http://www.irli.org/single-post/2017/09/27/New-FAIR-Study-Illegal-Immigration-Costs-116-billion-Annually?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1raW-_jp3wIVlsDICh0gTQ4TEAAYASAAEgJsI_D_BwE
And you all piss and moan over $5 billion.
Is it that high? Nice post.
shareMexico needs to pay for the wall, as Individual 1 promised they would.
shareThink of all they contribute to the country in terms of diversity, though.
shareExpecting Mexico to pay for the wall sounds nonsensical. Why would they pay if they are the trespassers who would need to climb the wall?
Anyway, posters are saying that a wall would not work. They are either being genuine or really do not want a barrier of any type. What is their suggestion for keeping the trespassers out then? (the "inmates in prison can climb walls" -reason is dubious. They are not felines with nails. The walls for prisons may have ledges or something to scale. How does one climb a straight flat wall with nothing to hold onto?)
Amnesty because why? (because they see the cute sad faces of the Mexican kids?) So, Why can't posters on the these boards just be honest, and say what they really feel. Either they don'' want a wall because it's "ineffective" or they approve of illegals.
None of you even know what the wall is. It's steel slats. Not a concrete wall which would cost over $20b. And last I checked prisoners don't have access to ladders and rope anyway so the prison comparison is ridiculous.
Dems don't have to offer anything while Trump continues shooting himself in the foot over this shutdown yet dems are offering $1.3 billion for border security. Amnesty was Reagan's deal. Not Obama's and not the current crop of democrats'.
Also Trump said Mexico would pay for it so he could sell the idea to more than just his stupid voting base. That idea fell through so now he's relying on just his idiotic base to convince everyone that this somehow makes sense. It doesn't. It's not practical. All it is is a symbol that says us and them which is why Trumpers love it so much.
Is expecting them to pay as nonsensical as promising they would more than 20 times during a presidential campaign, and after being elected?
Do tell.
Expecting Mexico to pay for the wall sounds nonsensical.
Could NOT agree more! The imbecile that suggested this lunacy must...oh wait...yeah...it all makes sense😂 carry on👍
Why is it okay for Donald Trump to NOT live up to his word?
He said countless times that HE WOULD MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR THE WALL. So, go do it!
Don't take the American tax payer's money. Do what you said, and make Mexico pay for it. Donald was elected, in part, because of this promise. So, I would love to see a politician stand by there word for once!
Source:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-would-seek-to-block-money-transfers-to-force-mexico-to-fund-border-wall/2016/04/05/c0196314-fa7c-11e5-80e4-c381214de1a3_story.html?utm_term=.5b7f5bbdab5d
Well if Mexico won't pay, shouldn't it be hopes and prays to deal with this.
Isn't that the FAIR response to any other domestic issue in the US?
MAGA
share1. Illegals come over here because they know they can get work here
2. The REASON illegals know they can get work here is because many companies here hire them
3. Many rich people like Trump hire illegals
4. Trump himself was caught having hired illegals
5. Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall, not us taxpayers
I don't blame illegals for coming here-we practically have banners flying that say: "Come here illegally and we'll put you to work."
Try starving, having nothing--no hope at all. Try fearing for your life and wondering if you're going to be raped/murdered by gangs every day you wake up. See how you'd feel.
I'm not pro-illegal immigration but it doesn't really bother me either. I know why they do it and so do you. The blame lies mainly with big corporations and hypocritical rich like Trump who hire them. Also, Trump promised Mexico would pay for the wall--not me. A man who can't keep his word is no man at all.
I didn't ask for the wall, don't believe in and I'm not paying for it. Period.
PS: Illegals make no noticeable difference in your or my daily life. You know it, I know it all Trumpers know it. You're just looking for something to b!tch about.
PS: Illegals make no noticeable difference in your or my daily life. You know it, I know it all Trumpers know it. You're just looking for something to b!tch about.
