Not her too?


Rebecca, darling how could you?

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Can't private schools admit whoever they want for whatever reason they want? Why does it matter if they bribe the school?

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Perhaps, but why did the Admissions Board have to fake SAT scores in order to admit these kids?

That's the part that pisses me off.

I wouldn't have a problem if they just honestly said "yeah, these kids are dumbasses, but their parents are rich and we want their cash", but they're trying to hoodwink the rest of us into thinking these brats got in through merit.

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...but they're trying to hoodwink the rest of us into thinking these brats got in through merit.


I agree. If they received the actual grades they earned, I'm OK, but I'm sure those parents would never tell anyone their kids were admitted because of a bit of backroom shenanigans.

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The whole Ivy League system is bullshit anyway.

Everyone knows that many rich kids already get in because they're Legacy Preferences, rather than via merit.

And as long as no-one is starry-eyed about so-called 'meritocracy' and the sacrosanct value of an Ivy League education, I don't have a big problem with it.

It's the pretence, and the bullshit self-belief these kids have, that bugs me. They were born on third base but they genuine think they've scored a home run.

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It's the pretence, and the bullshit self-belief these kids have, that bugs me. They were born on third base but they genuine think they've scored a home run.


Yeah, I suppose. I do see your point, and I've certainly run into my share of uber snobbery in my lifetime, but I always defer to what my dad used to say when I complained over stuff he didn't think was worth the concern: "you've got bigger fish to fry boy".

Off the topic, but I've always wondered if it's the education that makes the graduate or if it's the intelligence and quality of the incoming student that makes up the college's reputation.

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Off the topic, but I've always wondered if it's the education that makes the graduate or if it's the intelligence and quality of the incoming student that makes up the college's reputation.
Probably a bit of both.

I do gather that elite colleges and private schools, in addition to admitting a high proportion of rich, and often mediocre, kids, also recruit top students from relatively poorer backgrounds, in order to boost their grade averages, and to hopefully incentivise the less able kids, who are only there thanks to mommy and daddy, to study harder.

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My first take was that Lori's daughters must be pretty dumb for her to have to pony up 500k to get them admitted to USC(!!!) as crew team designates.

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They're rich white girls. They have no reason to be smart. Their futures are mapped out in front of them.

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Yeah, reading up on it I see the charges mention bribing the testing boards. That is dirty.

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Fuk a duck, unbelievable!!

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I don't get it either. Where is the federal crime here?

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It looks like it's because they didn't go directly to the university to buy admission for their kids. That's how Kushner got into Harvard with a 2.5 mil donation from his daddy.

Instead they went to an intermediary college prep org that was involved in obtaining bogus recommendations and fake SAT scores to get their dumb kids in. That's fraud.

Maybe they were trying to save some money by doing it on the cheap. Going direct would have cost them a boatload more than the amounts they were paying to this fraudulent organization. Bad idea.

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I think you may be right.

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She should be punished for this. Perhaps a good spanking should suffice.

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Are you volunteering?

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Might not be a bad idea.

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I (ahem) offer to watch to make sure it's done in accordance with tradition.

No charge.



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Back when I was a kid, my mother always said that there was always room at the table for another person whenever we brought friends home.

If a school *denied* admission of a better candidate to accommodate someone else, I have a problem.

But in larger schools, surely they can find room for a half dozen or so children of privilege if they kick money in. I don't have a problem with that as long as the kids are shown no further accommodation, such as sliding on grades. Allowing lesser performing students to pass dilutes the pool of graduating students.

Otherwise I don't see a big deal here.

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In some ways, this is a big deal.

We keep reading and hearing about how awful these sex scandals are, but sex predators can only do so much harm. Their abuse is heinous, of course, but the effects of their abuse is limited to a handful of victims (and before anyone attacks me for being callous, I have been on the receiving end of abuse - but let's leave it there since it's not something I want to discuss).

But this type of systemic gaming of the college admissions process affects us all. It strikes right at the fabric of society, favouring the very rich and maintaining the status-quo in order to keep social mobility at the stagnant/declining levels it has been in for the last forty years. It's stuff like this that keeps the poor poor and the rich rich.

But no-one is really outraged by this, the way they are when a Hollywood producer makes a casual lewd comment to some rich actress, or an actor talks about a stray racist thought he had over forty years ago. And do you know why? Because the rich and privileged people, the neolibs, who control society, the journalists, the actors, the politicians, and so on, have bugger all interest in doing anything that challenges unfair socioeconomic privilege. They'd much rather tinker around the edges focusing on the small stuff that bothers their buddies in the industry, or whining about why they 'only' get paid $20 million rather than the $22 million their co-star gets.

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Oh, it's an extremely very big deal, without question!!

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I am very shocked and needless to say, Ive never expected this of her before!!!

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It makes you say....

Whatever happened to predictability?

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Truly surprising from an actress with a reputation for being honest.

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I know, right!

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What will her punishment be for this?

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If convicted, she'll have to serve five years in prison.

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I wonder if this is going to get up to the level of our President's college admission.

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He wouldn't be the only POTUS with dodgy academic credentials. Pretty much all the recent ones going back to JFK (Johnson, Carter and Nixon excepted) are dunces, or not as smart as their public image might suggest.

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I firmly believe the rest of the leaders in government prefer a non-genius President, as that position can be used by them as a scapegoat for blame and obscure the true people responsible for certain government decisions.

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I'm inclined to agree.

But that wasn't really my point.

I'm generally more concerned about emotional intelligence (something that Trump comprehensively lacks, give or take his, admittedly dubious, claims regarding his IQ), empathy, understanding, humility and the ability to listen and weigh up various, and occasionally conflicting, pieces of information, when it comes to POTUS, than I am with respect to their SAT score or where they went to college.

All I'm saying is that a lot of the stuff many current and former leaders have told the general public about their intellectual and academic aptitude is utter baloney.

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