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Sad and lonely death, alone in a hotel room.


And too young.

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65 is considered young these days?

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Yes.

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No.

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Retirement is the best stage of life for most people.

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65 is very young. The average life span in the U.S. is 77, so yes, dying at 65 is dying young.

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I'm 64, and feel like I'm 35 most days. I play competitive softball in an industrial league (retiring this at the end of this season) and play senior baseball. I certainly don't feel old.

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jinx

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LOL, maybe..

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hope not!

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That's great to hear! Any performance issues or are you usually good to go?

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For the first time in my life, my right knee is starting to bother me a bit, but only when extended fully like in a full out run. I can jump off a chair with no pain at all and run up the stairs two at a time still, but there's some stiffness and a resulting loss of range when I pull my leg up behind me like when doing a quad stretch. It's been slowly getting better, but my plan is to move to playing golf in a league next year and switch to subbing in the senior baseball league. Sometimes it's hard to concede anything to father time.

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Not everyone is so lucky.

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You got that right. My younger brother has been battling cancer for 3 years now.

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"Don't be alarmed when the time comes, because the Day of the Lord cometh, like a thief in the night."

"Rev James Brown" in The Blues Brothers (80)

https://youtu.be/xbq0OuJtErs

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Being a stand up comedian, he was probably used to hotel rooms. I'm not sure he was sad at the time, though he probably would have wanted it to happen at home, i would guess.

RIP.

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His death kind of reminds me of what happened to Robin Harris:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Harris

He also apparently died in his sleep in his hotel room literally hours after giving what would be his last stand-up performance.

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Hopefully a 5 star hotel instead of Motel 6. Unhealthy lifestyle probably caught up to him.

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I wonder what the level of daily stress is like for a comedian who has to do all that traveling, may not have many real close friends, has to be "on" all the time and live in a false persona to entertain people who are probably mostly jerks?

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From what I know about stand up comics is not much stress but very lonely on the road + horrible lifestyle choices. Unhealthy food usually isn't the biggest problem, it's the drugs. Pete Davidson, Joey Diaz, Ari Shaffir, Joe Rogan, Pauly Shore, Giraldo, Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Richard Pryor, Bobby Lee etc. use(or used) all types of drugs, many have been in rehab or claim to be clean. It really is a very different sub culture. If you're an unknown male standup comic and eat lunch with an female stand-up comic you both talk like guys, sex, drugs, more sex, more drugs, who's hot at the other table, crapping your pants on stage. Nothing is forbidden which is super fun if you want to stay a man/woman child forever.
I knew the guy that ran the comedy club in KC. Kind of like strip clubs these guys are really seedy since a lot of the business is cash based. This guys' name was Craig Glazer, he thought he ran the whole city. Pretty much a lifelong bad guy, went to prison in California for drug running. Had to be the guy in control, tried to be a screenplay writer in Hollywood he didn't realize being an ex-con basically guaranteed he'd have very little success. So, he eventually hightailed it back to KC, but even in KC he was busted for cocaine dealing and told the judge he basically had to as all the standups that come into town expect to have a place to stay + access to coke. The judge let him off easy, saying KC needs more guys like him! Anyway, it's almost ironic Glazer died of leukemia at age 65 and talk about bad lifestyle choices? after he died one guy told me along with coke/drugs Glazer smoked 2 or 3 packs of cigarettes a day.

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People use drugs for a reason though.
Also, after a certain age the constant moving around and superficiality gets to peolpe. Ironically Louie CK portrayed this pretty well on certain occasions in his sitcom Louie - the weirdness and alienating quality of the public. They are really idiots or miscreants many of them.

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You're right, look at how these guys end up..a lot of times it ain't pretty.

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If you'll notice, Bob in his later years, put on a pretty significant amount of weight. It has been said that he gained approximately 77 pounds. Bob Saget was always a rail-thin and lanky guy. Basically, compare the way that he looked during his Full House/America's Funniest Home Videos prime to the way that he looked around the time that Fuller House came, and you'll get what I mean. Bob's face looked very full in his later years.

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and hanging by belt, too

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I also wondered if he was Carradined by accident, or by an OD, or even just got drunk and choked on his own vomit (Cass Elliott).

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yep

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You people are disgusting. I was no fan, but have a little respect for the dead. Geese!

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He.... did not look healthy. 4 of his siblings died young as well - looks like the whole bloodline was cursed with poor health.
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He worked for many years helping raise awareness of the chronic disease Scleroderma, which would eventually claim the life of his sister Gay when she was just 47.

Saget would also lose another sister, Andrea, who suffered a brain aneurysm in 1985 when she was just 32 years old.

He and his family also suffered the loss of his twin brothers at the time of their birth, according to reports, although few details are known.

Saget’s dad Benjamin died in 2007 due to heart failure and its complications while his mom Rosalyn died from abdominal cancer in 2014.

