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china joe to be impeached on Jan 21.


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/534178-marjorie-taylor-greene-says-she-will-introduce-impeachment-articles-against

Shokin at the time was investigating the founder of Burisma Holdings, a natural gas giant in Ukraine, of which Biden’s son Hunter Biden had served as a member of the board since 2014.

The U.S. threatened to withhold roughly $1 billion in loan guarantees if Shokin was not replaced as prosecutor general, a message Joe Biden delivered to officials in Kyiv while serving as vice president and recounted during a 2018 Council on Foreign Relations conference.

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It's funny...had Twitter taken down his account he'd probably more than likely have been reelected. Which is why the Republican's lost the midterms in 2018.

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Good I’m glad at least one Republican has some integrity. They should then start prosecution proceedings and then Harris and Pelosi should be next

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I love this woman! Good for her. Just pull a Democrat. No need for any of that pesky evidence or witnesses! Just convict.

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yup, convict, no evidence needed...

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didn't republican senators vote for no witnesses in the first impeachment? just like they did now? you are actually blaming dems for something republicans did.

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There’s NO REASON to impeach President Trump much less a second time! He did nothing wrong. RINOs don’t speak for normal people.

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so not going to be an adult and admit you were wrong? You might actually get respect instead of doubling down on your lies.

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How am I wrong? Donald Trump DID NOT incite violence..... BLM and ANTIFA were the ones committing violence. It’s been proven....even if the left and RINOs don’t want to accept it.

Coming from a person who votes for people who won’t condemn BLM and ANTIFA, you have some balls pointing your finger.....

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"No need for any of that pesky evidence or witnesses"

going to be an adult or not?

also how could anyone know if trump did anything wrong if republicans refuse to allow evidence and witnesses?

I voted for democrats? I wasnt aware!

you keep digging this hole proving you cant be an adult and man about it

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Why bother?

You can't argue with crazy!

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I am slowly learning this place is full of crazy/ conspiracy theorist/ die hard partisans who cant even admit they are wrong on a small point.

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Why? You can't argue with them? If Donald Trump was on tape saying he wanted the execution of all American citizens by the Chinese government, they'd say...it was someone pretending to be him.

It's already widely available that Trump says (and admitted) he could shoot a human being dead in the street and they'd still vote for him.

Sounds like Satan!

So much for Jesus!!

Crazy...

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If Joe Biden was caught on tape saying he wanted the execution of all Americans by Chinese you’d say it was Donald Trumps fault , your cult is really getting pretty scary

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Not at all. I'd call it a act of treason. Hopefully he'd be gone in 24 hours.

It's already widely available that Trump says (and admitted) he could shoot a human being dead in the street and they'd still vote for him.

Satan 1
Jesus 0
KKK Qanon supporter -1

Can't argue with crazy!

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I'm calling BS on that considering pretty much every single Democrat incited violence last summer and now all of a sudden you are putting on this self righteous "violence is bad" phony act. Also don't even attempt to justify the BLM/Antifa riots, it was terror last summer and it was terror the other week, the only difference one incident is pretty much being condemned by everyone while the other one the Democrats have cowardly attempted to justify and excuse.

Barack Obama could have have started up Concentration Camps and you still would have voted for him.

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Can't argue with crazy. Read zero.

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I accept your concession. Also comical irony who literally called Trump, Satan. FYI you might want to get a grip on reality, Jesus and Satan are made up, they are about as real as Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

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You pray to Jesus every night you fucking idiot.

"Dear Jesus, please don't let Tom Hanks rape me, my wife or my 6 children all on child support. Thank you". --MovieChatUser497

And the government legally allows readily armed like this monkey ape face a gun.

lol...

What did you think was going to happen?

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LOL your flaming indicates that you have nothing intelligent to add to this discussion, wow that was easy, it only took me one or two posts to shut you down. Usually it takes some actual effort.

Also I'm atheist, little boy. Appealing to religion means nothing to me.

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Dear Jesus. I am a Qanon fighter! I believe in the white male. Even though I'd like to beat my wife...I have none after she left me.

I live in Tennessee. Yes, I have 7 kids maybe six. But Meth and Kid Rock fucked me up royal Jesus! SO did the 90's.

...

