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Voter Fraud Red Flags


The late night spikes that were enough to close all the Trump leads are a red flag.

The statistically impossible breakdown of the ratios of these vote dumps is a red flag.

The ratios of these dumps being far better than the percentages in the bluest of blue cities, even though the historical data does not match, red flag.

The ratios of these vote dumps favoring Biden more in these few battlegrounds than the ratio for the rest of the country (even the bluest of the blue) red flag.

Biden outperforming Obama among these few urban vote dumps, even though Trump picked up points in every demographic group in the rest of the country, red flag.

The poll observers being removed. Red flag.

The counters cheering as GOP observers are removed, red flag.

The fact that the dem observers outnumber the GOP observers 3 to 1, red flag (and basis of the first lawsuit filed)

The electioneering at the polls (on video), red flag.

The willful violation of the court order requiring the separation of ballots by type, red flag.

USPS whistleblower reporting to the Inspector General that today they were ordered to backdate ballots to yesterday, red flag.

The video of 2 AM deliveries of what appear to be boxes of ballots with no chain of custody or other observers right before the late night miracle spikes, red flag.

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Biden did worse than Obama and Hillary in 46 states. Guess which 4 states he supposedly did better in...

Hint: rhymes with Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia.

#believable

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Those were the swing states, and magically enough votes were "mailed in" for Sleepy Joe.

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Hey! One would almost think you doubt the fellow who couldn't read a teleprompter and did most of his campaigning from his basement couldn't get more votes than even Obama!

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"Biden did worse than Obama and Hillary in 46 states. Guess which 4 states he supposedly did better in...

Hint: rhymes with Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia."

I live in Pennsylvania. Obama won PA in 2008 and 2012 by 10.3% and 5.4% respectively. Biden won by 1.2%, so you are full of BS.

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The JoeTatoe O'Bozo Regime does not care. They know the are locked in and surrounded by corruption. No consequence whatsoever. They are the Police.

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Biden is not facing 91 felony charges like your orange master is.🤣

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America becoming a Tyrannical State is way worse. Is this the America you fought for?

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america is facing extinction if the dementia patient hijacks another election...

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If the democrats had half a brain, they'd take a moment and chill because let's face it, Biden is going to win eventually. Then release a statement along the lines of "We are shocked at the allegations of voter fraud and would like to do everything we can to clear our reputation and get to the bottom of these claims". Then just sit back and let Trump potentially make a fool out of himself as he's throws around all these allegations and lawsuits. Hell, let trump look at every single ballot and envelope, every voting machine if he wants. Nothing to hide etc. If Trump takes the legal challenge route, he's not going to be able to do anything illegal to alter the outcome so just leave him to it. I gather dead people voting and dead people registering to vote and then voting is the norm in US elections but if it's happening on a large scale, it completely undermines the process and regardless of political party, they should want it to be brought into the light. Rightly or wrongly, there are clearly millions of people that think the democrats have stolen the election so just let the investigations roll on or people will never trust the elections again.

Unless of course there is a lot of questionable stuff going that they don't want people to find out about of course...The face there is all this secrecy about the ballot counting, possible throwing away of evidence etc doesn't exactly paint the democrats in a good light and certainly raises eyebrows imo.

The whole election process in the US is fucked really. So much weird stuff goes on from how ballots are counted, moved from buildings etc. There needs to be way more transparency really. Hopefully Trump could pull off some executive orders to fix that on his way out.

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suspect

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Agreed, the election needs to be investigated.

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Then why isn't the House with its Republican majority doing anything to investigate the alleged fraud in the 2020 election? I guess they are to busy going after drag queens or whatever is this week's outrage.

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Evidence that the 2020 Presidential Election Was Stolen

https://www.wordfoundations.com/evidence-that-the-2020-presidential-election-was-stolen/

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Word Foundations' website is all you got? Why can't you provide any proof of a rigged election in 2020 using reliable news sources? Why haven't the Republican controlled House started any investigations into the 2020 election? All you do is provide links to Twitter posts, blogs, dated articles and obscure websites to no avail.

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All the dems had was a fake Steele Dossier. Not sure what the difference is.

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by who? All forms of government have been corrupted by the democrats. They purposely put unqualified minorities in a position of power so that they "owe" their jobs to the people who used them when necessary, and like most minorities, they have zero integrity and will do anything to make money.

