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Teenagers in MAGA Hats Mock/Taunt an Omaha Elder and Vietnam Vet at the Indigenous Peoples March


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIG5ZB0fw1k
https://pmd.cdn.turner.com/cnn/big/us/2019/01/20/teens-mock-native-elder-sidner-pkg-nr-vpx.cnn_2424827_768x432_1300k.mp4

Just looking at these douchey kids, they look like the type of average to below average IQ grunts you'd send off to war, bullies, or future frat boys in college that are pro hazing.

Update:
Still douchey acting kids but the perpetrators were from a small group of 4-6 black folks calling themselves Hebrew Israelites who were starting all kinds of trouble with racial slurs and other hateful rhetoric.

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I always felt like MAGA fit right in with the fraternity mentality. If you were the type to get wasted like Brett Kavanaugh did in high school and college then you're probably a Trump supporter.

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A mix of getting drunk and/or smoking pot. You should hear the 5G conspiracy Alex Jones mouths on about and the people that talk to him sound like those types as well.

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The pot is ubiquitous. The conspiracy stuff comes mostly from people who overdo meth.

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This entire situation makes me disgusted.

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Looks like there's more to the story. Honestly, ninety-nine percent of these "right-wing hate" stories turn out to be false, but once the story goes viral, the damage is done. Well done again, lefties.

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It's still very bad behavior on the part of those youngsters.

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To which behavior are you referring?

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Complete utter fake news. Full unedited video shows the only bigoted statement made, was by the Native man saying "Go back to the Europe". Also, no 'build the wall' chants were made.

https://youtu.be/t3EC1_gcr34?t=4320 Starts at 1:12:00

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It was a response to the bigoted statement of Trump if not Trump supporters so in return you got this which makes sense since they were there first. In any case, fast forward history, they got conquered and mostly wiped out and now we have what we have today. I guess you could say Trump sees this happening to them now in some way with a silent invasion sort of speak coming from the south. Doesn't change the fact on how the kids reacted though which was still douchey if not cringey to say the least.

I see what you mean though with how the media edited out the rest and only showed that part.

Black Hebrew Israelite preachers of sort:
1:06:45 threatening an innocent bystander with violence
1:07:40 calls the kids "incest babies"
1:15:20 calls the kids "future school shooters"
1:24:53 is booed when he lets loose with homophobic slurs
1:27:00 "there will be no peace until there is bloodshed"

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Religion makes people so ignorant. All of these arguments over which god is the real god has a way of taking peoples' eyes off the ball as to what is truly important in life.

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From what I heard from MSM, it seems like the native was just trying to intervene between the 2 groups.

https://pmd.cdn.turner.com/cnn/big/us/2019/01/20/teens-mock-native-elder-sidner-pkg-nr-vpx.cnn_2424827_768x432_1300k.mp4

Perpetrators seems to be from the black folks making slurs and such towards the students before they started gathering.

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Yeah thats kinda what I figured. The preachers are making slurs and acting as damn fools because they believe the crowd doesn't accept "Yahawah" as the one true god. I think they are some kind of neo-Israelites because Yahawah is the term those types typicallly use.

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They believe black people are the true Jewish people from the Bible and today's jews are the synagogue of satan

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The kids did nothing wrong. The native guy with the drum is known for doing this stunt to intimidate people.

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Yes, a trying to keep the peace is intimidation.

You'll say anything to defend anyone with a MAGA hat because you're another bland, blatant, brainless troll.

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Yet you're the one arguing along with Phillips that the black Israelites spewing hate speech at everyone who passed by felt threatened by students who responded to their hate with positivity.

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Fyi, you've either mistaken me for another username or replied to me on accident.

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Nathan Phillips, the Native American elder and veteran was interviewed this morning on TV. He revealed more of the story. He said that he became concerned because about six black people were being surrounded by a growing number of white kids. The white kids would repeatedly leave and bring more back eventually becoming a mob. This went on for some time. He decided to intervene by praying to God. He said the drum is part of the prayer.

He said he blames their chaperones who were nowhere to be seen while this happened.

Interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hByDJArMDN4

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Those so-called black Hebrew Israelites were shouting slurs and other hateful rhetoric at the kids who were small in number but soon become a miniature sized mob before the native intervened in which they started dancing/chanting along with native while making douchey faces. Perpetrator was the small black group and the native was just there to calm the tension from escalating. I wouldn't call them being surrounded from the video I viewed as most of them were on the steps of whatever building that was in the background.

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I agree that the preachers were acting as fools but at the same time they were being respectful to the indigenous people at the march. The MAGA crowd looked kinda mixed. It was like half MAGA mixed with some diversity that weren't necessarily Trump supporters.

You can certainly make the case that the preachers earned every bit of lip they received from the MAGA crowd but there was no reason for the MAGAs to get in the face of the native American man.

