Did you vote biden? Do you regret it or not?
Interested to see your responses.
shareYes. No.
shareFair enough. So you feel like biden is doing better than trump. Just curious to know what areas you think he's doing better at. Not arguing. Just having conversation. Interested in what people have to say and why they think certain ways.
share> Not arguing. Just having conversation.
I hear that all the time, and then Republicans start arguing, insulting, swearing and making up facts. If you are going to post this, then you should post your answers to the question.
So ... You don't have an answer for them?
You literally invented a scenario that isn't present as your defence...lol
It's not even close. Trump was a disaster.
share100% wrong. The media convinced you that he was a meanie on Twitter.
shareTrump did that all by himself. He's a moron.
shareI love paying over a $1.00 + more for gas, don't you? Demented Joe closing pipelines left and right. Like I said, another braindead lib, like a cult of zombies.
shareThat's very short sighted of you ... to think that gas prices is the only thing to judge a president on.
shareBiden flooding the borders, defunding police, tranny's in female sports, I can go on. Cancel culture too...leaving Americans in Afghanistan, looking like a senile fool.
shareSounds like Fox News talking points rather than actual knowledge.
I'm sorry, what's happening at the border? There are people who are from other countries who want the chance for a better life in this one? Oh the humanity!!!
No one is defunding the police. Some protesters may have suggested the idea, but it's not happening. It's important to understand the difference between something a few random people say on camera at a rally and something actually proposed by a legislator.
Cancel culture - another ridiculous concept that has nothing to do with the government. There was a female lead in a movie. Oh no, she's not a man! Must be cancel culture. Hey, that tv show has a gay couple. Oh no, cancel culture. It actually is ok for individuals to have opinions that are different from yours. Yours are based mostly on talking points you heard repeated and not on any actual facts. You might want to educate yourself.
Afghanistan? You might want to talk to your buddy Trump. He's the one who made a deal with the Taliban. Biden was just trying desperately to get as many people out of there as fast as possible. Not everything that doesn't go perfectly is the President's fault. Otherwise we'd have to blame all of 2020 on Trump, and you wouldn't want that!
Afghanistan Trump's fault? Wow. Imagine getting zinged by your own agitprop.
Some points of your post are indeed debatable but the border and Afghanistan are disasters that you cannot blame on those mean ol Republicans.
The disaster is not the border itself. The disaster is that there are too many people who, through no fault of their own, were born in very, very poor countries. The lives of people in Haiti is truly tragic. Who could blame them for wanted a chance at a better life? I don't blame border problems on "mean Republicans." I don't think they caused the natural disasters in Haiti. It is equally ridiculous to say that this is Biden's fault. He didn't cause the problems, either.
I didn't blame Afghanistan on Trump. I was just saying, he made a deal with the Taliban before he left office. Does that strike you as possibly not a good idea? First, that he made a deal for something that was to take place after he left office, and second, that he negotiated a deal with terrorists? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, no matter who's in office.
... and who could blame any country for controlling its border? No one blames Mexico for throwing illegals back on their southern border .... nor does anyone blame 99% of other countries for HAVING A FUCKING BORDER. Poor people everywhere. Not my problem. We decide how many come across and we decide who. They are not our citizens and we must do the right thing for OUR CITIZENS. Biden's open border policy is encouraging more to come and that has been the primary cause of the extreme conditions there. The recent shift of the narrative to include Haiti is damage control. They are at least realizing that something has to change. Trump had things slowed waaaay down. He made a deal w Mexico. Biden overturned that so surprise, it not only went back to how bad it was pre-Trump but it is so so much worse.
Trump threatened the Taliban. Warned them strongly that he would annihilate them if they fucked around. Told their leader his exact location ... they chilled. Biden switched to the fear & apology style, changed the date of withdrawal, did not evac civilians first, and fucked up big time. Then has the audacity to blame Trump even though he recalled every single other Trump plan before that. Pathetic.
