The best President ever?
I think he is doing a pretty good job despite all the junk Obama left him to fix.
Terrorist groups like the KKK and Nazis believe he's doing a good job since they feel emboldened to march through the streets with torches and kill an innocent woman.
shareBarack Obama's Failed Presidency
http://www.hoover.org/research/barack-obamas-failed-presidency
I decided to fact check hoover.org
"These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation...The Hoover Institution has a right-center bias in reporting and political affiliation. They also have published some articles that do not support the consensus of science. (7/14/2016)"
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/hoover-institution/
It sounds like you hate Obama because he's black, support white supremacist terrorism and seek out your "information" supporting your bigotry from questionable sources. Am I wrong?
what does snopes say? (that's my goto for fact checking lies)
shareI didn't read the link because the source is questionable so I wouldn't know what to fact check on snopes.
I agree that snopes is a great website for fact checking lies and mediafactcheck.org rated it very positively and with the least bias.
"...minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes). The reporting is factual and usually sourced. These are the most credible media sources."
The facts are all over the internet.
shareThe Iran nuclear deal is an agreement to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons. Trump wants to annul this deal without putting another in its place so Iran can freely build nuclear weapons. Why isn't that a stupid idea? Why would he want Iran to be in the same position as North Korea which has nuclear weapons which Trump hasn't been able to stop?
Trump is president so I'd like to hear an intelligent defense of him and his policies instead of rehashing tired insults of Obama and Clinton who are not relevant since they're not running the country.
Trump Leaning Toward Decertifying Iran Nuclear Deal, Sources Say
SEP 20 2017, 10:16 PM ET
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-leaning-toward-decertifying-iran-nuclear-deal-say-sources-n803121
You act like this has already happened yet. Which it hasn't so I wouldn't worry about it.
List of states with nuclear weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons
United States. Main articles: Nuclear weapons and the United States and United States and weapons of mass destruction. ...
Russian Federation (formerly part of the Soviet Union) Main articles: Russia and weapons of mass destruction and Strategic Missile Troops. ...
United Kingdom. ...
France. ...
China. ...
India. ...
Pakistan. ...
North Korea.
I don't see Iran on the list.
So basically all of sudden you want Trump to solve the NK nuclear crisis?
North Korea has conducted six nuclear tests, in 2006, 2009, 2013, twice in 2016, and 2017.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests_of_North_Korea
I wonder who those Presidents were from 2006 to 2016. I am pretty sure it wasn't Trump or was it?
Here again I present the facts to you.
"So basically all of sudden you want Trump to solve the NK nuclear crisis?"
Actually, I couldn't care less if North Korea has nukes. Trump is the only idiot getting all hot and bothered by it.
"I wonder who those Presidents were from 2006 to 2016."
My understanding was that NK did stop their nukes program because of a joint NK/USA agreement, but restarted it after Bush called them a part of the axis of evil and invaded Iraq. Thank Bush and his nation building nonsense for a destabilized Middle East, terrorism part 2 and NK w/nukes.
“I don't see Iran on the list.”
Exactly. The only one interested in dismantling the Iran Deal is Clueless in the White House - not the Europeans nor Iran. American banks stopped lending Trump money because he wouldn't repay. His reneging on deals have graver consequences in politics when governments need to negotiate with each other. We don’t need him destroying what’s left of American credibility.
Well Bush was an idiot for invading a Country on false pretenses. But then again Obama had 8 years to make things right with NK. So he shares blame for the NK nuclear crisis as well. I think America lost credibility during the Korean and Vietnam wars. The US has meddled in more Countries then I can count on 3 hands and 4 feet. All you have to do now is to cue up the Benny Hill music to any news cast and enjoy the hilarity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQf2TiwBFHo
The invasion was really about oil. The false pretense was aimed at the dolts who believed the nonsense about WMDs and 9/11 involvement.
North Korea's nuclear weapons program started long before Obama. They've been determined since several administrations so I doubt if anyone could stop them.
"The US has meddled in more Countries then I can count on 3 hands and 4 feet."
