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What are your favorie KB docs?


He's done a lot of them, and they can't all be of equal quality.
Which ones do You like ?

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Regarding them not all being of equal quality, one thing I can say is that he is an amazingly consistent filmmaker.

As for my favorites, Prohibition was the very first KB film that I watched and I thought it was excellent. Since it was the gateway to Ken Burns for me, it will always hold a special place in my heart. It's a good mid-length film of his, not too short but also not too long.

Frank Lloyd Wright is a good one on the shorter end of the scale. I knew nothing about Wright other than that he was an architect and I learned that he had a very interesting, and in some ways tragic, life. If you have 2 1/2 hours to spare, that's a good way to spend it.

The Roosevelts is also very good and I would recommend it, though you have to be prepared to strap in and exhibit some patience, because it's fourteen hours long. I think it took me about two weeks to finish but I eventually got through it and found it to be a rewarding journey.

His 16-hour doc on country music starts in September. I'm looking forward to it.

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From what I know, he earned his teeth with the Civil War, and after that he did one about Major League Baseball and another about Jazz. I guess they would be my go-tos, but he's been busy for a long time, so I wanted to get some feeling for what his best work was.

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In terms of style, Ken Burns's films are all very similar. The main difference is that his films set in later time periods are able to take advantage of archive film footage, whereas his films set before the film era rely instead on photos. He doesn't really use reenactments.

Beyond that though, there are really three kinds of films for him in terms of length:

He has done several huge, epic projects that are more than 10 hours long. Some of them, like Baseball and Jazz, approach 20 hours. Then he has a few that are more in the mid-range, like Prohibition, that are around six hours. And then there are his shorter projects, like Thomas Jefferson and Defying the Nazis, that are three hours or less.

I also recommend Prohibition to people as a good starting point since it's manageable in terms of length, it's an interesting subject, and it's one of his more recent films and feels a little less dated than some of his earlier films do. It's also on Netflix right now as well. If you watch that one and don't get into it, then Ken Burns may just not be for you.

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The Civil War

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The Civil War
Baseball
Unforgivable Blackness

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Have you seen his doc's? Talking about they can't be of equal quality. You're a pathetic joke. Haha, feel better?

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Baseball
The Civil War
The Roosevelts
Prohibition
Jazz
(in that order)

By the way, did you hear the scathing review Jazz got on NPR's Fresh Air? As far as I know Burns never appeared on Fresh Air again after that, even though he had been a frequent guest previously.

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Not sure specifically about the NPR review, but I have heard that Jazz received more criticism than most of his films. I haven't seen it personally, but my brother loves it and credits it with turning him onto the musical genre.

In regard to the others you mentioned, I've only seen The Roosevelts and Prohibition. Both were great.

Last night I watched The Dust Bowl and it was really good, so if you like Ken's films, give it a look. I would also recommend Frank Lloyd Wright, National Parks and Empire of the Air, just off the top of my head.

Oh, and Country Music was excellent. A bit slow to get started, but it picks up after the first episode.

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The NPR review was by their jazz critic, so very insider. The could only see I think that their personal favorites were omitted from the show, but somehow could not see that it offered so much that those of us who don't know enough about jazz could learn.

What makes the Civil War good is that they found a lot of really poignant letters written by soldiers to their folks back home. Plus, the war was really complicated, but they tell the story in a way that makes it all easy to understand.

Baseball went through decade by decade and had a tremendous number of good stories.

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Regarding Jazz, that is consistent with what I have read from other sources. Basically, it seems the premiere complaint is that he leaves so much out that it feels far from comprehensive. Apparently the second half of the 20th century is particularly overlooked.

Perhaps he learned some lessons from Jazz on how to handle musical histories because it seems like his Country Music series has encountered far less controversy from the country establishment.

I was going to start The Civil War recently but found that it's not available for streaming any longer. That was a disappointment because it was on Netflix the last time I looked. I know that it also is controversial, but I suspect that a lot of the complaining is done by historians who have a particular view of things and who can't tolerate alternative opinions.

I think that Baseball is actually streaming directly on the PBS site right now. I may check that out next week.

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Yeah, strange. I just checked and only episodes 1, 5 and 9 of the Civil War appear to be available. Not sure how that makes sense.

Covering the most recent jazz history may be difficult because not enough time has passed to be sure how it will fit into context. That could be a reason for concentrating on the earlier eras. By the same token, reviewers are probably friends with the more recent jazz creators and feel even more outraged on their behalf.

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I dunno, he goes all the way to 1996 in his Country Music doc, but from what I read he barely touches on the developments in jazz after the 1960s.

As for The Civil War, I was thinking about just buying it on Blu-Ray, but holy shit it is almost a hundred dollars. I thought it would probably be around $40 or so.

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Wouldn't buy it. Everything comes back on PBS eventually.

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The fact that "Jazz" got a scathing review on leftist NPR indicates how bad it was. Burns admitted he knew nothing about the subject, and relied entirely on Wynton Marsalis, an angry racist who led him to believe white people had nothing to do with the musical form, other than to steal it from the poor black musicians. Such fake history is easily swallowed by the average clueless PBS audience member, but is, in reality, entirely full of shit.

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I watched The Dust Bowl last night and it was very good, up there with his best work. It may not sound like an interesting subject, but in Burns's hands, it is. Those people really went through some shit.

It's available on Prime right now.

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Currently following his series on Muhammad Ali.

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Good so far?

I still haven't seen that one.

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Didn't last long enough.

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1) "The Civil War" (hands down his best one, IMO...just a masterpiece)
2) "Baseball" (As a baseball fan, I liked this a lot, but I think it has some flaws, unlike "The Civil War"...but it's still a great watch, IMO)
3) "Country Music" (I'm re-watching this one now...again, I think it's flawed--he probably should have had 20 to 25 episodes of this, because you can't even begin to cover the history of country music with just 8--but, again, it's such a great watch).
4) "Vietnam" (again, some flaws, but I enjoyed watching it a lot)

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