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As Joe Rogan’s Platform Grows, So Does the Backlash. Why?


Joe Rogan and his podcast is a classic example of what happens when echo chamber morons finally have to reach a broader audience outside of their little bubbles. All of a sudden, after spending so many years huffing off their own fumes, now they have to contend with a reality in which they've become the fringe. On top of that, they have to deal with people smart enough to not only call them out but not tolerate their nonsense.

In the case of Joe Rogan, he and his fans have spent the past couple of years priming him as this intellectual powerhouse and this generation's Dick Cavett. However, anyone outside of that delusional bubble who's listened to this podcast knows that it's the opposite. Rogan is a con artist.

How so? What he does is invite intellectuals onto his show with the pretense of giving them a place to reach a broader audience than they usually would. So, for example, he'll invite someone like Neil deGrasse Tyson on, and Tyson will think, "Oh, great! I can reach the young male jock demographic instead of the insular academic crowd." Tyson walks away feeling proud of himself, thinking he's done his part to help make this demographic smarter. But what Rogan did was cynically use Tyson to legitimize his own crackpot views, which his audience accepts without question, based on the logic that if he was "smart" enough to interact with Tyson on his show, they're intellectual equals and therefore anything Rogan says must be true.

Joe Rogan has been able to get away with this b.s. for years, because being part of an echo chamber, there was no one to call him or his fans out. Now that he's out in the mainstream, he's getting a lot of flack precisely because the mainstream isn't stupid enough to fall for his tactics and are bearing his comments much more scrutiny.

Of course, people making the biggest stink about all this are the transgender zealots. But they're not the only ones, and naturally, to deflect attention away from what a con artist Joe Rogan his, he and his fans are going to want to single them out and pretend that only the "woke" contingent have a problem with what he says. It's not the woke. It's anyone who hates misinformation and disinformation, as well as posers like Rogan trying to pass themselves off as something that they're not.

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“In the case of Joe Rogan, he and his fans have spent the past couple of years priming him as this intellectual powerhouse”

I have heard Rogan many times say that he’s not “smart” and to always fact check everything he says in case he’s getting something wrong. I’ve heard different versions of that statement by him over and over through the years.

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I have heard Rogan many times say that he’s not “smart” and to always fact check everything he says in case he’s getting something wrong. I’ve heard different versions of that statement by him over and over through the years.


Oh, you mean that fake humility shtick every phony uses to qualify their misinformation before delivering it? As in, "I'm not an expert, but..." (then proceeds to give opinion that he has no expertise about) or, "Don't take my word for it, but..." (and then asks you to take his word, anyway).

Yes, I'm well aware of him saying that repeatedly. It's one that Rogan has been using since the earliest days, when he was first podcasting off Livestream/Ustream (whichever site that was). It's also one of the oldest tricks in the book, as in, "I'm no doctor, but I think you might be autistic," or, "Don't take my word for it, but word is that jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams."

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You're replying to me, but quoting mrmojo4700. Which one of us are you trying to speak to?

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I think you hit the nail on the head. I definitely agree about the "woker" scapegoating by his fans due to the increased amount of scrutiny he's now facing that didn't get when he was flying under the radar.

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You mean flying under the 190 million hits a month radar (as of April 2019), when the New York Times peaks at 130 million readers monthly and CNN at 1.5 million a day?

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Under the radar as far as mainstream attention, which didn't automatically coincide with the number of hits on his growing YouTube platform. It's more than just his immediate audience that's paying closer attention now. Hence his increased scrutiny.

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Here is a part of the debate Rogan had with Neil DeGras Tyson that proves Joe is smart:
https://youtu.be/6Pl3Sak9oqY

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Many years ago, my uncle told me that Santa Claus could never be a biological woman. It was a hard truth that made me so mad at the time that I wove an entire elaborate mythology around keeping myself in delusion. So did many of my friends. But as we matured, we grew to accept it.

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He's the kind of guy I imagine buys all the stuff peddled in Facebook etc ads like "mudwater" drink and some "doo doo bars" with 100% cacao and himalayan yak hair follicles.

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I never heard of Joe Rogan until a few days ago, when the hole issue with spotify was in the news. What does he say that is so awful?

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Funny you should mention Neil DeGrasse Tyson. I just saw some of that interview, and NDT is such a total ahole, constantly raising his voice, interrupting, being his typical all knowing oblivious Mr. Know-It-All ... I could not stand watching him. I love science and I loved Carl Sagan, but NDT nauseates me. Not to mention that he doesn't know what he is talking about when he opines on GMO plants.

There are a lot of things Rogan does that I find annoying or offensive, and a lot that appeals to .. or I imagine appeals to these mega-macho guys who like fights, and objectifying women. It makes me wonder why we have all this stuff on the screen in public 7x24 these day. I grew up in the 70's and there were different problems and issues then, but there was some kind of society in America.

Over the last 20 years though it's been ripped apart which seems like a loss to me.

But, I do find Rogan, or his show interesting. It is people being at least a little more real ... and in that reality can be a lot of unpleasantness. One step forward, one step back. I don't know what to think about it. I was watching some clips today and he is objectifying women in the most blatant and coarse ways, but then we will turn around and objectify men as well.

Talk about J-Lo's pussy to me is just something people should not do in public. On the other hand we have objectifying thoughts in our heads, or at least most of us do, I do occasionally. I think society is somehow trying to come to terms with new revelations about people from science, and experience, media, etc ... without any science or math to use to have a rational discussion and the immature among us seem to get a kick out of this kind of stuff - and because of all the porn we see in the world, they think it is OK and normal.

The people who have the testosterone and aggression to be these kinds of celebrities usually precludes and real intellectual discussion ... but that is what I kind of like about Rogan, is that he can think, and he can articulate his thoughts very well, and he can interact with different people in different ways.

So I see him maybe interacting with one person like Bill Barr in Bill Barr's mean kind of humor, and then in another interview he is talking to Jordan Peterson, or some intellectual, or pseudo-intellectual celebrity and he can drive or add to the conversation.

Rogan reflects in a way the different people we all are, the interests, the feelings and he can pull it off fairly well, and yet there are times when I just think he is complete ass. For instance his JRE, Joe Rogan Experience where he says something like "what's up bitches" which I just find stupid and offensive and something he should not do.

We human are trying to find the light in a miles long deep dark cave, and I just feel like we will destroy ourselves before we do. And a lot of it is because the egos of us men. The things that mostly annoy me about Rogan is that he encourages a lot of male dominant behavior. They say this is what they did in Germany pre-WWII - they called it encouraging men's animal nature.

So the problem is not that we have an animal nature ... we are what we are, as are women, but it is what we do with it, and how those who are not so conscious can be manipulated and trained to be evil and cruel.

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Don't know why you resurrected a month old thread. I did call out the OP for trolling, now look what happened to his account!

Joe Rogan talks like the working class. You mean Bill Burr, not the US AG! It's not "mean humor", it's angry old man humor.

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I think it is because there are forces in the world that want to destroy American civilization - and getting people fighting with each other is one very effective way to attempt to do that.

There are several entities that want to do this ... in no particular order ... North Korea, China, Iran, Russia, and a very large group of Libertarian groups funded by very wealthy fanatics that hate democracy and feel like they need to undermine faith in the American government, police, vaccines, immigrants, or the very idea of news, analysis and discussion ... anything to isolate people and pit them against each other.

I think Rogan is a pretty square shooter most of the time. He is not a partisan lunatic fanatic like Glen Beck, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, he gets to the reality of whatever issue he is talking about pretty well and is relatively fair minded.

When people like that get attacked - it is an attack on all Americans and our way or life.

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