Totally agree. North Korea wants a deterrent against an invasion. The question is would the U.S. invade a country with nukes? Even if it can't reach the U.S., it can hurt allies.
Of course we wouldn't invade a country with nukes. The only reason we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan is because we knew it would be easy with little resistance. We basically have been throwing rocks at each other for years. We both are waiting for someone to make the first move, kinda like on a first date.
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shareTerrorist groups like Antifa & Black Lives Matter are also doing the same shit attacking people and causing chaos... not sure if that is Trumps fault as well.
Nazi scum attacking people was just a matter of time kind of like attacks on Muslims in response to them constantly murdering people for their "religion of peace"
The "KKK" & "Nazis" are a fucking joke anyway & i feel embarrassed for them.
There is a crazy witch hunt on Trump by the left & that just causes more problems in my opinion & it also divides the USA. Half the country voted him in so constantly attacking him is basically attacking all his supporters. I am very interested in how it must feel to be American with the country kinda split in half but I guess it isn't nice.
Here in the UK we have similar issues with leaving the EU but it is gradually getting better now people are accepting it... it was about 50/50 split on that as well & I vote leave & my sister voted remain. The EU thing hasn't created such a toxic environment as seen now in the US though.
I think Trump is okay. At first I just found him amusing but now although he still makes me chuckle I think he is so important for free speech around the globe since the left are shutting that shit down... the left will win him the next election as well because people are sick of being told how to think & sick of being called racist bigots & all that shit.
Damn, dude! I like the way you see the truth and tell it like it is !
Yeah, he shoots himself in the foot a lot but I like how he continually disrupts the status quo with stuffy, self-serving, career politicians. Eventually, in the grand scheme of things, I think the fulfillment of his purpose will become evident.
Wow! You've been drinking the Kool-Aid!
Fighting against racism doesn't make a group of people terrorists. The Nazis and KKK have a long history of hatred and violence. You're in the UK and you don't know Nazi violence didn't just start? Seriously?
The UK has a long history of imperialism, slavery, colonialism and racism so I think you need to check in your own backyard before you criticize.
Iran had a democratically elected leader, Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh, when the UK cried to the US because they wanted a puppet so they replaced him with a monarch who ended up being overthrown by Khomeini. Bush and his flaky Blair attacked and created havoc in Iraq for oil. BTW, it was the UK that gave away Palestinian land which caused the unending crisis in that region. Russia overthrew the Afghanistan leader and replaced with a puppet leading the US to support Osama bin Laden who created Al-Qaeda.
So don't be so sanctimonious when you find angry Muslim extremists blowing up your subways. The US, UK and other Europeans helped to create this havoc.
As for Trump, he is a bigot. Most Americans don't need nor want his bigoted policies put in place. That's not American values. And no, most Americans voted for Clinton.
You mean hate speech. An American president has the moral obligation to bring the nation together, not divide through bigotry and hatred by supporting a white supremacist agenda. No, some Nazis are not fine people. Both parties have had enough of Trump who will resign before November because he's become a pariah.
BTW, a young woman is dead because Trump's constant rhetoric has increased racial tension in this country and helped energize hate groups. There's nothing amusing about that.
How do you feel about Trump pulling out of the Paris Agreement when US is a major polluter? How much faster is the UK going to sink below sea level? Or more immigrants fleeing into the UK because countries near the equator won't be habitable?
If anyone comes across as sanctimonious it's you with your trite Kool-Aid reference.
Klownz comes across as refreshingly irreverent and bold !
"Fighting against racism doesn't make a group of people terrorists. The Nazis and KKK have a long history of hatred and violence. You're in the UK and you don't know Nazi violence didn't just start? Seriously?"
BLM started as a good thing but quickly turned toxic... them fuckers are the ones ruining everything that they should stand for. It is very sadly ironic that these cunts are giving the far right all the amo they need.
"The UK has a long history of imperialism, slavery, colonialism and racism so I think you need to check in your own backyard before you criticize."
Guess who started slavery? Guess who sold slaves? And fuck you because the UK is one of the most diverse countries.
"As for Trump, he is a bigot. Most Americans don't need nor want his bigoted policies put in place. That's not American values. And no, most Americans voted for Clinton."
