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So apparently her new book is anti-trans?


I don't get it, why does it have to be pro-trans or any trans? Isn't it about some psycho dude who dresses as a woman to lure his victims in before killing them? Is he specifically killing men or lesbians or even bi? Does it really matter in the end? Maybe it's a fetish of this murderer? I thought reading a book was suppose to be escapism or to learn something, not if it doesn't fit my agenda I will blast it.

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Trans community: We want more representation!
Also trans community: Nooooo, trans people can't be villains, this is clearly transphobic!

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Perhaps you should ask yourself why you’re making a big deal of it here then. I don’t see any trans person moaning about it. Only you.

I get the impression this whole hullabaloo is yesterday’s news.

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Have you not heard about the RIPJKRowling hashtag? They're reeeing as usual.

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No I have a brain I avoid media that employs hashtag mentality.

Still haven’t seen one trans person on moviechat attacking her. The site’s global. Surely one or two of these militant trans would have found us and responded to the HUNDREDS of comments like the OP complaining about trans people complaining.

This shit is like an endurance race. Why bring it up at all is my point I guess. Who the hell really cares?

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Same here. People have made videos on the situation on YouTube though which is why I know about it.

I'm with you. Moviechat doesn't need to be a battleground for this bullshit. No one here cares. Leave them to boil and froth at the mouth on Twitter.

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You forget that a lot of the social media have a thriving trans community that use it.

I only bring it up because it was on the trend so I inquired about it on what peoples opinions were on it. Personally I don't care myself, it was merely out of curiosity since I haven't read the book myself and wanted their take on it.

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The over reaction by the tranny freaks just proves one thing... that they all suffer from a mental illness and are bat shit crazy. Not that normal folk didn't already know that, but now the tranny nutters have proven it.

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Drinking game. A scull of beer every time some bully here calls someone who isn't attacking them a freak. I feel like getting pissed quickly.

Your response is exactly the type of trash talk the OP was fishing for, so thanks for playing.

Like braying bloody donkeys.

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😂👌👍
bang on mate

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I'm pretty sure the reaction is not just based on the book idea but also her history of tweets. See below if interested.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/12/19/21029874/jk-rowling-transgender-tweet-terf

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Interesting article , does shed some light on what actually happened unlike the hundreds of posts here just hurling abuse at 'tranny nutters' and 'leftys'

It seems the actual nub of the whole storm in a teacup , when you dig down , is that JK expressed support for someone who a judge decided would refuse to call a trans by their 'new' gender

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I did not enjoy the one Harry Potter book I read. I doubt I will read this book. If I pick it up, it will just be because of this controversy, which is probably exactly the way her and her publicist designed this.

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Well, that's a Freedom of Speech issue, not a pro or anti-trans issue.

And if she's on the side of Freedom of Speech, then she's right.

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Freedom of speech always wins as long as you don't call for the harm of someone or a group.

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Apparently she hasn't, she's just said things the Trans Lobby didn't like. Which isn't the same as being bigoted or transphobic.

As for the book itself, I bought a copy, to support freedom of speech and because I liked the first three Cormoran Strike books. They were damn good hard-boiled detective fiction. And FYI in the second or third book, a subplot involved people who identified as disabled, and she presented all sides of the issues there - including the critical side.

I'll let the world know what I think of the book when I finish it, which will be after I finish the long book I'm reading now and the 4th Strike book, which I also bought.

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Vox is leftist garbage.

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It skews left, but so what? It rates relatively high on reliability. Do you have a preferred source with higher reliability? You can check your source here:

https://www.adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart-2/

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Absolutely. You could just as well watch Fox.

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Fox is further right than Vox is left, and more importantly much lower reliability.

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I disagree with you on that. And I don't need some website to tell me so.

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So you have no evidence to demonstrate Fox News is a reliable source of information. Can't change my mind that way.

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Where did I say that? I disagreed that Fox is less reliable than Vox.