"Poor people everywhere. Not my problem."
That pretty much sums up why we disagree.
We take care of the poor people in our own country not someone else's. We do plenty in the way of international aid. We owe it to our own population to be responsible.
I am certain that you do not give money to every hobo that you see. It cannot be your problem. There's too many. I give to one or two bums in my daily path. The rest can fuck off. Not my problem.
I don't agree that people from this country are more deserving that people from other countries. And I would never tell them to "fuck off."
shareI notice that no one ever says that Mexico should be taking care of their poor. It's always the United States that seems to be burdened with the task and is guilty for trying to control its border. We help people in need world wide. We send Mexico money every year. Lots of it. Yet it isn't enough. Same narrative is applied to "the rich need to pay their fair share!" The rich pay plenty but that drum beat gets voters. Likewise, the US does plenty but you can always rally voters by pointing to the endless supply of poor ... especially when you pretty much summoned them yourself to the spotlight.
shareTo whom much is given, much is expected.
shareYou gotta be kidding.
What's happening at the border? Watch the news.
No one is defunding the police? Are you for real? You are so uninformed but you spew your bullshit around.
Afghanistan? Again you are uninformed. Trump had a plan and his plan had conditions for the talibans. Biden had no plans.
I do watch the news. People are at the border because they want a chance at a better life. That's all I said.
Who is defunding the police?
Trump made a deal with the Taliban before he left office. Does that strike you as possibly not a good idea? First, that he made a deal for something that was to take place after he left office, and second, that he negotiated a deal with terrorists? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, no matter who's in office.
No, people are at the border because this administrations led the idea of open borders, easy entry and no deportations for illegal immigrants.
I'm in US because i want a chance at a better life. But I'm legally here. And no, wanting a chance at a better life doesn't entitle anyone to break the laws. Or illegally immigrate somewhere. You can have a chance at a better life in other parts of the world as well.
Who defunded the police:
Here examples:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/us/minneapolis-police-funding.html
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/defunding-portland-police-city-council-budget-15-million-cuts/283-239c5e3a-cfed-4dce-8775-d2c52a9df9aa
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/portland-proves-defunding-police-giant-mistake-180636
"Cassell estimate that “as a result of de-policing during June and July 2020, approximately 710 additional victims were murdered, and more than 2,800 victims were shot.”
It’s also noteworthy, given that efforts to defund the police were conducted in the name of saving black lives, that, according to Cassell, “more than 80% of the victims of the increase in homicide are minority victims.”"
Yes, Trump had a plan, Biden had none, that's the main and important difference.
And Trumps plan included contingencies: if the Talibans wouldn't comply with the rules the redraw wouldn't have happened.
Talibans, terrorists or not, are Afghanistan's citizens. US forces are not.
"I'm in US because i want a chance at a better life. But I'm legally here. And no, wanting a chance at a better life doesn't entitle anyone to break the laws. Or illegally immigrate somewhere. You can have a chance at a better life in other parts of the world as well."
Were you born in the US? Is that how you are here legally?
Nope, immigrant. Otherwise I wouldn't have said "i'm here legally" but "I was born here".
I went trough the whole immigration process and waited for years, paid all the fees, etc.
If that wouldn't had work I would have tried my chance for a better life in my country. Harder work but it's not impossible.
That is awesome! I mean that sincerely. I think it's really incredible that you knew what you wanted and you worked hard to get there. Good for you.
I was born here, and I do consider my self to be very fortunate. I didn't do anything to deserve it. I'm not better than someone who was born into poverty or born into poverty and born in a war torn country.
Some people simply have the unfortunate luck of being born into incredibly difficult situations, through no fault of their own. They deserve a chance to try for a better life.
One thing that's difficult for me to hear is the assumption that anyone approaching the US border from the South is automatically trying to skirt the system or has bad intentions or what have you. I can't imagine the road those individuals have traveled. I can't begin to imagine the hardships they have endured. I do not understand the hate. I do not understand why they are not just as deserving as every other foreigner who seeks a path to citizenship.