Completely wrong... and you know that.
"You mean hate speech. An American president has the moral obligation to bring the nation together, not divide through bigotry and hatred by supporting a white supremacist agenda. No, some Nazis are not fine people. Both parties have had enough of Trump who will resign before November because he's become a pariah. "
YOU & all the idiots like you are dividing people but you are so ignorant & arrogant you are unaware.
"BTW, a young woman is dead because Trump's constant rhetoric has increased racial tension in this country and helped energize hate groups. There's nothing amusing about that. "
It really upsets me that you honestly believe this.
"How do you feel about Trump pulling out of the Paris Agreement when US is a major polluter? How much faster is the UK going to sink below sea level? Or more immigrants fleeing into the UK because countries near the equator won't be habitable?"
I was seriously pissed off about this & I still am... however i researched climate change & Trump's stance & his logic is good (although I would still want him to honor the agreement)
There is a difference between a group whose purpose is hate and violence like the Nazis and KKK and a group that fights racism, but has a few members who turn to violence. Not the same and BLM is not a terrorist organization. BLM has also condemned the violence. Nor is it on the FBI terror watch list like the Nazis, KKK, Al-Qaeda and ISIL.
The far right are racists and find any excuse to justify speaking out against BLM.
The UK sold slaves throughout the USA and West Indies. American WASP ancestry is British. BTW, they don't teach in American schools that the British promised to end slavery in the U.S. if the British won the American Revolution. I actually wish the British had won which would've ended slavery sooner.
UK has diversity. But, also plenty of racism. Brexit was partially an anti-immigrant vote.
It's common knowledge that Trump was sued by the Federal government for housing discrimination against blacks and Latinos which is the very definition of racist. Calling Mexicans rapists, his start of the birther movement and Muslim ban are racist. I disagree with you that most Americans support bigotry.
Not Trump's. Oilmen the Koch brothers have funded dozens of global climate denial groups. Politicians receive millions from them by keeping environmental laws weak. Koch brothers also want to ditch Obamacare, allowing millions to lose national health care so they can have a tax break. $40 billion networth isn't enough for them. Two greedy, selfish old men, 77 & 83. They care about only themselves.
"UK has diversity. But, also plenty of racism. Brexit was partially an anti-immigrant vote."
I voted to stop Muslims entering the UK I also voted to keep Turkey out. Fuck Angela Merkel as well who ruined Europe.
Let me ask you how do you feel about Japan? Is it cool they stick to their own? You will call me a racist shitlord but fuck you... I bet you are pro N. Korea as well?
I will defend myself with this before you call me racist again:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/HMmonster
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Worldcinemahorror/
Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/klownz/lists/
Do i look racist?
Consolidating:
My point was that there is a reason why Muslims are fleeing into the UK and other countries. The UK, U.S. and other European countries created chaos in their countries and now want to deny them immigration. Can you see the irony?
There are certain terms you used that are common from popular American bigots in the media in your first post which is why I had reacted with the "Kool-Aid" comment. Bigots here watch those shows and then repeat verbatim the same crap. Perhaps you were unaware.
"religion in peace" in quotes is what Islamophobes say, calling groups fighting racism terrorists, also ignoring Trump's constant race-baiting and ugly bigoted remarks as if he is an innocent.
The 'witch-hunt" is fighting to maintain basic human rights that were fought hard for over the decades. We have to fight or lose them. I don't know how to emphasis to you how important it is not to lose ground. We don't want the KKK lynching people to be normal, again. Trump is trying to weaken Blacks and Hispanic voting rights. Thousands were purged from the registry during the last election on purpose. Certain laws he wants passed that remove rights.
You think Trump is OK. You're entitled to your opinion, of course. But it made me wonder why you think a hateful man is OK. His hate is causing pain. I witnessed a Jewish worker literally crying after Trump won. Swastikas are appearing where I live and do you understand Nazis killed their families. People here are being attacked. And I live in a very diverse liberal city so it's worst elsewhere.