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They DO make a noticeable difference in our daily life. Don't blindly tell people who it makes a difference to. Once again, as (with other posters) do you live in Los Angeles or stepped a foot near the city? Are you aware of how many illegals enter L.A. on a daily basis? And it's only going to eventually spread beyond L.A. to the rest of the state/country.
The lack of empathy is maddening. You feel more empathy for the illegals than you do for L.A. (and U.S.) residents and taxpayers that--as the entitled topic says: "costs 116 Billion per year". Yet, you make sure to insincerely add "I'm not pro-illegal immigration" to sound like you care, when you don't. What are you "pro" for, then? Try having as much compassion for the destitute citizens of the U.S. as you do for illegals. Exactly, we have a helluva lot to b!tch about, and it happens to be important.
And it does not matter WHY they come here, The fact is they do come here, regardless. You, on the other hand, simply don't care, because it doesn't affect "moi" (you) in your daily life. You're quite uninformed and arrogant with what you only think your know about the specific problem, but do not. You are less caring than the man you criticize, evidently.
"Are you aware of how many illegals enter L.A. on a daily basis?" I don't know, give me a number and cite your source.
According to this source (http://www.laalmanac.com/vitals/vi06.php), there are about 130,000 births in L.A. county every year, or about 356 per day. Of those, how many do you suppose are born to citizens and how many are born to illegal immigrants? It's an honest question. You complain about illegal immigrants being a burden on the taxpayer, what about the tax burden of some citizens? There are plenty of poor families who are on the dole who were born here, in fact I'd wager that they far outnumber the illegal immigrants who are on the dole. The point is, it makes no difference to the taxpayer whether they are being looted to benefit someone who was born here or someone who was not, either way they're being looted and it is wrong. I'd like to see you concede that point, at least.
Of course there are poor families (citizens) who are on the "dole", but they are not illegal immigrants (and you're stating the number of births, as if all illegals have children or cross the border with children.) Seems that because there are U.S citizens who wrongly benefit, it doesn't matter to you if the problem is worsened by illegals doing the same thing. It does make a difference to the taxpayer whether they are being looted to benefit someone who was born here or someone who was not, since it makes it even more costly. Preventative -measures is common sense.
shareThe lack of empathy is maddening. You feel more empathy for the illegals than you do for L.A. (and U.S.) residents and taxpayers that
People make up these numbers. I don't mean out of the clear blue sky, but smoking costs this, fossil fuels costs that, soda (doesn't matter diet or no) costs something, etc, etc. I'm not buying what you're selling, and Trump's solution sounds like a grade schooler came up with it. "Ms Brown? Why doesn't America just build a wall around the country, then nothing bad will ever happen?" That's the type of person who is attracted to DJT, simpletons who believe in simplistic solutions, people who haven't been taught to think. They figure anyone with $$ must be admirable.
shareThat's because often things are that simple, regardless if it's a wall or not. Seems to me that everything needs to be made complicated because if it's not simple, we must be overlooking something (similar to what sexual-preference one is, which is so complicated for many people today, and just B.S.). And nobody said "nothing bad will ever happen". And it has nothing do with figuring anyone with $$ must be admirable. You are saying this. And if one bad thing did happen, that does not defeat the benefit of the whole
None of the Presidents that preceded Trump were "taught to think" of a solution either (or they did not care about illegal immigration). Yet, those Presidents were not criticized.for taking not taking deliberate action. I will bet if Ms Hillary came up with a given solution--even though it would be in agreement with Trump's-- she would be applauded for it. It's not black or white-- nobody said a wall would keep out every single solitary person. Since when can't a line be drawn: if it keeps out 90%, or 80% or 99% of illegals, it's still productive. And you speak of simpletons.
Most illegal immigrants come here legally, and a wall won't stop them. It also won't stop border crossings.
The situation is not simple, so guess what? That means you qualify as a simpleton.
Not to mention you have two wide-open coasts that apparently need walls now, and let's not stop there when the entire northern border is wide open. Trust me, when the walls completely surround the country, there comes a point where you realize they were built to eventually keep you in, not to keep others out.
Trump's wall is a common symbol of a dictator. It's a historical fact.
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