all too well and that's why they love him. They just have to pretend like they never liked him all that much just to look more credible.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

They just have to pretend like they never liked him all that much just to look more credible.

Imagine living like that? Reminds me of AmeriGirl who confessed last month she 'lives like a spy' and has to be a 'chameleon' in front of her friends, to hide her support of T-rump. How can any President make their supporters live in such shame?

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

In front of her friends?!?!?!

Dude that's pretty hardcore. I can understand needing to stay low key at work since you never know who you might offend or hold a grudge, but your own friends? That's fucked up.

But then again, she's got some pretty far out QAnon type of conspiracy mongering beliefs to bolster her faith in Trump that would probably make her the object of ridicule to people who used their reasoning faculties. But if they're friends I think it's just because she doesn't want to hear reason from them because she'd rather stay deluded and dumbed down.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Yes, in front of her friends. It was very sad to read her post (which I responded to, but I believe she then blocked me), and to think T-rump stripped her of all her dignity and self-worth. Yet it seems he has done that to many supporters - and they've all gathered here.

[–] Cuthbert (732) 5 years ago

Is the OP here somebody’s sock? Sounds it by the way the post starts off with disclaimers.

[–] HushPuppy (142) 5 years ago

If Trump actually killed thousands of "American Citizens" in Puerto Rico, we would be hearing about it 24/7.

That's even worse than the "very fine people" hoax. Even CNN is now admitting they made that one up. To anyone the least bit familiar with politics, your post comes across as total NPC. Your whole point was that Trump is racist? You're white! You love immigrants as much as the Koch brothers, because you need them to scrub your toilets. That's some lazy concern-trolling.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Here's Trump with the "very fine people" clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs

Google is a really easy thing to use Thrillhouse. Try using it to learn what happened in Peurto Rico.

And cut the Daily Stormer and Infowars out of your reading habits. That'll help.

[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

Trump has been a successful, unorthodox, controversial President. He is best option the country has in 2020.

[–] slimone (7996) 5 years ago

Give me a break! He is mentally deficient, a racist, homophobic misogynist, egotistical idiot who only thinks of himself. The sooner he is gone the better. People say he can't be impeached. Not true. Nixon was impeached, and so was Clinton.

[–] Destinata (2601) 5 years ago

I can't stand Trump, but I see no evidence that he's homophobic. Quite the opposite, actually.

People say he can't be impeached as things now stand because it would be an act of futility -- the Republicans control the Senate. The House could bring the charges, but it wouldn't matter if the whole thing dies in the Senate.

[–] slimone (7996) 5 years ago

His ban of transgender people from the military for starters.

[–] Destinata (2601) 5 years ago

Transgender people aren't homosexuals.

[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

The ban of transgender people is a safety issue. Liberals preach that they don't want guns in the hands of mentally unstable people. This policy enforces that belief.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

"none of these presidents even tried to create a dialogue but Trump did"

I stopped reading right here because you don't know what you're talking about.. OR you do, and you're lying deliberately to create propaganda.

Also don't you recall Trump's stupid posturing against NK first? His threats of having a bigger nuke button?

I think his advisers had to tell him that kind of BS is not safe for America and suddenly Trump turned 180 degrees.

People who pay attention remember his first instincts, and seriously, a LOT of people were worried Trump was going to head right into WW3 in his first year of office.

I recommend educating yourself independently and not just parroting Fox News esque sound bites.

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 5 years ago

If you stopped reading then why are you even posting a reply?
At the end of the day its not about people's words, its about their ACTIONS
Are we in war? Did Trump blow up any country with Nuke ?
but people like you who just want to hate and follow the media and play into it will always remain closed, because you have already made up your mind, you Hate Trump, no matter what he does that could even be good. I was not a fan of Trump, I am not fan of him now either, but I just pay attention to people's actions and not what the media or haters say.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

You are not paying attention. Your first fact was not a fact.

Your topic is trash. Sorry.

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 5 years ago

My topic is trash but you still could not help yourself to reply?
And you know everything?...Lol
You are a typical Moron Trump hater
so why don't you bounce off to another board where you can voice your crap and people cheer you,
this is all trash to you, so why waste your time ?
Is it just a sickness for you people to just attack anyone who does not agree with your views?

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

"Are we in a war?"

What exactly do you think we're doing supporting the live coup attempt in Venezuela right now? The president's advisers GOP neocon Elliot Abrahams and John Bolton has been beating this war drum for months. Erik Prince, Trump adviser and founder of Iraq Blackwater infamy, has his merc armies down there ready to carve up their oil spoils as we type.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-erikprince-exclusi/exclusive-blackwater-founders-latest-sales-pitch-mercenaries-for-venezuela-idUSKCN1S608F

"Did Trump blow up any country with Nuke ?"