N. Korea is more afraid of the U.S. because the U.S. has a history of attacking smaller countries so I know the nukes are supposed to be a deterrent. Sanctions, but talk of war is insane.
Japan is cool, I enjoy its popular culture and I hope to visit one day.
Anyone can be racist, not just whites. If your ancestry isn't native in UK, then you're an immigrant there, but wish to keep out other immigrants. Another irony.
Lucky that the UK we have water surrounding us protecting us from Muslims or we would be in deep shit like France & Germany.
I want to clarify that I do think the UK and all countries should help refugees (and we help the most) but it needs to be done in a sensible way.
Lucky that the UK is diverse & real Muslims here do not agree with attacks on our people & they speak out against it.
You Americans who are left can sit on your high horse but you don't have the Muslim problem... sure you would do mental gymnastics to justify their evil shit though?
That car as a weapon is daily shit here and you best get used to it if you want Muslims in your country. Trump wanted to stop that.
My ancestry: English. German as well...
I agree with you that immigration has to be sensible. We have a vetting process to carefully screen immigrants. I worked for the Immigration Agency for a short time and saw how grateful people are to live here and most are extremely hard working.
Most Muslims seeking immigration are fleeing those same nuts who are blowing themselves up.
"Trump wanted to stop that."
The problem with Trump is his ideas are not effective. None of the countries he banned had anything to do with terrorism against Americans. He is exploiting hate and fear in trying to appeal to a part of his base that is very hateful. Did you hear what former KKK leader said last Saturday?
Demographically, the U.S. is becoming less white and Christian. There are people who fear that which is why Trump wants a wall, a Muslim ban, fewer immigrants and only from certain countries.
There are plenty of Muslims in the U.S. and especially where I live. Most of the stores around me are Arab-owned stores and there's a huge Muslim community in the city and my county. Most people are decent and just want to support their families and live a good life.
I live in NYC and feel less safe with Trump's hate-mongering. We've been very lucky since the cops have stopped a few planned attacks but most know it's just a matter of time before another attack. It just takes one. Believe me, most NYers have not gotten over 9/11 so I relate to what you are saying. At least the UK has sane gun laws. The US gives guns to its terrorists and mentally ill.
Can you believe there are 5 red states that want to make it legal to hit demonstrators with a car?
I think the Trump Muslim ban is a reaction to what is happening in Europe... Trump if he was smart could have kept his mouth shut though since America isn't even being fucked over by all this stuff.
I remember 9/11. I was at work & my friend I worked with at the time had family there. I lived in a Muslim area at the time as well & it was bad shit... literally the dude at the shop I went to every morning was apologizing to his customers because of the crazy shit and he was really sorry despite the fact he didn't do shit & was a stand up guy.
I loved that shop keeper.
I like Trumps silly wall... what is not to like? I like that he claimed that it was his idea to put solar panels on it... It is just so funny to me.
You and me will never agree on stuff but you are still okay in my book.
Are you religious? I dislike "in God we trust" crap... I love you Yanks but hate all religion.
There are three factions in the U.S. fighting for power. Republicans, Democrats and white supremacists. Keeping out immigrants is a white supremacists goal.
Both Republicans and Democrats are against it because it hurts businesses and most Americans don't want to do the low-paying crappy work that immigrants do. Immigrants are heavy in certain fields like restaurants, bodegas, picking crops and tech jobs. Trump's recent executive order will never pass.
Trump lied and said that there were thousands of Muslims in New Jersey cheering the 9/11 attack. Also, went on ad nauseam about Obama being a Muslim and Kenyan born. He's vile and just hates blacks, Muslims, Hispanics, women, etc. He hates Europe too - except Russia and Putin. Remember America first trade policy - No NATO.
The wall is stupid & wastes taxes. Trump lied and said it's illegals who take jobs. No, it's technology.
I'm don't follow an organized religion, but I don't hate it.
"You and me will never agree on stuff but you are still okay in my book."
Thanks. Most of the people who disagree just bring up Obama or Clinton or repeat Fox News dribble instead of presenting their own opinions and supporting them like you do.
So you pretty much hate America. nice...
shareI disagree with klownz also, but at least he/she can give some intelligent responses.