Also I ask to send President Trump and his grateful wife a ticket to my house and pray for a railroad so he can travel here. So I can show my guns.

Thanks,

MovieChatUser497

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Nurse ratched called, you’re due for your appointment for electroshock therapy

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Dear Jesus,

Why am I a joke? An outcast? What have I done to deserve this? Obviously, I've lost all creditability and I'm kinda stupid and live very, very poor in a small trailer.

Yes, I know I have yellow teeth and stockpile ammo because I'm a dumbshit.

Is this all because of Tom Hanks??

I wuv u,
MovieChatUser497

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Yeah you need to be in a straight jacket all the time. Also learn some new material libtard, I don’t believe in Jesus so I have no idea why you keep mentioning him

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Dear Jesus,

While I don't believe in you I only bother to capitalize your name. Forgive me. All I want in life as a 40-year-old bearded white man is my guns so I can go to heven. I mean, Heaven.

xoxoxo,
MovieChatUser497

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Lol you have gone completely off the rails little man, seek help . Just out of sheer curiosity please point to an example of me attempting to “capitalize” off of Jesus. I’ll wait.........

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Jesus,

Please help Rita Wilson. I own guns. I have two teeth. I am an American.

P.S -- when Rush dies can you light a candle.

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Got it you’re not just an idiot you’re a complete and total idiot

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Also Kate Capeshaw! And that Goddman child support!

Dear Jesus,

I grew up in the 90's. My beer belly gut wants to throw a football... I have two front teeth left but after spending my years replaying "Champagne Supernova" my eyes don't seem reconnect.

I'm hell bent on overthrowing the government cuz their all Satan folk.

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Who is Kate Capeshaw?

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"Dear Jesus! I Know I only make a few bits to a dollar per hour. But I beg of you to please let not Hanks and Spielberg rape me. Or my children. I know I'm white and I live in the south and live in a trailer park and have only 2 teeth remaining because I spent my 20's on meth and produced 6 children"...

"Dear Jesus, I ask you AGAIN to protect us from Satan and Mitch McConnell. Also, Justin Timberlake and Chief Justice Roberts!"

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"your cult is really getting pretty scary"

LMFAO

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It’s no laughing matter, you people are crazy . You wouldn’t laugh at Nazism would you?

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Says a member of the Trump cult who believes every conspiracy theory out there.

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I believe "every conspiracy theory out there"??? So I believe the moon landing was fake? I believe that 9/11 was an inside job? I believe that Russia hacked the 2016 election? Please provide proof that I believe those things.

Also to libtards a "cult" is just anyone who disagrees with them. You people really should be locked away in an institution.

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Well, you respond like and defend Democrats..... OH! I get it! The ONLY way to be correct is admit I am “wrong” about something because YOU disagree with me? To you and any fucking dumbascrap on this thread: People have different opinions in a democracy.... Now, I know between the censorship of differing opinions and stealing an election, you don’t understand that.... I don’t know what to tell you.

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no because you are objectively wrong. ill correct you for the 3rd time now

you said "Just pull a Democrat. No need for any of that pesky evidence or witnesses! Just convict."

the democrats didn't pull that at all. the republicans did. So still cant be an adult I see? maybe take out "man" from your name on here because you are clearly not one.

I can have the opinion that the sky is made of cheese. it doesnt make it true or that I should entertain you and baby you like a 5 year old and give you a participation award cause you have an opinion. Saying that its just your opinion when making ridiculous comments that are untrue is just a defence mechanism so you dont actually have to use your head and think logically and critically. good job!

again so ALL the trump judges are part of this conspiracy? And all those republican's unwilling to go along with trump and overturn votes? We are at 60 plus court cases and the trump campaign lost them all. What happened to that crazy drunk lady guilianna brought out? what happened to that lady on Laura Ingram's show who claimed to have seen Biden vans pull up to voting centres and opening envelopes?

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Another silly attempt at disenfranchising voters via impeachment. The idea of impeachment is to remove a president who does something harmful to the greater good of the country - like selling arms to an enemy and pocketing the money, not put the wrong toppings on pizza.

Every president has used the muscle of the oval office to influence or bully foreign countries.