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My mother and sister both died barely into their mid-fifties, while my father was losing his memory in his early 60s.
I often feel like I've already passed my expiration date.

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Don't pay any attention to those expiration dates ... you are not for sale on store shelves most likely.

Diet and exercise. For brain health they recommend specifically vitamin B1, B2, B6, B12, D, and fish oil for omega-3/DHA/EPA, and oddly enough 125 milliliters of alcohol a day. A minimal walk of 30 minutes a 3-4 times a week helps, but more is certainly better.

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Thanks for the additional information.

I don't know what his financial situation was, but I'd assume he had some surplus cash. If I was in that situation I'd be consulting with the best doctors I could and try to overcome whatever these issues were. Perhaps he was, he was not stupid. Most comedians are above average intelligence.

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I think when your genes are that bad... there's only so much modern medicine can do, unfortunately.

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I read an article that said he passed away of Covid. Dude died while doing something he loved doing, which was making people laugh, so that's good at least. Still sucks to hear that he passed though---that was really unexpected.

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65... sadly is not really too young. The average age of US males is about 72. So probably 40% die before that age. I dont get why everyone assumes 65 is even remotely to young to die. It really is not. Sure lots of us live into our 80's and beyond but quality of life sucks for most

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I agree it's not young, there have been many interviews with Saget these last few years I was thinking to myself "what the hell, man?" I hate to say he looked bad but he did look bad. So did Garry Shandling.
I saw some show a few years ago where they said obesity is so prevalent nowadays for the first time in human history the average expected lifespan is trending downwards. When I go to the store I see a lot of people that probably won't make it to 60.

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I think the official retirement age is 67, so he didnt even make that. My friends parents have been in a nursing home for over 5 years and they are 85 now. they do nothing other than watch tv and sleep, just basically waiting to die, thats even sadder.

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Well we are all kind of waiting to die when you think about it. After work how many of us go home, eat, watch tv and than go to bed?? Sure we might do activities on our days off but i know so many people in their 50's that do not
Life really is not as important/purposeful as so many humans think it is.

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Bob Saget was 'tucked in bed' and died in sleep without suffering, suffered 'heart attack or stroke'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10394771/Bob-Saget-tucked-bed-died-sleep-without-suffering-suffered-heart-attack-stroke.html

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It really scared the hell out of me knowing that as you get older you roll the dice every damn time to go to bed. I am not sure if I'd want to go in my sleep never knowing I was gone, or you wake up at the last second like in a nightmare and you don't have a chance, or having a heart attack or stroke going on with your daily life. I guess one might have a better chance being among people where someone might be able to respond.

I'm thinking that this died in their sleep story is more for the benefit of children and relatives.

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It's a little comforting to know if you maintain a healthy lifestyle you don't have to worry too much. I either heard or read that up to age 75 you can be basically fit and healthy. After that it's a steep decline.
What really is sad and pathetic is we're completely surrounded by junk. I lived in Asia for many years and when I came back to the U.S. I can't even go to restaurants anymore..it's such a nightmare.

Oh, I remember coming back to the U.S. in 2013 after being gone for most of 20 years. I went to an Outback restaurant, waiting for my old friend to show up. Sat at the booth for a few minutes and then it hit me like a f'ing Mack truck! I said to myself, "was I just served iced tea by a 250-275lb. waitress? Is that female bartender over there 250-275lbs. as well? are they twin sisters?" I know for a fact this was nearly impossible in 1993.

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There was a movie, TV, and stage actor -- mainly active in the 60's and 70's -- named Martin Balsam who also died alone in his hotel room. I remember reading about that and being a bit haunted by it over the years.

He had won the Academy award as Best Supporting Actor for "A Thousand Clowns" in 1965, but was most famous as the Detective Who Gets Stabbed on the Stairs in Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho. He was in plenty of other good movies, too.

He wasn't a stand up comic who went to hotels a lot. He was a semi-retired old actor on vacation alone in Rome when he died. Evidently his marriages were behind him. He was 76 years old.

Information on his hotel room death got a little more detailed over the years:

"Died of unknown causes."

"Died of a stroke."

"Died of a heart attack."

But this was the most poignant detail: Balsam was evidently found dead in the street clothes he had been wearing when seen by other people downstairs in the hotel bar.

Balsam had some drinks, went upstairs, and dropped dead before he could even change into his pajamas. Nice and quick, the way, I suppose we would all like to die.

But not alone.

PS. The much more famous (recently) James Gandolfini ALSO died in a hotel room, ALSO in Rome, ALSO of a heart attack that took him out quick. 51 years old (25 years younger than Balsam.) But Gandolfini didn't die alone. His teenage son was with him. Good for Gandolfini...maybe bad for the son. But maybe not...

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