I don't get why the MAGAs felt they had to be there at all.

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The Catholic school was there to support their own protest, the March for Life.

And the Black Israelites were hardly respectful to the Natives:

"Video footage posted on the patheos blog site titled 'LETTERS FROM THE EDGE OF ELFLAND' shows the four men yelling expletives to Indigenous people at the march telling them that 'God took away their land' for worshiping animals and that the word 'Indian means savage.' They also insult Native elders, women and men."

https://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/news/the-whole-story-before-and-after-video-of-nathan-phillips-magayouth-and-more-_O6lTVo8M0muOgi6Foug-w/

According to the ADL, The Black Israelites are a black supremacist group. They used the Native man as a tool against the white kids but they're no friends of Natives, either.

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Damn thats rude. Religion sure does a helluva job turning people into idiots.

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Because they have the right to be there? I don’t like the smug look on those kids, their headwear or why they were there but if you are fair minded and watch the whole video, it’s obvious they were grouping together as a defense against some really awful slurs and that Native American elder was burying into their group because he had his own agenda vis-a-vis the Wall. They were NOT aggressive. So the person who cut the video to make this look like they were harassing the Native American elder is at fault.

How’s about the people who bought into this do what we want Trump supporters to do when they are caught out supporting something incorrect?

“I was wrong.”
“This is not what I was led to believe it was.”
“I apologize for jumping to conclusions.”

And in these cases, ask for either the source or for the full account (in this case, video) before forming a knee jerk opinion.

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No offense but I had the full source over a day ago so you're kind of beating a dead horse here. I was the first on this thread to recognize the preachers were Israelites. My only criticism of the MAGAs was that they were acting like a fraternity which they were very clearly doing in the video. The kid in the video was NOT attempting to deescalate anything. The preachers were yelling at the MAGAs and the MAGAs were pretty much standing there taking it. Nathan Phillips comes along and tries to deescalate it and now that the kid's expression has gone viral he wants to change the record in his favor.

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While you're right saying he didn't try to de-escalate matters....he wasn't escalating them as the media (and the originator of the viral video) wanted people to thing he was.

But yes, that kid does have a VERY punchable face.

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I agree. The kid was just being a kid in my opinion. I wasn't crazy about them growing in numbers but the preachers were basically asking for some kind of verbal backlash.

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And let
s face it...they were kids there to support a pro-life agenda....they KNEW they were not the popular position and knew to stick together in a group so as to not be victimized ( in their minds).

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Nathan Phillips is a professional activist who has claimed to have been "harassed" by kids before.

Here's the kid's side:
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1087137470670663680

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Don't take this the wrong way, Daggar, but you can't possibly be dumb enough to believe such nonsense re: their obvious mocking of Phillips. The boy is obviously up in Phillip's face with a smirk which anyone can see. He is also part of a large mob. If anyone made fun of Christian prayers then most people would be upset about it. The Parochial school he attends has failed in teaching him and that mob ethics and respect.

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Wrong. Phillips got into the kid's face. The boy thought it was funny at first or maybe even enjoyed it. In the words of someone else at the rally, they were all confused that some strange man walked up to this kid and started banging a drum mere inches from his face. If it were me I'd probably get nervous and start laughing too.

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The kid claimed that he was chanting along but that's bullshit and video clearly shows them mocking Phillips while screaming their alma mater's acronym. They were also yelling at another group that had nothing to do with Phillips.

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The growing large white mob (hundred+) started to surround the black people (4-6) and Phillips stepped forward (intervened) in order to stop any potential violence. He already said this in an interview. The mob's hatred moved from the black people to him. The drumming and chanting was a prayer to diffuse the situation.

I doubt if the boy's school administrators are stupid enough to believe his pathetic story. The racist kid is clearly smiling along with others in his group which isn't nervousness.

Update:
I just finished watching the entire 1 hour 46 minute videotape. I reiterate that Phillips literally came between the two groups in order to diffuse the situation. The black men even acknowledged that in the tape a few times. I saw one chaperone telling the students to back away from the black men when they began crowding them. They also mention that the students are mocking Phillips. Eventually the large mob leaves. Near the end they are talking calmly to some students about the Bible when some cops show up to see if the black men were in any danger. Well worth watching in its entirety to see what happened for yourself.

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The Black Hebrews were picking for a race war and soon saw a glimpse of the reality of what would happen if they got their wish

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It isnt about a race war. It was more "my religion is superior to yours" bullshit. They were also calling black people in the crowd the n-word. If a black person doesn't accept "yahawah" as the one true god then he/she is just a n-word to them. Its a problem all fundamentalists of abrahamic religions have with apostasy.