Seriously? That's why you hold Trump in high esteem? Because he hasn't nuked anyone? looolz. That's a pretty low bar. There's only one person in the history of the world that can even be accused of that. That would be President Truman and he lived before our time.

[–] HushPuppy (142) 5 years ago

You personally objected to Trump ending the war against Syria. Do you need me to bring up your old posts?

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Haha Thrillhouse. You couldn't help but reveal yourself through your new sock.

But nope. I never supported intervention in Syria. But I did object to Trump's sudden announced pullout at the behest of Putin while stranding the Kurds.

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 5 years ago

You are really retarded or just stupid?
I am asking you a question that did Trump nuke anyone?
but you put words in my mouth and also THINK for me to tell my reasons for liking Trump too?
Where do you get off ?
No I don't base my opinions on that, I base it on Actions of a person, like a bastard like Bush who lied to the American people and invaded a country and killed millions of people. I don't see Trump has done anything even close to that then you send me articles based on more BS propaganda created by the media but this is where you get your facts ?

Go and read all the crap that media wrote about Trump' and predications about his dealing with North Korea and Russia way before it even happened; not one of them came true and yet morons like you just don't stop with the hate, you keep going on and on digging more crap to convince the world Trump is a threat to this country. But what you are so blind to is that a huge of this country who have change their minds about Trump are even scared to speak up to defend him, then to get attacked for it by people like you,. So just wait till the next election and then you will get your answer and that should then shut you up to know that people are tired of the Bull SHIT and it was the lies and distrust the produced Trump, so wake the fuck up to reality, Trump is just a person who wants the same change that others who voted for him wants, its not about racism its about cleaning up the mess.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

I quoted you verbatim, answered your question, and asked you some questions. How can you accuse me of putting words in your mouth?

I didn't start with the insults, you were responding to another poster, but since you couldn't help yourself I'll gladly reciprocate.

Are you really retarded or just stupid?

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 5 years ago

It's pointless to even have any constructive discussion with someone who has this kind of thinking as you do; even if Trump creates world peace tomorrow people like you will question it that its all some show and fake, this is why I posted this thread, because I am sick and tired of the hearing the same thing, ever since this man got in office its just none stop? he has not done anything to put this country in any danger or threat, but if its not one thing to attack him about then you people harp on something else?...

I didn't even vote for this guy, but I just seat back and hear all these negative remarks based on assumptions to be subjective and wonder where all this is coming from other than media and parties who have hand in the media like Democrats; even Republicans who can not control Trump like the puppet they wanted to him, so they all joined in to get rid off him. This is what you and many like you are blinded to that Trump is a threat to them and a threat to the way things were going, even Bernie Sanders whom I did like said it that we need a political revolution in this country, Trump is the revolution and yes its not what you expected and what you like but its here and its not going away because its not politically correct to say this or that; this is what we need to make the changes to dissolve and get done with these two parties that have destroyed this country and lie to people to just keep the show going. I think Trump is a turning point to just elect people who are not politicians and this is where you miss the point and I don't judge his personality over his actions.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Not at all. What's this "you people" nonsense? Now you're making assumptions when you've revealed yourself to be particularly averse to others making assumptions about you. What's up with that?

I had always thought he was poised to make progress on North Korea if he had just held to the tough line he took initially that forced Kim to take him seriously. That was before he gave away the farm unilaterally stopping US-SKorea military exercises at the request of Putin and put on this big show summit where he got absolutely nothing. What we rightfully take issue with is how you seem to think Trump has done anything about North Korea when he has not. It's one of his most spectacular failures.

But just to show you I will gladly compliment him when he is deserving, he did get Otto Warmbier back. And when Kim demanded 2 million in hospital fees to turn him over, Trump agreed BUT NEVER PAID HIM! I thought that was brilliant that finally having a con in the White House who was known for stiffing contractors all his life had finally come in useful by not making good on a promise to pay North Korea 2 million in ransom money.

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 5 years ago

FYI, I DON'T watch the news to listen to more bs about Trump.
I don't even own a TV either.
There are many options to read the news that is not filtered and unbiased, but I leave the TV to people like you.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Well that explains a lot. No wonder you weren't even aware that every administration going back to Clinton has also tried to negotiate with North Korea.

