Did the migrant caravan make a U-turn? No more talk about it by T-rump - Donald Trump Discussion

[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 5 years ago

Trump knew what the rubes needed to hear before the midterms. for all the talk we see here from his acolytes about "But the economy....but unemployment"....even Trump felt that was not the selling point a group of migrant women and children and families looking for asylum....oh, I'm sorry..."Invading horde or murderers, rapists and terrorists" would be to the Golden Corral crowd.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

The funny part is that migrant caravan has moved even further to the US border, virtually unnoticed since Republicans and FOX NEWS are more focused on Tucker Carlson then they are with the "invasion" at our borders.

https://www.newsweek.com/migrant-caravan-move-again-thousands-depart-mexico-city-san-diego-border-1208525

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[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 5 years ago

What outrage did ole Tucks commit now? Don't tell me he bought linens that were......OFF-white?!?!

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

20 AntiFa protesters showed up at his front door and scared his wife, who was home alone. Maybe she should have had a gun to scare them off? He believes every home should be armed with an AK 15.

Anyhow, they're blaming this on Democrats, though the Antifa movement has never been associated with Democrats.

Just like they didn't blame the MAGABomber (who threatened how many lives at last count?) or the Synagigu Shooter (killed 11 Jews) on T-rump and conservatives, even though they followed his words.

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[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 5 years ago

Tuckers STRAIGHT????

FAKE NEWS!!!!

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

lol! He’s that creepy conservative talking head.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Uhhhhh Antifa is clearly liberal and Democrat.....and a terrorist group. Seriously?

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[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

The MAGA Bomber is a registered Republican. This was widely reported.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

The MAGA Bomber had his photos taken at T-rump rallys, and plastered them all over his Facebook account.

Johnaroth is in deep denial.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

One crazy guy vs a whole group of a party. Which is worse??? Hmmmmm.

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[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

It's not just one crazy guy. It's a horde of them. You'd know this if your memory wasn't so poor.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

A group of 20 or so Antifa members showed up at Carlson's house chanting "We know where you sleep at night". I don't think he was home but his wife and possibly kids were and I can only imagine what they felt. To be clear, I despise Carlson's views most of the time but these guys are total pieces of shit to make what any rational person would consider a threat like that at his home. Also these Antifa morons are playing right into Trump's hands of portraying the left as the angry mob. If you oppose Trump, then be outraged at these assholes because they are giving him a gift with this behavior.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/antifa-group-chants-outside-vandalizes-fox-commentator-tucker-carlson-s-n934131?yptr=yahoo

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[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 5 years ago

Definitely not cool that they harassed his family. They suffer enough having Tucker Carlson in their family.

Also depressing learning some poor woman carried the spawn of his seed of mediocrity.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Where was her assault rifle to scare them away? Carlson is all for that.

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[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

Yeah, they're "so afraid" of that caravan but, whenever one of our weekly mass shooting occur, they have nothing to say other than "I ain't give yuns my's guns, you libbies!" in their finest southern drawls, of course.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

They're such snowflakes. Especially Tucker Carlson.

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[–] Destinata (2605) 5 years ago

"Snowflakes" are what you call a howling mob banging on a door with a defenseless woman inside so....so they can what? So they can intimidate the woman into saying, "Tucker, I'm afraid! Let's get out of this town!"? That's a bunch of snowflake cowards who'd melt and run to their safe place if Ben Shapiro just showed up to discuss things on campus, but they have courage in numbers, courage enough to frighten a woman. 🙄

As for the fellow above you, Northerners aren't going to give up their 2A rights, either. If they can take the guns, they can take away any of the other things in the Bill of Rights. Y'all should think about that before you start ridiculing people who want to protect their rights under the Second Amendment.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

"Snowflakes" are what you call a howling mob banging on a door with a defenseless woman inside so....so they can what?

A howling mob? They were protesters.

The howling mob is what I call the gang of neo-nazis in Charlottesville who killed an innocent person. T-rump called them 'very fine people'.

Protesters banging on a door, and hurting no one, should also be called 'very fine people' by T-rump. They killed no one. Or is murder what makes them 'very fine' indeed?

