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question... trying to follow all this....


so, if you and I start a private sex club (no prostitution, no one is PAYING for sex), people have consensual sex in their own private locations, some are into bondage, dominating, and submissive, others use hot wax, or biting, or spanking or even branding by choice, because THEY enjoy that...

.... EVERYONE IS OVER 18 (America), their by choice, is that illegal some how? Are their laws about how the over 18 crowd can have sex?

What if someone joins our private group, by their choice, for a month or a year, has a good time, then changes their mind and calls it a "Cult" and says they were "Forced" (hearsay) to do things against their will... then it becomes a cult.

Seriously just trying to follow where the line is between proven laws, not "Allegings", and our own right to personal sexual privacy.

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Bill Cosby didin du nuffin' wrong (Apart from cheat on his wife).

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I didn't follow cosby... read he was drugging people... that seems obviously illegal... followed by UNCONSENSUAL sex.
Did they ever have any real evidence? I think I saw he was put away..... I don't really track news like most everyone else on Earth

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There is still nothing absolute in the Cosby case, other than his own admission of infidelity and supplying drugs to alleged victims - and even that is taken out of context legally - and so he and Allison Mack are in the same boat.

Well, apart from the branding part - that's just messed up!

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"Well, apart from the branding part - that's just messed up!"

okay, that is a great example of the hidden problem. it is NOT messed up. It's their choice.

I will honestly tell you - stranger on the internet - that "branding" is NOT for me, not even in my wildest dreams do I have interest in that sexually or otherwise.... HOWEVER, as long as they enjoy it, are okay with it, and no one is physically hurt, do whatever you like, you know?
I'm not going to judge other's sexual practices - provided they are legal and not bringing harm... a stinging burn is the same as hot wax and spanking.

Again, I'm not judging YOU or their choices, it's just different. And not for me. Normal people do a lot of things that could be pegged as messed up. Gay people do a lot of things that could be pegged as messed up. etc.

IF these people partook of their own free will, what exactly is the crime here?
If someone joins a group, and is told to sleep deprive themselves, why didn't they just say "no thanks" and walk away? Were they PHYSICALLY DETAINED AGAINST THEIR WILL? Or did they do stuff, and later change their mind?
I guess we may or may never know the real answers to those questions.

That said, law will put you away based on a couple people's hearsay? Do you know what that means? EVERYONE WILL go to prison for SOMETHING during their lifetime. Scary ways.

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Apparently people were detained against their will in this one gjg.

It will take the evidence coming out in court for this to be proven though.

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Ha. Well that's no way to run an effective and responsible sex cult. :D

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I agree, but again - let's have the courts decide on what is true or otherwise.

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yup

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well, the leader will be going down for sure :)

http://www.syracuse.com/state/index.ssf/2018/04/nxivm_keith_raniere_ny_cult_rape.html


sounds like (allegedly) laws were definitely broken...

I still wonder about one's personal pleasures and where society thinks it should remain private?

EVERY old girlfriend of ours who was completely consensual at the time, could jump up and start #metoo-ing

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“well, the leader will be going down for sure :)”

Allison Mack too...Wait, did you mean prison?

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PS: I'm not DEFENDING ANYONE in ANYWAY if any illegal things have taken place here. I was not there, I do not know, but am not defending criminals if that is what they turn out to be (I still beleive in INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty, not, hung via the internet)

Just curious about this case, the laws and whole shebang. (Pardon the pun)

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