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 5 years ago

there is Trying and there is actually DOING IT with Actions.
Bush said the same thing and all they did was add to the conflict with making people more paranoid.
The same thing with Obama, nothing changed with North Korea but how come this guy whom you think is a bad person"TRUMP" made that happen? where even it became televised nationwide, then people like you call it a show not a seeing that we are not in a war?.
I don't give a fuck about WORDS but you obviously believe whatever you Read to be TRUE?
I care for people's ACTIONS not words, Action is character
Do you get that???????????

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

But like I said already, both Bush and Obama DID negotiate with North Korea and got nowhere just like Trump. Christopher Hill is the name of the US diplomat who was central to North Korea negotiations during their terms, I welcome you to look him up if you don't believe me.

The reason why Trump North Korea negotiations are heralded as a failure as opposed to Bush and Obama is because he himself made a big show of it by holding summits with Kim on the global stage. Summits with a US president in diplomacy are normally set up to REWARD a country for coming to agreement so they can use it as a prop for themselves to the world.

Trump set himself up to fail spectacularly and gave away concessions because he felt he had such a close relationship with the dictator that he wanted to make a big show of it. That's why it's bizarre to hear you talk about that like it's a success because "oh well he tried". Well so did every other president, it's just that Trump set himself up to fail on the world stage where the US got humiliated by getting nothing out of it.

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 5 years ago

" Trump set himself up to fail on the world stage where the US got humiliated by getting nothing out of it."

Yeah we really got nothing out of that summit, just the fact we are not in a war is enough for you>?
But Trump again is at fault because he set up a reward to avoid a war, what a terrible man?..Lol

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Oh so we were in a war with North Korea before Trump were we? No we were not. We had the most peaceful relations with them under Clinton. Most people who follow the news as little as you do have enough sense not to pretend like they know what they're talking about.

My point is that you were falsely trying to claim North Korea as a trump accomplishment over his predecessors when you couldn't be more wrong.

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 5 years ago

whatever man?
You just don't quit with your endless hateful rant and this is your issue, I look at facts, so 20 years they all tried and here comes a guy who was never in office for any position and created summit that the shocked the world, but lets give credit to people who "tried"?, like all the other BS they tried that never happened. Yes lets just praise their attempt when a guy who everyone calls a "buffoon" actually made it happen. I go with FACTS not these written words by media that are full of LIES. I take someone's actions than someone's attempts.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Do you have any understanding of US foreign policy at all?

Any president could have created a summit with the North Korean leader. In fact North Korea was pounding the table for 20 years demanding a face to face meeting with the US President.

It's diplomacy 101 in US political science, you do NOT reward a lesser adversary you're negotiating with a sit down one-on-one summit with the President of the United States until you've actually hammered out an agreement beforehand. That would be giving the enemy something for nothing. A cardinal rule of negotiations is you don't negotiate against yourself. That's exactly what Trump did by rewarding North Korea with exactly what they wanted, a meeting on the global stage that they can use as propaganda back home for generations to come without having agreed to anything.

Trump was completely humiliating the US when he saluted a North Korean general on camera for crying out loud. He was bragging to the press how he had "fallen in love" with the North Korean leader. Those are literally his words, it's not a lie. Look it up, he says it on tape.

Do you know why it was humiliating? I would have been fine with all that if he had actually cemented an agreement with NK to give up their nukes. Nobody would have criticized him and he would have won a Nobel Peace Prize because it would have meant a denuclearized Korea. The reason it was humiliating is because in spite of all the smooching on the world stage he got NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH. In fact North Korea continued to brazenly develop their nuke program IN SPITE of their total manipulation of him on the global stage. It was seriously embarrassing.

They were laughing at him the whole time behind his back for being such a rube according to the Singaporean press.

Yet you hail him as your personal hero. You are simply too ignorant of the politics to feel the humiliation. So I'll just have to be embarrassed for you.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Mueller report contains a list of instances of Trump obstructing justice, so the "witch hunt" claim doesn't hold up.

[–] Destinata (2601) 5 years ago

I just saw that the Trump family is suing to keep their financial records private. I'd like to know which countries with dictatorships Trump owes a ton of money to, and therefore might be willing to give them a break. It's a matter of national security. Of course, Trump said he'd divested himself from all interest in the family businesses, but he's going to pick it right back up when he gets out of office. And he still keeps in close contact with his kids who are running the businesses. We really ought to see those records.

If he'd put the businesses in a blind trust, as most wealthy Presidents do, he'd not be facing these problems. That, and if he didn't have a habit of inflating his worth....

[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

Oh and Faux News BASHED Obama HARD for even WANTING dialogue with NK, damn near calling him a traitor, Obama willing to give attention to Dictators, on and on.

Then Trump does it and Fox is all patriotic music, American flags and branding Trump a peace bringing hero.

There are comparison videos.

Pure propaganda.