And at what point did I try to change your mind?

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Well, Fox is notoriously unreliable, I don't know why we even need to have that discussion.

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The discussion was that Vox is also far from reliable.

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Depends. During the day Fox is pretty neutral in the reporting for the most part but at night with Hannity and Tucker do things start to veer further right and sometimes beyond, hehe. I like seeing both sides of the story to judge my own opinions as sometimes you can learn a thing or two with different perspectives. When it comes to comments, at least I know the right and left aren't any better from their own bubble.

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Thx for the link. I can see why people are upset. If she just wrote her book and kept her distance from even mentioning them I would think this wouldn't have occurred at all.

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Her transphobia will be her undoing.

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Why do the mainstream media keep giving attention to the mentally ill folks on social media??? I don't even go on social media and I'm confronted with this nonsense everywhere I go.

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Sadly they have the loudest voice and MSM seems to promote it since celebrities use social media as well.

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The loudest voice im hearing is intolerent ultra conservative right wing crybabies like you.

show me one post on this site from an offended tranny

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I mean, isn’t not reading an option?

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It sure is. Like the majority of people who are making a big deal of it here, I'll bet you a cool hundy that they won't even read this book that they are so outraged about people being outraged over.

This is a joke. Everyone getting their frilly little panties in a twist about something that is so insignificant in comparison to the actual dire problems this world is facing. Let's create outrage over trans people being upset about a mouthy author.

What ever will we do?

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How shaky is the Trans community to begin with if the lady that wrote Harry Potter is a threat?

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He wasnt talking about the trans community

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That's the beauty of choice but nowadays people like to hate watch things they dislike just to complain about the thing they already hated.

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I love bitching about things that I don’t like as much as the next person but it’s mostly in good fun. I have no interest in canceling or ridding the world of such things.

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Same, mostly good fun/trollish fun.

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I mean guy in psycho also wore a dress and killed people, he identified as the ghost of his mother. I have seen some guys act more normal than most people while also being gay and trans and if that is their fetish then good for them. I wil still call them men living out their sexual lifestyle because that is what it is.

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"I mean guy in psycho also wore a dress and killed people, he identified as the ghost of his mother."

Norman had a split personality. He BECAME "Mother" due to his D.I.D. "She" was the killer.
No "ghost of mother."

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Do we know if this started before she died? In reference to the movie not the tv show.

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If memory serves me correctly, the original film doesn't say.
Maybe the sequels address it but I don't remember.

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Norma raises her son Norman with cruelty: she forbids him to have a life away from her, and teaches him that sexual intercourse is sinful and that all women (except herself) are whores. The novel also suggests that their relationship may have been incestuous.

For many years, Norma and Norman live together in the (fictional) small town of Fairvale, California "as if there is no one else in the world". When Norman is a teenager, his mother meets Joe Considine (Chet Rudolph in Psycho IV: The Beginning) and plans to marry. Considine convinces Norma to open a motel. Norman grows insanely jealous, believing that Norma has abandoned him for her fiancé, and murders them with strychnine. He then stages it like murder-suicide, making it look as if Norma had killed Considine and then herself.

Unable to bear the loss of his mother, Norman steals Norma's corpse and mummifies it in the fruit cellar, and speaks to it as if his mother were still alive. He also speaks to himself in her voice and frequently dresses in her clothes; in his own mind, he becomes his mother in order to escape the awareness of her death and the guilt of having murdered her. The "Mother" personality is as possessive and cruel as Norma had been in life; "Mother" dominates and belittles him, forbids him to have friends, and kills any woman whom he feels attracted to. When Norman regains consciousness, he discovers the crime he is convinced his mother has committed, and destroys the evidence.


Reminds me of the creepy perv fans for idols that want them all to themselves. If they can't have them, NO ONE WILL!!!

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I never knew there was a novel. Might have to read it.Is it good?

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