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What nonsense. I watched the video too. In the initial CNN report, Phillips told the journalist that he was trying to protect the black activists who were not only vomiting anti gay and anti semitic comments, but harassing black students from the group. It was a fellow student, not a chaperone, who was attempting to have the students back off. However, they continued to be provoked by the black activists while standing there on public land waiting for their bus.

If Phillips intention was to calm down both groups, which is not what he said initially, then walking through a crowd (when there was already lots of space to pass through) and banging a drum inches from the boy's face isn't the way to do it. All it conveyed was confusion which can be heard on the tape. The young kids thought it funny at first, but when a fellow Native American started yelling racial epithets at the teens, and telling them to go back to Europe, Sandmann (the boy in the video) actually turns around and successfully communicates to his friend not to engage with him.

It's amazing how you can watch that entire video and be wrong about just about everything.

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You clearly didn't watch the ENTIRE 1 hour and 46 minutes of the tape because you're referring to the black men as activists which they weren't.

You're also talking about Sandmann's face being inches from the drum. That's a different short tape - not the nearly two hour tape that shows the entire interaction. The long version doesn't show that specific scene since it's from a different angle.

You're also talking about a CNN interview. I watched the entire unedited tape to find out what happened for myself without any news spin.

There were no black students from the group. There was only one.

At one point, when the group is in the hundreds (most were sitting on the steps), some students who were standing near the black men began to get very close. Their MIDDLE-AGED chaperone (clearly not a student) told them to back away. Later, they all leave en masse probably when a chaperone told them too. By then, it was getting late.

There was an exchange going on between the black group and the white group when Phillips and several other Native Americans walk in between them chanting and banging the drum which immediately calmed the situation down. The black speaker even states several times that he (Phillips) came to protect them.

The students immediately began chanting and the black speaker says they are mocking Phillips.

Near the end of the tape, two cops arrive and asked the black men if they were okay and they reply yes. At this time, they are having a civil talk about the Bible with a few students from a nearby prayer circle. Their woman chaperone repeatedly tries to get the students to leave, but they are interested in talking about the Bible.

I nor anyone else criticized the white students re: any behavior towards the black group. The criticism is their disrespectful behavior re: Phillips. The black speaker even complains that they are mocking Native Americans when they are chanting.

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You should note that I haven't commented on nor defended the Black Israelites who are really a religious group/cult.They use confrontation to get people to engage with them. BTW, they were disrespectful towards the Native Americans too until Phillips saved their butts.

It's long but worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdi2Sozqer8

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"There was an exchange going on between the black group and the white group when Phillips and several other Native Americans walk in between them chanting and banging the drum which immediately calmed the situation down. The black speaker even states several times that he (Phillips) came to protect them."

I heard the native american who was with Phillips say that the young men should go back to Europe and that they stole his land. I'm sure that calmed things down quite a bit. And singing and banging a drum is much more effective than calmly approaching another person and maybe saying, "the other group is trying to provoke a reaction out of you, maybe we should both move along".

You say your not defending the black Israelites, yet you say that they were having a "civil discussion about the bible" when the evidence clearly shows that they were NOT engaged in peaceful protest. Why would the black speaker need Phillips to protect them when they were constantly provoking everyone walking by?

"The students immediately began chanting and the black speaker says they are mocking Phillips."

Why would you put any weight to what the black speaker says when in the video he can be heard saying that President Trump is a homosexual and that fa***** don't deserve rights? So you would rather take the word of these people, but the teenagers who released several statements that all corroborate each other are liars?

In the CNN Interview, Phillips says he was protecting the Black Israelites because they were outnumbered. Never mind the fact that they were openly harassing the students at that point. The students were sticking up for one of their own who just happened to be black.

Sorry, your post is just plain weird. Despite your claims of objectivity, it's apparent you're excusing the actions of those who were being deliberately provocative, and believing the word of Phillips who either sided with those protestors, or who wouldn't bother to engage the teens in a civil manner. If Phillips is to be believed, why did he allow the person he was with to chant racial epithets at the students? Why did Sandmann have to signal to his classmate not to engage with the other Native American man who was with Phillips and telling the teens to go back to Europe?

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You still haven't watched the entire film. You're also trying to deflect the focus away from the students' bad behavior. I like what Destinata just wrote below about young people respecting their elders. That's all I'm saying, too.

Nothing you wrote has anything to do with Phillips, who with no thought of personal safety, came between two groups in order to avoid a potentially violent confrontation.

I wrote that I don't believe Sandmanns lie about why they were chanting. They were mocking the Native Americans.

If you can't see the irony of European-Americans in MAGA hats complaining about immigration by shouting build the wall in front of Native Americans, then there is no hope for you. That Native-American man was reacting to their stupidity.

For your FYI, they were referring to Trump kissing a cross-dressing Giuliani's breasts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8
Get your facts straight about what they were referring to.