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All those red flags were found to be embellished or false. Trump lost man. Time to accept that.

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Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Arizona all changed voter laws days before the election, allowing votes postmarked after Nov 3 to be counted. Ironically Trump lost all these States by mail in ballots. There was video of dem workers in Georgia counting votes after hours. Democrat courts threw out challenges made by Trump. Biden claimed he would lose by chicanery and Hillary told him not to concede the election. Dems are now saying this was the most fair and honest election in the past 230 years. This election should be investigated just like the 2016 election was investigated.

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It was changed in PA several months before the election. The SCOTUS ruled right before the election that the votes coming in after Nov 3 should be held aside pending a full hearing by the court. The court then overturned the rule AFTER THE ELECTION. And those votes were NEVER included in any vote totals. Biden won without them.

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still a huge red flag, which should be federally investigated.

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What should be investigated?

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the 2020 election.

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What about it should be investigated?

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chicanery and Ukrainian collusion.

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You are a joke.

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you asked, how come the 2016 election was investigated but not the 2020 election? how do you know Trump didnt collude with Russia again?

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In 2016, there was something to investigate: Russian interference. And it led right up Trump's ass.

The investigation didn't challenge vote counts or vote counting methods. They didn't really investigate the election at all. You morons keep saying they did but that's because you are morons.

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how did they know there was Russian interference before investigating?

Mueller’s probe focused on Russian attempts to disrupt the 2016 election; possible coordination between associates of Trump and Russia; and whether financial crimes were committed by any of the president’s associates.

how did Russia hijack the election then? remember when Nancy said that Russia hijacked the election and had cold hard evidence that Trump colluded?

It dominated headlines for two years, but in March 2019, special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election came to an end. The investigation, which President Donald Trump continually called a “witch hunt,” found no evidence that Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia.

Here are the facts:

Trump wasnt president in 2016
Obama was president in 2016
Obama mocked Trump for suggesting elections can be hacked.
Nancy and Hillary said Trump stole the election
Mueller found no collusion
Information-Police said there was no voter fraud or voter machine fraud.

So Trump won fair and square, even though Trump was falsely accused of stealing an election.

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Trump won the election. There was no interference with vote casting or counting. Nobody has claimed otherwise.

Trump's campaign received significant help from Russia, in the form of the operation of troll farms and information passed to the Trump Campaign. That is fact, as determined by the Mueller probe. Mueller investigated because US intelligence had tips that it was going on. People in Trump's campaign were charged and went to jail for their involvement with Russia while not registering as agents of Russia. That has all been determined in court and never contested.

You will have to ask Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton what they meant by saying that the election was hacked and stolen. I"m pretty sure they were referring to the things above.

Mueller could not prove that Trump's campaign actively solicited help from Russia because Trump interfered with the investigation. Ten instances of obstruction of justice were laid out in the Mueller report. READ IT.

Mueller did not say Trump should be charged with crimes because, as he stated, it was not his position to do that. He was going by a DOJ memo saying a President could not be indicted. He said that it was up to Congress to take his investigation and charge the President with articles of impeachment. Congress did not do this.

If you want to refute any of this, go ahead. If you repeat your same bullshit, I'm putting you on ignore. I suspect you will do that, in which case, you won't hear from me again. Have a good life.

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If there was no interference with votes or counting then all the accusations that Trump stole the election were false. Again, Trump was falsely accused of stealing an election. This is the whole crux of my point. Trump was falsely accused.

The claim was by Nancy is that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election. Mueller proved Trump did not collude with Russia.

If Russia didn't interfere in the votes then how did Russia help Trump win the election? This is the whole crux of my point. Putting fake ads on Twitter and Facebook is not stealing an election.

Again, this is the crux of my point that you are not getting. After Trump won he was accused by a plethora of high ranking democrats that he stole the election by colluding with Russia.

Obstruction is not stealing an election. You just said this: There was no interference with vote casting or counting.

The only way to steal an election is through voter and election fraud. This is what you said.

It doesn't matter if Trump obstructed or if people talked to Russia. Talking to Russians is not stealing an election.

There was no interference with vote casting or counting.