He/she has raised the bar. Won't you even try?
Anyone who plays the "Nazi" card has already lost the argument, so any civil debate is futile.
sharePoor excuse to not even try to give a coherent and intelligent reason for your viewpoint - whatever it is.
Also, I decided that deporting law abiding wage earners is stupid (typical of Trump) because now their American children and spouses will end up on welfare.
Sounds like something Kim Jong-un would say.
Why would Trump deport Americans? That doesn't make any sense.
One example:
Salazar Bautista has lived in the U.S. for 20 years. She reported to ICE during her yearly check-in. Meanwhile, she is working, is a taxpayer and has 3 American children. During her last check-in, she was told she is to be deported. Stupid policy. Now taxpayers will support her kids.
Trump is deporting many taxpaying breadwinners while their American spouses and children stay which means welfare. It's a dumb policy.
"Sounds like something Kim Jong-un would say."
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What are you smoking?
So basically if a terrorist has a job its ok for him to blow people up. Thanks got it.
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shareI have a question for you. Was i rude to you? You was to me. I don't think I deserved the hostility. If you want to scream & shout like a fucking loony go for it but that gets us nowhere & that is your problem.
Diatribes from the left, guy. Those spouting them appear as such mindless clones, coming from the same idiotic mold. Rarely anything original or new in the argument. Stick to your guns and remain yourself!
shareMy approach is very basic. I just stick with facts & i am a huge fan of people chilling out and meeting half way... I don't have all the answers... sure as shit Keelai doesn't.
She needs to adopt your approach. She's way too young to be on such an extremely condescending high-horse.
share"I just stick with facts"
Your opinion isn't fact. For instance, calling Antifa & Black Lives Matter terrorist groups is your opinion. Lumping them in with Nazis and the KKK is why Trump is being ditched.
"sure as shit Keelai doesn't."
I never said I had all the answers. Your comments are usually kind of interesting. Very disappointed because today you began to sound like a Fox soundbite.
Fuck off. Antifa & Black Lives Matter are sickeningly terrorist groups just google them for fuck sake & they are worse than the current kkk because idiots like you give them a platform.
shareNot according to the FBI:
https://www.fbi.gov/cve508/teen-website/what-are-known-violent-extremist-groups
And not according to the Southern Poverty Law Center which tracks hate groups:
https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map
Why do you consider fighting racism to be terrorism? Are you saying that black lives don't matter?
I am 100% against racism & 100% pro equality and free speech.
BLM had some disabled kid & tortured him & them fucktards have been out smashing shit up in the street.
"Are you saying that black lives don't matter?"
No. You can't trick me into silly shit like that. You fucking retards play the blame game & black people do this: Blacks are killing each other... You are not stupid so you know this.
"None of the attackers specifically mentioned Black Lives Matter in the video and the police found there to be no direct connection. Representatives for Black Lives Matter's Chicago branch denounced the beating but stated that they were uninvolved, and police confirmed that Black Lives Matter was not involved in the incident. But some right-wing commentators and media outlets (including Infowars and Glenn Beck) suggested that the rhetoric of Black Lives Matter and its supporters had in some way encouraged the attackers."
It sounds like you're buying into right-wing propaganda. What news sources do you use?
When I was a kid, it was normal for black men and children to be killed by white cops "by accident" with no repercussions. When a white man (not a cop) murdered a black man, he wasn't imprisoned. Only after blacks demonstrated did the next racist killer get a prison term.
I get the feeling that you don't believe people should fight against bigotry. Am I right?
Whites are killing each other. By your reasoning, it's OK for blacks to kill whites since they are killing each other, anyway.
I started following Infowars but unsubscribed because I don't like Alex Jones.
I like Paul Joseph Watson though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8HJrr4-7B8
I like Bearing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXjScMB2WD8&t=29s
I just started liking Sargon as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNwKnrHB0HA&t=627s
"It sounds like you're buying into right-wing propaganda. What news sources do you use?"