Why is there so much hatred? Why shouldn't they, also, be given a change?
Because we are not in a vacuum. We don't live in vacuum.
This country is great because people (including your parents/ancestors) worked hard to make it great. It's not that you were lucky to be born here. Your family made it so.
Why shouldn't they be given a chance? Why should that chance be give to someone that wants to get that chance illegally and by breaking the law???
You say that some other people should be given the chance at a better life. Would you be ok if a homeless would break into your house and sleep in your bedroom without your permission/invitation?? I don't think you would although he just wants "a chance at a better life".
Do you know how many billions of people would want that chance, to live in the USA? What do you think that would happen with USA if all those billions would be "given a chance"???
Do you know how long the Indians have to wait for their greencard? 20 years! And what conditions they have to fulfill to be able to get in the queue??
And you think that's it's fair for others to just jump the wall and nothing else???
That’s a lot of anger you have there. And I only said nice things to you. Sheesh!
I WAS lucky to be born here. I didn’t do anything to earn it. My ancestors might have, but I didn’t. People who were born into wealthy families didn’t do anything to earn that, either. Having an appreciation for things given, not earned, usually makes people more empathetic.
I was trying to be nice, but I think it’s absolutely insane that you think every single person who comes to US border is going to try to cross it illegally. It’s very selfish of you to think, “OK, I made it. Now no one else gets to.”
You are certainly filled with doom and gloom. Try having some compassion. Having compassion for others tends to create happiness in oneself.
"but I think it’s absolutely insane that you think every single person who comes to US border is going to try to cross it illegally." where did I say that?
Stop using strawmans.
"My ancestors might have, but I didn’t." yes and they did it so their kids can have a better chance. And that means YOU.
Just like you will help your kids to have a better chance in life.
You still dind't answer: would you be ok with a homeless breaking in your house "for a chance at a better life"? Would you be ok for someone to beat you up and steal your money "for a chance at a better life"?
I'm just exemplifying some other things that are illegal to do.
If you would really have compassion you would emigrate in their country and try to make it better, try to help them make it better.
You might want to look up the definition of "strawman," because that's all you have.
So full of fear and anger. Yoda said, "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."
"presidents" can't and don't do much, their job is to sit there and act like a respectable, caring, and moral figurehead to our system of government
shareSo why vote at all? If presidents don't do much why did you vote biden and not regret it?
sharebecause he doesn't act like an insane racist asshole like trump did
sharea racist who had black unemployment at record lows...keep buying the bull. Another brainwashed by the media.
shareThose same qualities apply to biden. But biden is worse. Trumps personality can put people off but look at biden lately. And also racism. Yeah bidens said plenty of racist things. Insane? Well trump still has his head together and is sharp. Biden struggles to complete sentences. You haven't convinced me of why biden is better when everything is worse. Is it because the TV told you to hate trump? Your friends told you to hate trump? Your family? Again I'm not a republican. I'm trying to see your point of view. So far I can't see why biden is the better president. You haven't given me anything.
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Is it because the TV told you to hate trump? Your friends told you to hate trump? Your family?
Nah. We have brains. Unlike you.
Really? Nixon sold our manufacturing out to the Communists. Reagan sold arms to our enemies who in turn used them against us. Little Bush allowed 9/11, started two fake wars that killed many Americans, wrecked the economy, allowed our infrastructure to decline considerably, violated the BOR like they were mere suggestions, increased debt so rapidly he had to hide about third of it outside the general acct, and wrecked the economy. Trump caused riots, colluded with enemies, wrecked the economy, record high deficits, mishandled a pandemic, and spent taxpayer money like a mad man.
shareThe 15% of what you said that is (((sorta))) true is spinning so fast; I'm sure your community college professor is so proud that she'd probably go out with you now.
Name something that the Democrats have tried to program you with that you DIDN'T believe right away, no question asked.