The "civil discussion about the bible" happened long after the large white group left. Another smaller white group formed a prayer circle about a half hour later. One of the white students asked a question and the black speaker said that's a very good question and after that they all spoke calmly with each other about the Bible.

The CNN interview you watched isn't a good one. The MSNBC interview is better and more complete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hByDJArMDN4

I still recommend you watch the entire video.

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"a professional activist" you mean like the very group the kid and his parochial school belong to? They're just as much activists as Phillips is as they anti-abortion crowd do this every year.

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A new video shows a different side of the encounter between a Native American elder and teens in MAGA hats
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/us/maga-hat-teens-native-american-second-video/index.html

Not everyday you see CNN report the other view once more video is released.

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#FAKENEWS

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This has been debunked, but no one ever takes the posts down — not here or on Twitter.

The best post I saw was from a conservative who said, “I don’t care who started it. My job as a father is to make sure my kid never looks at another person that way.”

When I was growing up, we’d have backed up a respectful distance from one of our elders — of whatever race — or we’d have stepped aside. We would have had our parents grounding us if we’d ever been caught being that rude to an older person. And no, it wouldn’t have mattered if the older person walked up, if they started it, if someone else started it. Left, right — it doesn’t matter. You don’t smirk at an old man.

Now, I know, no one cares about respect for elders, but I’m just saying what folks 60 and above were taught if they were RAISED as opposed to just allowed to grow up.

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"When I was growing up, we’d have backed up a respectful distance from one of our elders — of whatever race — or we’d have stepped aside."

Would you follow that advice even if the person approaching you does so in a threatening manner? You have no idea how you would have reacted in that situation if you felt under stress.

"We would have had our parents grounding us if we’d ever been caught being that rude to an older person"

These kids showed more maturity than all the adults that were present. They did not escalate the situation into violence, they did not hurl hatred toward the black israelites, and stood up for their fellow classmate. Sandmann was even able to successfully intervene during an incident where one of the native american men was hurling insults at one of his classmates.

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We're not talking about attack, here. The man was banging a drum and chanting. If I felt I were under attack, I sure as thunder wouldn't have stood there a little too creepily close with a smirk on my face like a brainless punk, which, yes, parents should raise their children NOT to do.

I wouldn't play the "threatened" card when the issue is that the kid just stood there smirking. No one in their right mind stands too close to danger and smirks.

They did not escalate the situation into violence....
Yes, by all means, let's praise the smirking punk for not beating the old man. That amazing restraint showed great "maturity" on his part.

For the love of Mike.... 🤦🏼‍♀️

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People can watch the video and judge for themselves. I'm certain that your perspective is the minority opinion. The kid was put in an uncomfortable situation, made worse by the fact that he was aware he was being filmed. The other students could be heard asking what was going on as they clearly didn't understand what Phillips was doing there. What would you assume if someone had walked right up to you and locked eyes? Would you run away or at least attempt to understand them? If Phillips intention was to deescalate the situation, he could have done so by merely talking to the student, or at the very least preventing his friend from starting a confrontation with another student.

The students were simply waiting for their bus to arrive and chose not to engage the black protestors with any verbal or physical violence. The black israelites certainly didn't deserve any better than the jeers and mockery they were subjected to. They definitely did not deserve "protection" as Phillips claims. The fact that you choose to ignore every example I gave of how the young men used restraint just shows that you're trying to cling to your original narrative no matter what evidence is presented to the contrary. The fact that Sandmann is getting sent death threats and online harassment for a smirk, when the video shows the students being verbally attacked by two groups of adult protestors spewing hate speech is the height of lunacy.

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From what I can tell, people have obediently broken into two camps based on political affiliation, so yes, I'm definitely in the minority.

BTW, last I saw Twitter, we're now at the point where people are lawyering up, getting ready to sue. Soon there will be the book deals, the tours, the talk shows. We'll likely have a MAGA David Hogg come from this. And those who fan the flames wildly will lament, "Oh, if only this story would just go away!"

The one thing that ought to come of this -- that anyone who calls for anyone to be doxxed, or anyone who does dox anyone, be given a stiff prison sentence -- almost certainly won't happen. If that's not screaming "Fire!" in a crowded theater, I don't know what is. It shouldn't be protected speech, and it certainly shouldn't just have the person banned from Twitter, Facebook, or any other social media platform, including this one. But again, that's common sense, and so it stands no chance of happening.

Few notice there are no heroes in this. They're too busy playing out the "Opinion Rhapsody" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IABRgZH12YA

Meanwhile we have the media egging us on to drive the wedge deeper into that rift we have in society. The rest of the hysterical political theater we've seen so many times we ought to be hip to it. But we continue to be manipulated.

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Agree with most everything you said here but I'm hopeful that common sense will eventually prevail.

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