Hopefully, the Dems will see the folly in all this and, if they have any soul left, will realize how petty, how silly, how vindictive, and how damaging partisan politics is.



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He colluded with a foreign power, he stole the election and he incited riots. He not only should be impeached he should be in jail. I have a feeling though the corrupt son of a bitch is going to have someone else take the fall.

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He DIDN'T steal the election. Don't believe the constant LIES that come out of Trump's mouth.

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There are documented incidents of voter fraud, a serious investigation needs to be launched in Biden’s affairs and he needs to be prosecuted. That would happen if we had a fair system that didn’t favor the Democrats

Don’t believe the lies CNN and MSDNC tell you

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There's nothing bad about Democrats at all, to be honest I prefer THEM to the scary Republicans. Every Democrat President so far I've loved.

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Nothing bad about them???? Hahahahahaha good one. Biden himself called the cops who put their lives on the line to protect congress racist because if the crowd had been black they all would have been shot, he has no basis to make that assertion and that is incredibly reckless and dangerous rhetoric. Both Harris and Pelosi sanctioned BLM and Antifa murdering people and burning buildings. I can go on if you’d like. Please tell me you’re trolling. Forget the republicans , I am just about done with them, they don’t stand for anything but if you think the Democrats give a good damn about you you are fooling yourself

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Yawn, don't care, here's $500 for you to turn a blind eye. That's my opinion on the whole thing. I don't care what the Democrats do, as long as they remain in power from now on.

I have spoken. (meaning, end of conversation, I will not reply again)

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Lol translation: leave me alone you big meanie. Well when they raise our taxes I expect you to cover the difference, I didn’t vote for higher taxes, I wanted everyone to have low taxes

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Newsflash, MCU497: I'm not American.

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Figures

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With dumb bleating sheep like Foebane blindly voting for Democrats no matter what they do, it's no wonder this country is such a mess. It's highly amusing that, on average, Democrats consider themselves more "educated" while they elevate censorship to a true American value.

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I can't vote, I'm not American.

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Kamala Harris will be happy to help!

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Will you be here to answer questions/ridicule on Jan 21st when he isn’t impeached?

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He won't be impeached. Not until 2023. When the GOP takes over the House.

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the dems are going to keep the house in 2022 & 2023.

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Not likely. They can cheat in a specific election but, as we just saw, the Dems didn't pick up a single seat in the House. They were able to target Georgia and win that and God knows how many legal votes were cast for the Dems. Two years of Biden and Harris. And maybe the most hated person of all in Pelosi? Red wave in two years.

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no, Blue wave in 2 years.

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It depends I think on how Mitch McConnell and the Republicans in the Senate behave. If Biden is able to get enough of them working with him, and stuff gets done, the ball may not move much. If there's the same effort to obstruct that went on during the Obama administration Republicans will get slammed in the 2022 midterms. The Democrats need to admit DC and Puerto Rico as states while they can, add four more seats to the Senate and break minority rule.

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No, it doesn't depend on that. Historical precedent indicates that the herd is generally disgruntled no matter who is in power. The perception that Democrats control everything now at the federal level will come back to hammer them hard in 2022. The only thing that could possibly save them would be one or two highly controversial SCOTUS rulings with a conservative bent, or propagandized as such by WAPO and the NY Times (their expertise these days).

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No, I'm telling you it all depends on what they're able to get done. People don't lash out at the existing power arrangement if they're happy with the things it delivers. If they promise a lot and accomplish very little that's a different story. Biden and his party need to get things done, things that make a difference in the average person's life.

The recent elections demonstrated that even with the anti-majoritarian Electoral College, gerrymandering, voter suppression, the whole toolkit of dirty tricks, appealing mostly to the right wing is no longer a winning strategy. Even in formerly deep red Georgia the GOP will have to run moderates if they want to have any hope of defeating the Democrats. Trumpians need not apply.

I don't think in many parts of the country, after two years of stability and competence that even many of the former Trump voters are going to want anything to do with moving back toward the insanity again. The Republican Party will be forced to reinvent itself one way or another. But too many of their 2022 candidates are going to be in the mold of Trump. If the Biden administration is getting things done, solving problems, not gridlocked, people will run screaming from the demagoguery. It may take several consecutive thumpings at the ballot box before the grip of the far right on the party atrophies.

