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You know...when Donald Trump finally leaves/is removed from office I will never look at my fellow Americans the same way

posted 5 years ago by dteam6 (5073)
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Most of us talk about how we can't wait for Trump to be removed/his presidency to be over but I want to address something else that isn't discussed much: The lasting effects of it all.

Donald Trump's election was a wake-up call for me. A rude awakening. I've always known there was ignorance and hatred in our country but I was unaware of just how large the scale is. While not all Trumpers are like this, it seems the absolute vast majority of Trump supporters are angry, embittered people who wanted a colossal change. They champion his crazy antics as "good things" and love that he's "shaking things up".

While I agree that PC has absolutely choked our country (and YES, it has. It's damned annoying, too)...Donald Trump and his extreme tactics were NOT the answer. All that Trump did was skew us from one extreme side of the spectrum to the other. That's not a solution. Obama wasn't a solution and Trump most definitely isn't a solution.

Our only solution, I fear, is one we'll likely never see: a middle road president. An independent. We need change from BOTH "sides" and we need it soon.

When Donald is gone, I have to live with the knowledge that over 60 million--60 MILLION--Americans were A-OK with the brutal Gestapo tactics of Donald Trump--that many of them were willing to embrace dictatorial tactics to bring about the change they were envisioning...that THIS many people could be so easily duped.

This isn't easy knowledge to live with. It illustrates just how out of control this country truly is. We're bad--I mean WAY worse than I realized. This is a terrible situation. We're more divided than we've been in DECADES. So much so that I'm thinking we either need to find a way to do away with the party system or finally cut bait and just dividing the damn states into two countries and be done with it. Either way, we're in very bad shape.

Donald Trump's election has disenchanted me, really. Think of the amount of hatred, anger and fear it would take for THAT many people to embrace such a dangerous, unhinged and unqualified man.

We're in trouble. I don't know any other way to put it.

[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 5 years ago

It's actually a service that Trump and his alt-right tiki torch bearing supporters have done. Americans all thought we were SO special and SO evolved. We all railed against Apartheid and other cultures when they were based on racial hatred. We all look down on those countries that treat women as property with limited or no rights.

Well, we're NOT special. We're NOT "great again"...because we never were. We all thought we'd made progress in terms of race and gender equality and that the alt-right were just the poor cousins we hid away and dismissed as a lunatic fringe. Yes, they're lunatics, but there are a LOT more of them than we wanted to think.

So....you shouldn't look at your fellow Americans the same way as you did before. Your eyes are OPEN now.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

It's both depressing and infuriating though, you know? I feel something I haven't felt in my entire life: in danger. Seriously. We may not be Afghanistan but I sure feel like we're a not-so-distant cousin. There's a damn warzone out there and I didn't see it most of my life.

While I still doubt there will ever be a second Civil War, this amount of division is disheartening and makes me almost not want to even live here anymore.

Did you ever see Beneath the Planet of the Apes? That's how I feel around some Trump supporters. You see these seemingly normal, happy people you've been working around for years and then, all of a sudden, they peel their masks off to reveal their true identities and you see them almost cult-like, talking about twisted things. You just never know about people.

I'd like to think of this as another awakening for our country. 9/11 was a big awakening: destroying our illusion that America was a safe, impenetrable fortress and Trump's election is a wake up call that the 30's-60's not only never left us but are alive and stronger than ever today.

I joke about Trump a lot around here but honestly--it's really not funny at all. I guess I just prefer to laugh at the absurdity of it all but really--it's not like laughing about Bush or Obama...this is serious business. Trump could actually sink us. It's a real possibility. At the very least, he's a big sign that things may get much worse for us. In fact, I'm sure it will. Even if our next president is a democrat who cleans his mess up or some moderate or something--I think there's no putting that genie back in the bottle.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

Did you ever see Beneath the Planet of the Apes? That's how I feel around some Trump supporters. You see these seemingly normal, happy people you've been working around for years and then, all of a sudden, they peel their masks off to reveal their true identities and you see them almost cult-like, talking about twisted things. You just never know about people.

I have an unfortunately true story about this exact feeling. I worked at a law firm years ago (same one where Erin Brockovich worked, and yes she is TALL), and I was friends with one of the paralegals, who had also been a legal secretary for a long time.

This woman was possibly the smartest person in the entire office, and she was very serious most of the time. Extremely professional, always had good ideas. She was highly respected, and for good reason.

This was just a few years after 9/11, with the "fallout" from that still occurring during Dubya's tenure.

This woman decided to comment that the U.S. should just nuke the Middle East, "turn it to glass" as she said, and let it all start from scratch. Reboot the entire region (excluding anything Israel-related, of course).

I chuckled at her dark humor and commented about her "joke" regarding extreme actions.

She then let me know, in no uncertain terms, that she was not joking. She said her statement was literal and 100% serious.

Yes, this whip-smart, respectable woman literally wanted millions upon millions of innocent people to die in nuclear fire simply to purge the small percentage of terrorists that might be in the area.

I lost all respect for her, but luckily she retired a few months later. I also at that point realized that even the most intelligent people might have the craziest, most destructive opinions imaginable.

That was the point I became prepared for the Trump years.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

Jesus...

You really just can't tell about people, can you?

I know someone who said the same damn thing...my own brother. And guess what? He's a Trumper. I haven't spoken to him in a decade. The reason why? He made a racist and anti-immigration remark about my wife. Classic Trumper behavior.

Trumpers sure are crazy, aren't they? My God...

You know, I may be an independent but, if I was forced to make a choice, I'd choose a dem president, damn PC and all. At least I don't have to worry about insane sh!t like this from liberals even if I DO hate their uber-PC nonsense.

PS: This part of your post I found especially unsettling: "Turn it to glass". Wow...it sounds like she wasn't just wanting it to happen but was absolutely relishing the thought. She had the "ends justify the means" mentality--a common mentality I've noticed among the Trumper circles.