Manhunter


Enough said?

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Grissom?

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He was Will Graham before he was Grissom

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I know that, I'm just guessing that most people will know him from the CSI program as they haven't had the pleasure of seeing him play Will Graham in the way that nobody else has even gotten close to.

It's like Lekter being played by Cox and Hopkins - the sheep (Teehee) generally go with the flock.

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How's Frank?

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I don't know. Tom Noonan will always be my original but I thought that Ralph Fiennes softened him, or at least made him sympathetic, a lot more.

Do you have a preference Dazed?

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Wasn't Frank Jimmy's brother?

Tom Noonan for me too, I think he created sympathy for the character brilliantly. Him covering his mouth with his hand when he first meets Reba, nestling into her when she's sleeping and his devastation when he perceives her with another man, all in the eyes.

I love Ralph Fiennes and he is one of the good things about Red Dragon, he is too pretty though!

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Wasn't Frank Jimmy's brother?


Sometimes he's Tonchi (Like when I am Pete).

I'm not sure if I'd call this a good thing about Red Dragon but I think that Philip Seymour Hoffman got better screen time that Stephen Lang as Freddy Lounds. PSH's fear is a bit more palpable but he comes across less integral than Lang.

What are your thoughts upon this often looked over element of the difference between the two?

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The thing with Red Dragon is that it does have a great cast, all fine actors. Norton failed to pull of a convincing Will Graham and Hopkins was awful, truly abysmal!

I can't argue that PSH did a grand job as Lounds, but for me Lang has the edge. When he's reading the note aloud I do feel that he's at that stage of fear-shit your pants scared. To see this overly cocky, swaggering gutter journalist in that state is a almost a guilty pleasure!

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Lang does much better with the time he gets - much better. I just think PSH got more actual time though and I think that helps paint the picture of Francis a little better from a different point of view.

In my opinion viewing both movies makes the story richer overall, but Manhunter is the clear winner in terms of everything cinematic.

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I've always said that Manhunter is just as eerie as SotL, it just lacks some of the gore.

Great movie. I'd put it on my Top 20 underappreciated list.

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The violence of the killer is quite well implied in Manhunter I think. That blood splattered room is enough for me!

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He typically does a good job. The Beast was a low budget TV movie and he still pulled off a great job.

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The Beast...?

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