As far as the 'defenseless woman' inside - to paraphrase T-rump and his republicans: She should have had a gun.

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[–] Destinata (2605) 5 years ago

Trump's an idiot. We both agree on that. So telling me that he thinks a different howling mob are a fine group of upstanding people cuts no ice with me. Got that? I don't know how many times I've had to tell you I'm NeverTrump, too -- just from the conservative side.

And when a mob of people attack a house yelling idiot slogans like that someone justifies it, they're a howling mob. "Howling mob" for you depends on whether they're on your "side" or not.

I don't even like Tucker Carlson, but I think people have to be lower than whale dung to attack a home, especially a home when a woman is alone and terrified in it. They wouldn't have cared if his children were there. I remember when "liberal" meant caring about all women and children. Not anymore.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

""Howling mob" for you depends on whether they're on your "side" or not."

No, I'm going by the definition - not the party. They were protesting and you want to call it a 'howling mob' which echoes what FOX NEWS called it.

"I don't even like Tucker Carlson, but I think people have to be lower than whale dung to attack a home, especially a home when a woman is alone and terrified in it."

I feel the same about a neo nazi driving down a sidewalk and killing an innocent person. But T-rump considers this some 'very fine people'.

"I remember when "liberal" meant caring about all women and children. Not anymore."

Can you ever recall a time when 'conservative' meant caring about all women and children? Here's a hint: It wasn't when the conservatives ripped toddlers from their mothers at the border and caged them.

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[–] Destinata (2605) 5 years ago

And I forget that to you a "successful" protest is when they get noticed.

"I don't even like Tucker Carlson, but I think people have to be lower than whale dung to attack a home, especially a home when a woman is alone and terrified in it."

I feel the same about a neo nazi driving down a sidewalk and killing an innocent person. But T-rump considers this some 'very fine people'.

Since I've told you a half a dozen times now that I don't like Trump, either -- just from a conservative standpoint -- it's a little like telling me "but Vladimir Putin says they're 'very fine people." Neither one of us thinks much of his opinion, but you keep throwing it around like it's some kind of conversation stopper, and I'm supposed to say, "Well, I guess I was told!" Yeah, Trump WOULD say that. And????

But you can't say that attacking a house with a terrified woman inside -- a group who could have cared less if his children were being terrorized by them as well -- you can't say that's a bad thing, too. 🤦🏼‍♀️

The difference between liberal and conservative has always been shown by that old story of giving a man a fish or teaching him to fish. Liberals want to give the man a fish and have him keep coming back for more fish, as they tell him that those nasty conservatives aren't giving away fish, so he'd better vote for them come election time. The conservatives are over on the riverbank teaching the people to get the fish for themselves so they won't be dependent on anyone giving away fish.

Look, if I were trying to break into Mexico with my children, I doubt they'd treat me with kid gloves. But you don't think what they're doing is illegal. 🙄 How many homeless people have you taken in, let alone fed at Thanksgiving? My husband and I have taken/fed countless. But you DO talk big, I'll give you that.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

"And I forget that to you a "successful" protest is when they get noticed."
Very true. I stand by what I said, and so far you haven't proved me wrong.

"Yeah, Trump WOULD say that. And????"
Well in case you're in deep denial, T-rump is the face of today's conservatives. He represents the Republican party. He told voters to 'see his face' when they go into the voting booth to cast their ballots - a vote for their republican candidate is a vote for T-rump. What more do you need explained to you?

"But you can't say that attacking a house with a terrified woman inside -- a group who could have cared less if his children were being terrorized by them as well -- you can't say that's a bad thing, too."

It's called "putting it into perspective". Carlson's home attracted twenty protesters, who protested loudly and 'scared' his wife. There were no injuries, there were no arrests from what I've heard / read. It was a protest. And his kids weren't home.

Where was the outrage from Republicans when a neo nazi drove his car down a sidewalk - with terrified kids on the sidewalk!! - and killed an innocent person? Where was the outrage from Republicans with the MAGABomber terrifying innocent families and employees threatening their lives? How about the Synagogue Shooter? And if you care so much about terrified kids, where was your outrage when Republicans locked kids in cages at the border? If Republicans showed 1/100th of the outrage they're showing over the protest at Carlson's house, we'd be in a much better place. Your silence allows it to fester.