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Wrong. They were never vetted or investigated. Ignoring red flags is not the same as clearing doubt. Thats like saying that a woman who says she was raped wasn't, simply because you never bothered checking out her story.

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The election was never investigated.

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Why not? The Republicans control the house so why haven't they started an investigation into the 2020 election? If voter fraud was rampant as you believe then why aren't the Republicans investigating it? You sound more desperate as each day passes.

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At least the 2016 election was investigated and it confirmed that Trump won fair and square.

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When was the 2016 election investigated?

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In 2017. Are you really going to play dumb on this?

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That was a long time and many investigations ago. Could you remind me.

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It was in 2017.

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So, you have no information on what investigation you referred to other than the year?

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Mueller Report.

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Mueller did not investigate voter fraud, genius. He did investigate whether Russia interfered in the election (yes, they did) and whether the Trump campaign worked with them. He found that they enthusiastically accepted help from Russia. He could not conclude whether they collaborated with Russia because Trump obstructed the investigation. He laid out 10 instances of criminal interference by Trump.

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I know, I never said he did.

[–] Bubbathegut (14637) 2 months ago
At least the 2016 election was investigated and it confirmed that Trump won fair and square.

Why did Obama let Russia interfere in the election?

President Obama mocked Donald Trump's suggestion that the November election could be "rigged" Thursday.

"Of course the elections will not be rigged. What does that mean?" Obama asked when he was questioned about Trump's comments at a press conference Thursday.

"I've never heard of somebody complaining about being cheated before the game was over or before the score is even tallied," the president said.

Obama said elections CANNOT be rigged.

The Durham Report states that all the information in the steele dossier was fake.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/durhamreport.pdf

Here is a video of multiple mainstream news sources saying that Trump stole the election.

https://youtu.be/uoMfIkz7v6s

“He knows he’s an illegitimate president,” said Clinton, also three years later. She repeated this sentiment in 2020, telling The Atlantic the election “was not on the level,” and again when she called Trump’s win illegitimate. She piled on to this by saying, “You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you,” clearly referring to how she saw her 2016 campaign.

Special counsel Robert Mueller found no evidence President Donald Trump’s campaign “conspired or coordinated” with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential election.

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Gish gallop. This thread is about voter fraud.

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What about voter fraud?

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What about election fraud?

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The MSM suppressing all this, as well as the social media companies, is also a red flag. They are terrified that Trump might find a way to foil their evil plans and ruin Biden's bid for the White House.

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Or they're simply not going to let wild conspiracy theories with no facts to support them be allowed to rot the minds of so many people who are clearly already so disconnected from reality.

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The establishment cheated and it will be proven

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You mean like people who believe everything Democraps and the lying lamestream media tell them?

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If they're so wild, what's to hide? Whoops.

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The establishment cheated

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Agreed, just another stolen election. No big deal.

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Yup. Cheaters gonna cheat.

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All bullshit claims, but constantly flooded as "truth" on social media by dolts like you who worship trump and don't care about democracy. You sycophantic tool bags deserve to be angry and alone. I have no sympathy for you whatsoever, and NO I'm not a "tolerant liberal" as I can poke fun at obese lesbians and transgendered black lady boiz just as much as a right wing QAnon-sucking moran like you.

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If you live in a little population 900 town in backwoods Alabama I can understand why it may not seem possible that Trump didn't win in a huge landslide. But travel the country, sample the mood a bit. You'd see there are more than enough Americans who hate the Big Orange Buffoon. The numbers are there to explain the election results. No need to invoke imaginary fraud. You just gotta get out of your bubble, the Fox Cinematic Universe doesn't accurately represent the one we live in. Sorry to piss in your Corn Flakes but ...

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So the ones who live outside the MSM media echo chamber are the ones living in the bubble? How completely Moronic of you.

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Huh?

Whatever the hell that meant I do notice the typical right wing tactic of attacking the speaker instead of addressing the specifics of what they said. Boring and predictable. Bring some meat to the table or don't bother showing up for dinner. Substance, not insults.

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Truckers have travelled the country and estimate that Trump signs outnumber Biden sides 25 to 1. In my own neck of the woods you couldn't walk the neighborhood on Election year without tripping over all the signs for the Democrat nominee which the past two cycles have been replaced by Trump signs. The specifics of what you said are completely wrong but you can't see that because you live in the echo chamber or "the Bubble" as it were.