But we'll see. A lot can happen in two years!

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of course, going to be just like dems for the past 4 years, biden is terrible and he has to go...

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Joe biden will never get impeached. he will be POSUS for 4 years.

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Of course he will be POSUS since he will never be the POTUS.

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Marjorie Taylor Greene is many things; bright isn't one of them.

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She will be laughed out of Congress!! (and rightly so)

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If only laughing could unseat some of these people

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As opposed to all those "bright" Democrats who, without any shred of healthy skepticism, completely fell for the Trump collusion with Russia garbage? I'd guess you're among that gullible crowd. The one time savior of the universe, Robert Mueller, sure seems to have completely slithered out of sight after his worthless report.

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Equating the mindless, preposterous QAnon conspiracy with the Russia probe--which Trump spurred by firing Comey under false pretenses--is not something I'd advise anyone to do if they want to be taken seriously.

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Complete rubbish. Most everything in the Russian collusion story was made up, particularly the aspects associated with Russians helping elect Trump with Trump knowing about it. It wasn't just events that developed organically which were later found to be created artificially by bad actors paid by the CIA. It was complete garbage that duped and *still* dupes most Democrats to this day. It's ridiculous to say this bogus theory advanced by the Clintons, Schiff, Pelosi, Schumer, and company is somehow more pure and of honest spirit than conspiracy theories advanced by QAnon. Those believing in the Russian collusion story are worse, actually, because that nonsense was subjected to an intense federal probe for almost two years. You're living in an irrational fantasyland pal.

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If you can't see the stark difference between the QAnon conspiracy and the Russia probe I can't help you.

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So, you are saying that: in his position as Vice President, A position that doesn't hold any power except for senate tie breaking, which Joe Biden didn't use during his tenure ever, that he abused his power as vice president.

That is really stupid. If it had been the secretary of state it would be a problem. But the vice president has no power and it's stupid that so many Trump people fall for this. Read the constitution.

Also this China Joe shit is just as stupid. Remember before Trump took office China was a country whose citizens would routinely jump off buildings after having been forced into low wage slavery to build cell phones for us. They had been a liberalizing communist country that we had been doing business with for almost 50 years. All Trump did was force them into more hardline communism, and the ruined relation resulted in a lapse in virus watchers over in China and that is why the Coronavirus spread. Had Trump not started all this trade war bullshit with China you wouldn't have to walk around with mask all the time. While Trump was talking shit about China he supplied weapons to wahhabist Saudi Arabia and told us how he and Kim Jong Un were in love while selling out to Russia.

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themightyperm wrote:
"They had been a liberalizing communist country that we had been doing business with for almost 50 years."

Oh sure. Never mind all the Chinese concentration camp "propaganda." You utterly naïve tool.

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Until Xi Jinping came in, China was on a path to more openness. It seemed likely they would eventually reach the point of blatant democratic reforms, although it might take decades to get there. Then Mr. Emperor for Life entered the scene and things took off in a completely different direction.

Vladimir Putin didn't seem so bad initially either. His appetite for power grew after he became President, and he succeeded where Donald Trump failed. He and his cronies turned Russia into an illiberal democracy - the window dressings, like regular elections, are all there, but it's a sham.

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"Until Xi Jinping came in, China was on a path to more openness."

So what? They are what they are today, and that's what matters most in the judgment China deserves at this present moment. Imagine this argument: "Sure, the majority of Germans went along with the Nazi party, eventually, but those Germans sympathetic to the KPD and other parties during the Weimar Republic sure tried their darnedest to keep Hitler out of power." You don't hear sympathetic arguments for WWII era Germans advanced too often, do you? I wonder why that is. Maybe it's because the Chinese are just inherently more deserving of sympathy for their crimes against fundamental human rights. Or is it because Trump was antagonistic toward China, and thus China really ain't so bad as the evidence indicates.

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My point is, Republicans talk about past interactions between Democratic politicians and China which took place before Emperor Xi's rise as if they were happening right now - conveniently forgetting that things were different then. Ditto with Russia before Putin, or during his first term when he wasn't doing anything obviously power mad. But then folks on the right live in a very plastic reality where no fact is set in stone. The only antidote to repeated adjustments of the truth is to keep correcting them.

