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Gay rapists are less condemned by society?

posted 5 years ago by Heisenberg (6286)
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It seems to me that in general, if you have to be a rapist, being a gay rapist is the way to go. It's as if society doesn't care much about men being the subject of violence, as long as they are over 18.
I'm not saying they get a free pass or that it's condoned, but that between a straight rapist and a gay one, the general public prefers to talk and to punish the straight one, while the gay one is seen as something they'd rather not talk about.
If this guy gets away with the investigation like his fellow Kevin Spacey, which could be innocent for what I know, their story will be placed in the "don't ask, don't tell" category of topics we'd rather stay away from.
Compare that to all the unforgivable straight cases of metoo (like, for instance, Louie CK....)

[–] BigWorm (683) 5 years ago

No, people talk about gay rapists all the time. Usually as the punch line to prison jokes. We sure are comfortable making light of the epidemic of brutal rapes inside the prison system. It usually comes with nice side of racism, in that it will be a “big black man” called bubba, doing the raping.

[–] Heisenberg (6286) 5 years ago

Yes, it's just seen as something for criminal punishment. Not as a crime itself, not as something that happens in the real world, not as something that we should prevent and fight.

So, like you are saying, it is totally less condemned by society than straight rape.

[–] legnadibrom (5697) 2 years ago

how's Bubba doing these days?

[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

It's not about being gay. If Singer was a heterosexual woman supposedly raping a man, the same thing would happen. As long it's not about a woman accusing a man, everything is OK.

Actually, there has been quite a few cases where gay people have been sentenced for raping a woman. And they can argue that there's zero evidence, and they're gay and just don't feel attracted to women and they can prove they had relationships with male partners for years, they're sentenced nonetheless... as long as it's a woman who accuses.

[–] Heisenberg (6286) 5 years ago

That's interesting, I had no knowledge of such cases. But even so, they would be debunked from their "gay rapist" category to a straight rapist one, since it's man on woman rape.

But I see your point, that rape gets some attention only when the victim is a woman or a minor.
I'm not a sjw, but wouldn't it be fair that men gets protected by rape too?

[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

That's impossible. Men are genetically programmed to protect women. It's an instinct, like protecting kids.

And that's one big problem with SJWs: they can't accept their behavior is in a big part biologically-driven, so they have to rationalize some moral stuff to justify it. It goes to the point to SJWs running to defend any damsel in distress right not to be defended, they don't even realize the contradiction.

[–] BigWorm (683) 5 years ago

"men are genetically programmed to protect women"

He said without irony on the topic of men raping women lol.

[–] acidraindrop (3055) 2 years ago

I have to agree with Kuks here for once.

Op's take is voluntarily naive.

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

Ghislaine Maxwell who was just convicted for sex trafficking raped teenage girls alongside Epstein (one girl alleges Maxwell raped her 20 times) and she wasn't even charged with it. It's not a big deal if a woman does it to a woman, it's not a big deal if a man does it to a man. Its only big deal if it's a man doing it to a woman.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Gay men are seen as cute, harmless and cuddly, so they always get a free pass when they misbehave. I worked with gay men in retail, and they got away with shit that nobody else could. Women of all ethnicities would be written off as raving bitches, black people as Affirmative Action hires and straight white males as exercising privileged if they screamed at, humiliated, gaslit or threatened underlings. But gay males are able to emotionally and mentally abuse people freely in the workplace and get away with it. Again, it's because they're seen as "cute" and completely devoid of hate, evil or malice when some of them can be just as cruel and sociopathic as any other demographic.

[–] Heisenberg (6286) 4 years ago

I'm not sure that's entirely accurate, I heard of some discrimination against gay men, haven't you?
But I also believe your personal experience, as I'm sure there's lots of idiots that are afraid to intervene against a gay man in fear of being labelled as homophobic, so they just take it to the other extreme and let them misbehave.

Anyway, I'm talking about rapist, and if some leeway could be understood in the aforementioned cases, when it's a felony there should be no special category.

[–] vegan_voorhees (383) 4 years ago

Yeah, bit of a leap from Sassy Scott on the checkout counter to an actual sexual predator, but if you're still sore about that time he told you your hair looked shit then continue to froth about it, I guess.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Of course there's been discrimination against gay men, but not in the way of other groups, where they were blocked from working or housing or attaining political office. Discrimination came in the form of harassment from law enforcement, which used to routinely raid their venues or arrest them pre-Stonewall.

