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The Jar Jar Binks of Star Trek?


Considering how much he hates Jar Jar, his character as bungling buffoon with silly racist accent is the annoying comedy sidekick in a different space adventure series.

Could he be described as the Jar Jar of the Abrams Star Trek?

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"What are you, some kind of doomsday machine, boy?"

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No one, I repeat, no one is more annoying then Jar Jar. Jar Jar is one of the very few characters that acutally made the movie worse even though the movie already was *beep*

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How is his accent as Scotty classified racist? I'd love to hear an explanation on that.

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If you think his accent is "racist," then clearly you don't even remotely understand what that term means since his accent has nothing whatsoever to do with race.


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Okay, maybe that was an overreaction saying Scotty's accent is racist as it doesn't actually make fun of his Scottish accent. But Pegg (and Abrams direction) choosing the most clichéd 'Och eye ta noo' type accent doesn't seem that progressive in the 21st century.

What I should have said was 'a bad, over the top, stereotypical, cartoon regional accent whilst mugging at the camera and flailing arms around'.

It reminded me of Jar Jar anyway...

"What are you, some kind of doomsday machine, boy?"

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What about Scotty is buffoonish, exactly? I found him to be quirky but brilliant, and clearly a strong character as he was willing to resign from Starfleet rather than do something he found to be against his principles in Into Darkness. He was funny, but I never saw him as just the comedy sidekick.

As for the accent, it was overdone for the same reason Pavel Chekov's Russian accent was overdone-its that way in the original series.


....and no character that will ever be created will be as bad as Jar Jar Binks.

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If anyone is out of place in Star Trek then it is John Cho, every performance in the new movies is reminiscent of the originals with the exception of Kirk, Uhura and Sulu, but even then you see some of Uhura's sassyness in Zoe Saldana and Chris Pine occasionally acts the way I'd imagine a young Kirk to be.

Sulu on the other hand is completely missing from both movies, replaced by John Cho who plays the part of John Cho, he doesn't even look Japanese in the slightest, he is Korean and clearly looks more like a mainland asian. Now if anything is racist then it was the casting of a 'generic slant-eyed asian' as if to say that they all 'look the same'.

The original Scotty was played by a Canadian who had clearly never heard a real Scottish accent in his life and if anything Simon Pegg has rightly or wrongly tried to remedy this by atleast basing his on the various Scottish people he has no doubt met in his life, the original (James Dougan?) never used words like gonnae, git, doon, etc like most Scots do.

So, wee bit of a duff thread this is. Have you even seen the films?



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I think they cast John Cho because he is well known and a pretty decent actor. I can't think of many Japanese actors who would have done the role better. I mean Sulu was always a bit silly, remember the episode where he starts fencing around the Enterprise shirtless? I think Cho did fine.

But honestly there is nothing wrong casting a Korean in a Japanese man role. In Man of Steel they cast a black man in the role of a white man yet he did a well enough job. Same goes for John Cho.

And it is James Doohan. He did an ok Scottish accent, most of it was made up. I would surmise that Peggs is probably closer, if anything it sounds like what I have heard from real Scottish people and since he grew up there I am sure he has first hand experience.

To the TC, Scotty's character is Scottish in decent. That is why he has the Scottish accent.

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