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"My point is, Republicans talk about past interactions between Democratic politicians and China which took place before Emperor Xi's rise as if they were happening right now"

This is plainly a lie. The issue brought up repeatedly by Republicans centers on Joe Biden's role in peddling his influence to get businesses to which his son was tied interest-free forgivable loans (otherwise known as free money). This was the specific charge associated with China's apparent graft. This charge is not associated in any way at all with any specific Chinese leadership then or now. I suspect you know this and are just blowing disingenuous smoke, but who knows.

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Hunter and his uncle, Joe Biden's brother James, tried putting together a business with some Chinese partners but the deal ultimately fell through. Doing business in China is not a crime. Nor was Joe ever involved and his tax records back that up. If there was anything genuinely incriminating you can bet Trump's little lapdog Billy Barr would've been all over it.

Not that he'd have been wrong to do it, if there was legitimate cause. My problem with Republicans is the hypocrisy where they tolerate massive corruption on their side of the aisle but pursue with the tenacity of a rabid pit bull any hint of malfeasance among Democrats - to the point where they can spend years and multiple inquiries looking into allegations that ultimately prove unfounded. Although they'll never come out and admit they were wrong. Perish the thought! They just sorta close the case and innocently walk away whistling.

First of all, Hunter Biden was never running for President (or any other public office). Secondly, while he may have thrown around his dad's name in Ukraine there is no indication he ever enlisted his father's aid directly in getting onto that board. Certainly Joe Biden would've left that old prosecutor in place if he was trying to protect his son from prosecution. He was dirty - one of the things he did was look the other way, if his palm was properly greased. Why would you replace a guy like that with an ethical prosecutor you couldn't pay off, if the goal was to block an investigation of someone close to you?

Made up allegations, against the tsunami of corruption in the Trump administration that was no big deal. Right? Jimmy Carter had to sell his little fucking peanut farm before taking the Oval Office, to eliminate any possible conflict of interest. Meanwhile the whole Trump family (yes it's Nepotism R Us, folks!) was open for business in the White House. Donald Trump used his office every way he could to shovel money into his own pocket. US foreign policy decisions were being made based on what was good for Trump's financial interests. Either that or they had no rhyme or reason to them whatsoever, take your pick. It's just amazing how often decisions no one else agreed with just so happened to make money for Trump and his family!

Can you imagine the meltdown Republicans would have if Joe Biden was shooting off his mouth and revealing classified information provided by allies to the Russians, or the Chinese? My god. Tucker Carlson's hair would catch on fire. Senators would be demanding, not asking, that Kamala Harris invoke the 25th amendment and remove Uncle Joe, who was clearly not firing on all cylinders and needed to go. Trump does it though? Nothing but crickets.

Especially after the last four years I'm going to be ignoring the phony outrage whenever the GOP side complains about the conduct of a Democrat. Just like they care about deficits only when there's a D in the Oval Office, they only care about ethics and the rule of law when it's the other guys being held to those standards.



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The German's didn't have nukes. Not a lot we can do when we can't invade a country. If China didn't have nukes the US would have invaded it sometime in the late 1960s. The last time it was possible to invade China was 1964 when they detonated their first nuke. Vietnam was just a proxy war for a war with China.

Also, what can we do economically? We can't do a damn thing. There are more people in China than the USA, Russia, Europe, Japan, and Brazil combined. If we cut off trade with China then they're just a separate world. The most we can do is switch production to countries like India, Indonesia, and Vietnam. The other things we can do is just completely wipe the floor technologically in space, or protect Taiwan if they invade.

I don't like the Chinese communist party or what they're doing, but cutting them off from the western world will make things get much worse. China would become a giant North Korea. Before we opened up to them things sucked over there way worse. 100s of millions of people died because of Mau's stupid policies.

I'm 36. Only in the last 6-7 years has anyone given a crap about what goes on in China. A lot of their growth is directly tied to Hong Kong rejoining China and the implications that brought over the last 20 years. China has a problem with technology. There is going to be a tipping point where they won't be able to manage all of those people and they'll collapse. Cutting them off from our influence will only delay the inevitable. Our influence will turn them into a democratic country.

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