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Misleading casting directors


Why did Page accept roles as women when Page knew Page was a man? Just think of all the poor real women that lost out.

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We need to cancel and boycott her entire fraudulent, gender-appropriating filmography now.

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She should be fired from Umbrella Academy and let a proper woman play the role.

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she definitely committed fraud here. but according to SJWs gender is an illusion and there are no biological differences between men and women, therefor Elliot coming out as a man is moot.

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Would somebody please hunt me down and shoot me? That post ^^ made perfect sense to me...

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it's all a very smart scam.

now she can audition for 100% of the roles !!

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Well, based on SJW rhetoric only a transgender should play a transgender.
But based on that a transgender should ONLY play transgender roles ... of it's transgenderity,

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But if only a non-binary can play a non-binary... wait a minute, there are NO roles written as non-binary!

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There are few. The chick from STD ... which hopefully will be canceled :D

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There are apparently quite a lot of non-binary and gender fluid characters out their in fiction, in comics, books, film and TV.
There’s a very interesting list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_non-binary_characters

This reminded me of a few things I’ve seen that contain these characters, although it did raise some confusion and questions.
For example -

Lommie in Nightflyers is gender fluid (apparently) using female pronouns. As a viewer, I just thought she was a lesbian, not that it mattered at all.

Janet in The Good Place is a non-human (and apparently genderless) entity that looks like a woman and uses female pronouns. Even though she reminds people throughout she is not a girl, for me that just means she was reminding people she wasn’t a human person, rather than she wasn’t a female/genderless/non-binary.

Crowley in Good Omens is a non-binary character as written, who changes genders throughout time, being an Angel/demon. I’ve partially read the book, but can’t really recall and from watching the show all I can see/remember is Tennant’s performance as a man.

It’s certainly made me think!

In the future there will be many more such roles, no doubt!

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I've heard they cast Alien based on who they liked for each part and ignored gender and race.

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Oh really?

I'd love to think that the line "Did you ever sleep with Ash?" was in the script before they decided what sex the characters were!

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Yes. Early drafts of the script, I think they're all guys, but I think O'Bannon's intention was more that it was "default male", because it was the '70s and he didn't have a "they" option yet. I don't know if it was confirmed or not.

I'm not sure when which lines were added in, but yeah, that'd be cool.

Also, while not written as non-binary, C.C.H. Pounder's character in The Shield was written as male. When they asked her if she'd do the role, she agreed on the condition that they change not one word of her character's dialogue. She wanted to play the hard-core, tough-as-nails, law-and-order cop and she didn't want them adding some soft, frilly edge just 'cause it was a woman now.

Edit: I found a Washington Post interview with O'Bannon talking about Alien: "O'Bannon wrote the script "unisex," he says, leaving it to the director and re-writers of the script to decide which of the characters would be male, and which female. They, not he, selected a woman, played by Sigourney Weaver, to be the last person to face the monster. That was fine with him." So, he confirmed it in an interview.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1979/07/29/inside-alien/c6a6c0e8-9075-4cde-a1d9-23c409632a6c/

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