"The conservatives are over on the riverbank teaching the people to get the fish for themselves so they won't be dependent on anyone giving away fish."

And when those people are handicapped, have learning disabilities, elderly, ill, or have some other impairment to their fishing for themselves, the Republicans want to push them into the riverbank and say 'Not my problem. You're a drain on society and the profits of the rich.'

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[–] Destinata (2605) 5 years ago

"Very true. I stand by what I said, and so far you haven't proved me wrong."

And how could anyone prove a fellow wrong who swears that all a protest has to do to be successful is "get noticed."

"Well in case you're in deep denial, T-rump is the face of today's conservatives." You're the one in denial. Trump is a lifelong NY liberal Democrat who wanted to get the maximum amount of attention and adulation, while feathering his nest. So he announced he was a conservative. Andrew Breitbart (and arguing with you for a while, my guess is you think the Breitbart News site represents what Andrew Breitbart stood for -- you believe whatever the latest liberal talking point happens to be), who was once the brightest star in the conservative movement summed Trump up beautifully: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibx7URgVF8U. No, he's not a conservative, he just plays one on TV. You bought it. So do most of his supporters. Some of his supporters actually know better but don't care. Want a conservative? Try Ben Shapiro or Jonah Goldberg.

And yes, the same sort of people who see him as a conservative think he's the face of the Republican Party. Thank God he isn't. The GOP will ride him out, as will conservatism. But since I knew he'd be seen as the face of the GOP, I became an Independent and identify as a conservative. I realize this is not too complex for you, but you'll pretend it is because it goes against your narrative.

"Where was the outrage from Republicans when a neo nazi drove his car down a sidewalk - with terrified kids on the sidewalk!! - and killed an innocent person?" There was outrage. It is outrageous. It was outrageous for Trump to say any of that howling mob were nice people. It's outrageous for you to defend the howling mob outside of Tucker Carlson's house. But you won't understand that, and never will. 🤦🏼‍♀️

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

"Trump is a lifelong NY liberal Democrat who wanted to get the maximum amount of attention and adulation, while feathering his nest. So he announced he was a conservative.... But since I knew he'd be seen as the face of the GOP, I became an Independent and identify as a conservative. "

Wow - someone has "voter's remorse" over T-rump these days. (Can't blame you and the millions of others.) And now that you're suffering from voter's remorse, you found the cure by becoming 'an Independent and identify as a conservative'....just like so many did after voting for Dubya Bush.

Clever.

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[–] dlancer (2036) 5 years ago

It's not voter's remorse. It's complete bullshit.

If any republican left their party because it was being destroyed by Trump and his rhetoric, they would recognize that Tucker's approval of that rhetoric is the cause of the protest at his house. The Joe Scarboroughs of the world understand Trump is the cause, and Antifa is the effect.

The only people that buy into the Fox News crap that the democrats support violence against the Carlsons are hardcore Trump supporters. They are the ones that say "see, the democrats are just as violent so we have every reason to support Trump." Any republican who's willing to leave their party over Trump is going to see Fox News is nothing more than a propaganda machine to spread the message that "as bad as Trump is, dems are worse."

We all know damn well Antifa would still exist even if there was no democratic party. They exist because of fascism.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Very valid points.

Carlson likes to start a fire and then blame the Democrats when he gets burned by the fire he started. And Republicans stand by him, as he's their golden boy.

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[–] AckbartheHutt (1370) 5 years ago

The caravan just arrived. I predicted this 2 months ago.

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[–] Destinata (2605) 5 years ago

One can't have "voter's remorse" over someone one has never voted for. I live in Oregon where you can write anyone in. I did a write in rather than vote for the two worst candidates that either Party could field...well, outside of Bernie. He's now an Independent, too. I doubt it's because of "voter's remorse." I think he's going to run as an Independent come 2020. And that spoiler, Kasich, is making noises about doing the same. I wonder if he and Bernie will have a mini-convention and see who runs against the major Parties. I'd like that. Bernie would win in a walk -- he has very devoted fans, and Kasich only won his home state. Then Bernie would split the Democrat ticket. That'd be a shame. 😂

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

"Look, if I were trying to break into Mexico with my children, I doubt they'd treat me with kid gloves. But you don't think what they're doing is illegal. "

We're not Mexico - we're America, and have proudly boasted that we're the best country in the world for over 225 years. Let's continue to live up to that pride as Lady Liberty looks down at us.