I avoid the news & can think for myself. I am new to "youtube celebs" as well... I just found Bearing & his wife "Sugar Tits" hilarious and very honest. So admittedly this kind of shit is where I get my news... I don't blindly follow though & if they post shit like Alex I would unfollow.
"I get the feeling that you don't believe people should fight against bigotry. Am I right? "
So you think I am a bigot? That is offensive. You need to take each issue & deal with them one at a time, you can't just be left or right... you need to go by country as well.
I live in the UK so I will give an example:
1. The UK has no guns & is racially diverse so we don't have the American problem there (but I will comment on it)
2. (rough number) 3000 people are on our list of suspicious Muslims prone to violence & extremism some who have been known to the police and killed people in terrorist attacks... here is where you can call me racist although religion isn't a race.... I want all these fuckers deported & I don't give a shit what skin they have.
You don't have this problem yet & I hope you never do! Trump is trying to keep America safe from this shit & then you have idiots like Angela Merkel who is promoting it.
Mexican stuff is hot topic in America.... Problem easily solved if illegals just step up & get citizenship & i hope that offer is on the table... surely that shit was already on offer though?
You repeatedly accuse me of calling you a racist which I didn't.
My question was if you believed in fighting against bigotry. Not the same thing. I asked because you were critical of two groups that fight against it; therefore did you believe there was a more effective way?
I never heard of your youtube celebs so I googled. Paul Joseph Watson is an employee of Alex Jones.
I listen/read plenty of news, youtube and radio shows. One of my favorites is radio show host Howard Stern for honesty and entertainment. Trump was a frequent guest. Stern’s intelligent and can read a person well. He says that Trump craves approval and was living a great billionaire’s life. Becoming president at 70 was a mistake and he begged him not to do it. Trump's hated worldwide now and must be miserable. Stern spoke out against Trump's "very fine people" Nazi comment last week.
I still believe he'll leave office by October 31, 2017.
"The UK has no guns & is racially diverse so we don't have the American problem there"
Not sure I understand. U.S. is racially diverse too.
You're seem to contradict yourself. You admire diversity in the UK but are against immigration?
Some of the good things that the UK has, the American Left wants also. Gun control laws, national health insurance, legal abortions.
Fewer Mexicans coming to the U.S. for years. They're a scapegoat for lost of blue collar jobs. So many here buy the bullcrap.
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share Terrorist like ISIS think obama did a "fantastic" job. Their enthusiasm for Obamab is "huge" folks, that I can tell you.
Terrorists like ISIS wanted Trump because his Islamophobia is great for their recruitment. They have been using his bigoted Muslim ban as part of their recruiting effort.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/homeland-security/316697-trumps-refugee-ban-is-the-perfect-isis-recruiting-tool
Trump's also a great recruiter for domestic terrorists like the Nazis, KKK and other white supremacists terrorists groups who have become more active since he's taken office.
When Will Trump Use the Phrase ‘Radical White Supremacist Terrorism?’
http://www.newsweek.com/when-will-trump-use-phrase-radical-white-supremacist-terrorism-651288
BTW, how's that high-paying factory job that Trump promised coming along?
Obama Releases Al Qaeda Bomb Makers To ISIS Recruiting Ground
https://www.gop.com/obama-releases-al-qaeda-bomb-makers-to-isis-recruiting-ground/
According to the authentic news Obama is soley responsible.
GOP.com is run by politicians so that should have been your big clue that the website is crappy fake nonsense.
According to mediabiasfactcheck.com, your lying website "publishes misleading reports and omits reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources...may be untrustworthy...they also report statements from politicians that may not be factual".
It also has a strong right bias so it's not surprising they have nothing good to say about a Democrat.
Just a reminder that the present president is Trump and he should be your focus. How's that wall coming along? How's your high-paying factory job going?
The Hill and Newsweek are run by alt-left liberals. I wouldn't cite sources from those places.
I checked out Snopes and apparently nothing you have stated is true. Where are you getting these "facts"?
I am still waiting for Obama to lower the national debt, he did have 8 long years to balance the budget and make America great again, but he failed. I don't work in a factory and unfortunately most of those jobs were sent overseas by Clinton and Obama, so thats 16 years wasted right there.
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