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She is the weakest "avenger"


Evers since her and Aaron joined the cast of the Avengers they have been the most unapologetic, short sited, and stupid characters of the entire franchise.

Their main goal is to kill Stark for killing their parents, even though he didn't, but still all the damage they did before figuring that out is beyond comprehension.

She has Hulk attack a city, killing god knows how many people and is never punished for it and she whines about it being her fault only for the one Avenger she didn't mind to cheer and comfort her.

Then in Civil War she does it again. She screws up, whines, Hawkeye cheers her up and this time she sends the very man who saved her from falling in Sokova through the floor of a building.

I wish she stayed in Prison at the end and really had some guilt to eat her alive. I just hope in Infinity Wars she'll either be scolded, imprisoned, hurt badly or killed because I really think this owes SO much to Bruce Banner and others. Her entire purpose from the word go was incredibly pointless.

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Someone that can move heavy objects with her mind, fire powerful energy blasts and form force fields from her hands, control minds and psychologically destroy people, etc... is the "weakest avengers" on a team that has a member that literally can't do anything but punch, kick and fire guns...and a guy that can't do much other than fire arrows (granted some arrows that do some cool stuff)...

This claim is just objectively wrong, regardless of how you feel about the character. Your least favorite doesn't mean "weakest."

She's one of the most powerful avengers.

And if we're to go by past mistakes, Stark created Ultron. how many people died as a result of that?

And she sent Vision through the floor knowing it wouldn't cause any permanent damage to him. And what you refer to as "screwing up" in Civil War saved Cap's life and the lives of all the people on the ground. She did what she could to minimize the damage.

+++by His wounds we are healed. - Isaiah 53:5+++


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Okay, she's the worst, not the weakest.

Where do you think Stark got the idea to make Ultron. Was it before or after she brain raped him? How quickly people forget that or how she had Hulk attack that city. What's her excuse for that? She didn't know better? She's just a kid, pushing 30? She's stupid? She didn't mean to hurt innocent people?

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just finished watching Age of Ultron for the third time. I'm torn. I love her character, as far as the mcu goes, she's my number 2 favorite. However, you bring up valid points about her misdeeds. I think her remorseful spirit in Civil War plays a large part in the redemption of her character, although her abandoning Vision to help captain seems a bit EXTREME, I think overall she redeems herself.

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Wanda was evil at first, but she realized she was wrong and then helped the Avengers defeat Ultron. Hawkeye threw Wanda a pardon. "It doesn't matter who you were or what you did. If you walk out that door, you're an Avenger." So she walked out that door and became an Avenger. Wanda wants to be straight and atone for her past wrongs. I think Wanda's character arc is supposed to take her from evil to good.

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The idea was in his head before her. Watch it again *beep* and then comeback.

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Who says the character is "pushing 30?"

The actress is 27...doesn't mean the character is. The Maximoffs are likely meant to be late teens in the films...keep in mind how often people Olsen's age or even older play high school students in Hollywood films.

As has been mentioned, the idea to create Ultron was in Stark's head long before he met her...there isn't an excuse for causing HULK's attack on the city, it was wrong. There's no question she's f'd up majorly (as have others on the team, keep mind Black Widow was literally a murderer for hire), that's the point of the character...it's part of her arc.

As for Stark not being responsible for their parents deaths...if two kids see a bomb with his name on it smash through home and kill their parents, it's pretty obvious that name will be embedded in their heads. Stark himself admits how damaging his weapons business and how he managed it has been.

Stark got into a fight nearly to the death with Cap over what Bucky did when he KNEW Bucky was being manipulated by mind control...goes to show you how stupid and stubborn grief can make you act...and he should be alot more mature than the Maximoffs were when they made their brash decisions.

+++by His wounds we are healed. - Isaiah 53:5+++


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Black Widow is the weakest avenger.

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