"How many homeless people have you taken in, let alone fed at Thanksgiving? My husband and I have taken/fed countless. But you DO talk big, I'll give you that."

LOL! That reminds me so much of when Roy Moore's wife defended herself and her husband last year, when she said "We can't be anti-Semitic! We have a Jewish accountant". Next you're going to say you can't be racist - some of your best friends are Black.

But if we're having a contest over charitable actions, just remember: those who do don't feel the need to let others know, they just do. That includes getting validation for it on this message board.

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[–] Destinata (2605) 5 years ago

Obviously you DON'T think it's illegal. Well, our laws do. Even the best country in the world shouldn't mean the most lawless. And the poem at the base of the Statue of Liberty was 1) is where it is to have welcomed the people coming to Ellis Island LEGALLY; and 2) does not supersede the laws or the Constitution. If you honestly think people shouldn't respect borders, they shouldn't respect any borders, including your front door. We already know you don't think they should respect Tucker Carlson's front door, but I imagine you have a different set of rules for your front door.

"But if we're having a contest over charitable actions, just remember: those who do don't feel the need to let others know, they just do. That includes getting validation for it on this message board."

Whoa. That IS lame. You're attempting to try to make it look like the high road because you can't say, "Yes, I have."

The reason I brought it up is that conservatives don't want to use other people's money for their charity -- they use their own. They don't say, "Y'all come in...to those other states, or those other neighborhoods, or those other homes!" They don't just talk; they put some actual skin in the game. They show one on one compassion, and they don't ask others to pay for it while striking an attitude and quoting maudlin stuff about "Lady Liberty."

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

"If you honestly think people shouldn't respect borders, they shouldn't respect any borders, including your front door. We already know you don't think they should respect Tucker Carlson's front door, but I imagine you have a different set of rules for your front door."

A. I never stated that we shouldn't have borders (that's tired rhetoric from the right wing). I've said Republicans should have shown the same empathy to the poor frightened toddlers locked up in cages as they did the 'frightened' wife of Tucker Carlson.

B. I didn't know that immigrants were at Carlson's front door. I'm pretty certain that you're making that up. "

"Whoa. That IS lame. You're attempting to try to make it look like the high road because you can't say, "Yes, I have." "

Not that "I can't say" but "I won't say" - huge difference there. As I've said earlier, I don't need to brag about my charitable giving and doings on a public forum, as I don't need the validation of 'worthiness' as you do. I have never made public what I've done for charity, as I don't find it's something you do to get recognition in return. Obviously, you're quite the opposite.

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[–] Destinata (2605) 5 years ago

If we're going to have borders, then we have rules regarding them, and we enforce them. It's when it gets to the rules and the enforcing that you seem to have the problem, which is the same as not wanting any borders at all.

I've said Republicans should have shown the same empathy to the poor frightened toddlers locked up in cages as they did the 'frightened' wife of Tucker Carlson.

Oh. My bad. You don't remember when Ted Cruz and Glenn Beck went down with Teddy bears and blankets to call attention to their plight UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION? Guess not.

No, you "won't say," because you're far too good a person. Sorry, given your track record and your childish name calling, I'm just not buying it for some reason. 😂 But thanks for the laugh!

Oh, you just glossed over the reason WHY I brought it up -- that liberals want to be charitable with OTHER PEOPLE'S money, and conservatives prefer to be charitable one on one or through their churches. I wasn't bragging -- that's the spin you want to put on it. I was making a point: Do you just talk? Is it all rhetoric, posturing, and voting on how to use other people's money? Rather than being a paper tiger, one would think you'd rather not set yourself up to be poster boy for another of the negative images of liberals. As Maggie Thatcher used to say, "The problem with socialism [read "modern day liberalism"] is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

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[–] AckbartheHutt (1370) 5 years ago

The caravan is here and where is doggie?