As for fear of intervening, I'm 100% sure that people weren't afraid to intervene out of fear of homophobia. People, based on conversations I've overheard or have had with people, romanticize gay men as just being "like women" or "better versions of men." So, when they act out, people aren't as threatened or offended by their behavior.

This is why gay rape isn't as condemned as straight rape. A man raping another man is seen as not as bad as when a straight man rapes a woman. When people imagine a straight man raping a woman, they imagine a big, burly brute punching a small woman in the face, shoving her down, screaming insults and brutally tearing into her vagina. When people imagine a gay man raping a man, they imagine a cute, effeminate male just quietly "slipping" his dick into another guy without the victim really knowing. They don't imagine a big, burly brute also punching a guy, abusing him, shoving him down and tearing into his anus.

[–] Fandango (534) 4 years ago

If we were to simplify it, I think it's a matter of agency. Women, by virtue of being weaker and less domineering than men, are seen as lacking agency, so any ill that comes upon them isn't seen as their fault, as they have little to no power in controlling a given situation. Men, by contrast, are said to have agency, and so if they're raped, it means they just didn't use it to defend themselves.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

It's very true that part of the problem is society thinking that a guy who wasn't strong enough to fight off a rape isn't really a "victim," so doesn't have it as bad as a woman, who is weaker and also has to deal with the horrors of a possible pregnancy. Making matters worse is that the most we've ever heard of gay rape comes from prison, so people are thinking that any guy that got assaulted was probably a murderer or thug who deserved it (or maybe just a bad human being getting his comeuppance).

But I think it's a combination of that and this stereotype that gay men can't be evil, cruel, dangerous, etc. There is this persistent idea that they're all sugary sweet, effeminate twinks when they can be macho, physically strong and aggressive like straight guys.

[–] Fandango (534) 4 years ago

Interesting point. I think this stereotype falls in line with just how big the perceived gay population is. I believe there was a study done where participants were asked how many gay people they believe are out in the population, and they said somewhere close to ~50%. In reality, I believe it's less than 5%.

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

Exactly, more gay privilege. Forget the fact gay men are the only group of people who get to have sex anytime they want to and forget the fact 25% of gay men admitted to molesting children.

[–] Heisenberg (6286) 2 years ago

I don't believe that statistics.
But in some cases it seems like there is a gay privilege.

[–] cyberbob (3488) 2 years ago

You'd be surprised how few people challenge this fucking idiot's statistics. Good for you

He rarely posts links to his sources, but when he does it's a whole different type of amusement on its own

[–] Heisenberg (6286) 2 years ago

Yeah, he seems to have an agenda of disinformation against some groups.

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

I'm not making it up. I clearly remember this poll.

[–] cyberbob (3488) 2 years ago

He absolutely does. 25%, though, is either a sign of desperation (he feels the need to exaggerate greatly for whatever reason) or of stupidity

I mean, that's 1/4 of gay people lol. I know more than 4 gay people. If he's insisting that 1 out of 4 of them would ADMIT, not just COMMIT molestation, but openly ADMIT to committing molestation, I dunno what to say. It seems lazy tbh. Or naive or childish

I just don't get it

[–] OvertonPendulum (4026) 2 years ago

Call me an idiot all you want, fact is gay men are almost certainly more likely to molest children than straight men. It's even evident from the gender of victims.

[–] cyberbob (3488) 2 years ago

You love to run your mouth, but you're fairly reluctant to post sources for your claims. You said 25% of gay guys molest boys, which sounds like an exaggeration. However, if you have valid sources I won't argue against them

You're generally reluctant to provide sources for your claims. All I ask is that you provide links to some of your more concrete statements. But you tend to ignore me a lot

[–] BillySlater (4096) a year ago

Its actually true. There was a study done in the UK about it, I remember mentioning and linking it here, and having the woke brigade call me a homophobe because it wasn´t PC to say that. I think his 25% stat is wrong misused though.

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[–] alexjohans0n (2094) 2 years ago

Being Jewish helps. Give it a few years and he will be back directing movies.

[–] Heisenberg (6286) 2 years ago

Is it also a shield against criminal charges?

[–] alexjohans0n (2094) 2 years ago

Sometimes !

[–] BOandBarbecue (2264) a year ago

yes this is true. the gay man get free pass in your west societys because there world of debauchery and decays is excused as "flamboyants" and your west media cover up their crime. they are free to rape, and adopt kid and destroy their mind, and your media dont cares!!!

fags like brian singers and kevin space all bum poor male victim against there will and get away with it. they all have butt pirate privilege. butt pirate roberts!!!