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the Trucker Factor... very scientific.

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You are the one saying to travel the country and the people who are literally paid to travel the country have told us what they seen but now that isn't scientific enough for you.

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It never was scientific, it's anecdotal, and has nothing to do with whether more people voted against Trump or not.

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That was me who said that. I know, it's confusing, two users named chris.

And you'll pardon me if I don't take your word about what someone else supposedly told you. Useful tip: when concocting BS figures, try to make them sound plausible. 2 to 1 sounds like it's within the realm of reason. 25 to 1 is unrealistic and sticks out like a sore thumb, obvious fabrication.

I told you to travel the country and take the temperature. If you come from a place where Donald Trump is wildly popular that's not representative of most of America. Biden wouldn't have won if it was.

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You mean like when you are doing Ballot Dumps that go 100% to one guy without even one third party vote in multiple swing counties? Those kind of concocted BS figures that stick out like a sore thumb?

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What are you talking about? There were no batches of ballots that went 100% to any candidate. We knew the election day returns would be heavily Republican since the Big Orange Dipshit spent months attacking mail-in balloting. So the mail-ins favored Democrats. We knew quite a bit in advance many states would start off in Trump's corner and then his "lead" would evaporate in dribs and drabs - which is exactly what happened.

You do understand that all the votes were cast by the end of election day. Right? No voting was happening in real time after that. The final count was already in, we just didn't know what it was yet. There were batches of mail-ins in certain counties where Biden got in the 80's in terms of percentage. But when you factored in election day and early in-person he wasn't generally left with numbers that high.

All these idiots who talk about voting fraud have no clue how the system works or how difficult it is to cheat. Every mail-in ballot had a tracking number. Only registered voters could receive them, at the addresses where they registered. If anyone didn't get theirs and a new one had to be sent out the old tracking number became invalid, so even if someone else returned it the extraneous vote wouldn't count. Trump and his acolytes made it sound as though these things were just sitting in baskets with a little sign that said "Please Take One". Any random shmuck could grab a stack and fill them out. Doesn't work that way.

Nor were they sitting around in election offices unguarded for people who work there to screw with after hours. The foolish stories I've seen online sound like they were cooked up by someone who's watched too many movies. Vans parked outside buildings in the dead of night, loading (or unloading) boxes full of ballots. Give me a break.

I don't get why people are so desperate to support Donald Trump that they're willing to believe in wild conspiracy theories for which there isn't a shred of evidence. He's the local drunk who sits in the bar and will tell anyone willing to listen what he'd do if he was in charge. Except unfortunately for us he did wind up in charge. I could understand if the Talking Tangerine had done anything for anyone but himself. He hasn't though. In fact his most fervent supporters tend to be the ones most hurt by his actions in office. I have never seen so much mindless devotion shown to probably the least deserving man on the planet. Boggles the mind.

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Thats a pretty long essay to simply say i can't do basic math

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I believe in comprehensive debunking. 🙂

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translation:
orange man bad

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25 to 1. Yeah, okay. That's like when Putin or Lukashenko win 90% of the vote - numbers you only get when the books are cooked. You could save the world single handedly and not have that many voters behind you. Trump has crazy fanatical supporters but they're simply not the majority of Americans. What do you think it means that he lost the election while many down ballot Republicans won? Who do you imagine cast those ballots? Registered Republicans who can't stand Trump, that's who.

Donald Trump is a miserable failure as a leader. That's why he got his ass kicked. I don't know what alternate dimension you're in where everyone loves the Lord High Orangutan but I travel frequently for business, or at least I did before the current mess, and will again when it's over. There are very few places where Donald Trump is overwhelmingly popular. Hence the vote totals.

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All of the Biden supporters I know, and he crushed trump in my state, donated money to his campaign rather then spend money on signs and flags. Signs and flags don’t win elections....votes do. Ouch huh?

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Bigger bank roll pays for more signs

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And i aint in no 900 Backwoods Alabama Town son. I'm in Wayne County not ten minutes from Detroit.

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yeah man. They really came out to show support for Biden with mail-ins but refused to show up at any of his sad pathetic rallies. Makes total sense.

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