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I love how you stole the term for liberals. Democrats are such NPCs.

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[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

What's sad (and embarrassing) is that every word you wrote isn't even the slightest exaggeration.

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[–] Keelai (31892) 5 years ago

Last week, a guest on CNBC or CNN said starting on Wednesday, one day after the mid-term elections, Trump won't talk about the migrants anymore because he is using it to scare his supporters into voting for Republicans. He said there was no crisis and the military wasn't needed especially when the migrants were weeks from the border. He was angry that Trump was exploiting the military for political purposes.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Everyone with a soul was angry that T-rump was exploiting the military and casting fear among gullible Americans for political purposes. And look how far he got by doing so.

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[–] dlancer (2036) 5 years ago

Acosta got his press pass taken just for bringing it up.

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[–] Destinata (2605) 5 years ago

Wow. This was posted nine hours ago and you didn't know they'd just taken a breather in Mexico City and are now headed for Tijuana? Also that Trump's illegal EO to overturn Obama's illegal EO got tossed out of court?

...and now Jeff Sessions is the enemy.

Jeff Sessions has been the enemy since he quite rightly recused himself.

But he was warned. Trump needed him to get some cred with real conservatives. I don't know who it worked on. The real conservatives told Sessions he'd be thrown under the bus the moment he was no longer useful because Trump doesn't want an honest conservative in that post. Trump tried everything to make him resign. I wonder what did the trick? I hear that threatening to take their pension is most effective.

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[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Sessions did cave by resigning. He should have made Trump fire him.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

On Monday I was in the elevator with an old man full of "the Kool-Aid" who asked if I was voting, and said "If you vote wrong, you're screwed here in California. There won't be any jobs left for working professionals once 11,000 illegal immigrants pour over that border!"

Then as I was walking out of the elevator on my floor, he kept saying something... yeesh.

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[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

What a tool.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

You should have told him it's the thousands of Asians coming here with PHDs and MBAs who are stealing our sought-after jobs, and tT-rump is welcoming them. Not immigrants from Mexico - they're taking the jobs Americans feel are 'beneath them'.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 5 years ago

Yeah, if I was a doctor, for example, I'd emigrate to India, change my name to match the local culture, then apply for a work visa and get a nice U.S. job in health care. It would probably be best to do med school in India, too, to complete the illusion.

Then I'd show up and they'd be like, "Where's Dr. Koothrapali?"

"That's me!"

"But you're just a regular white guy who speaks perfect English."

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[–] dlancer (2036) 5 years ago

FOX News for November:

November 1st: Caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans.
November 2nd: Caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans.
November 3rd: Caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans.
November 4th: Caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans.
November 5th: Caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans.
November 6th: Caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans, caravans.
November 7th: Acosta.
November 8th: Antifa.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

CNN/MSNBC: Russia!!!!!! Don’t pay attention to the improved economy!! 2017-Current day.

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[–] dlancer (2036) 5 years ago

CNN and MSNBC have been paying the same attention to the economy in 2017 and 2018 that they were in 2016, because it's the same :)

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[–] Bubbathegut (17225) 5 years ago

MEXICO CITY -- Thousands of Central American migrants decided to depart Mexico City early Friday and head toward the northern city of Tijuana, opting for the longer but likely safer route to the U.S. border, caravan organizers said.

The decision was made late Thursday in a Mexico City stadium where roughly 5,000 migrants have spent the past few days resting, receiving medical attention and debating to how to proceed with their arduous trek.

They will proceed toward the U.S. on the heels of President Trump's latest move to tighten the nation's asylum rules, as he had declared he would do last week ahead of Tuesday's midterms. The administration announced on Thursday that it was moving forward with a regulation withholding asylum protection from immigrants who cross the border illegally first.

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[–] TimMC (9143) 5 years ago

WHAT? You are blaming the invasion on Trump? Are you ******** insane. He is the president of the USA during the invasion. The invaders, said only GOD will stop them from crossing the US border. That is an invasion.